Republicans will go after Obama's College Records:

Reply to post by Blackmarketeer

I hope Obama does not release his transcripts. He should not be entertaining this kind of behavior at all. I mean he started off his presidency pretty firm and he keeps caving to earn respect and these people are determined to destroy his credibility with baseless claims. If I was him, I would just ignore the conversation all together.


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Obama has admitted that he only paid off his student loans a few years before becoming President, likely as his book sales took off and he had decent money coming in.

If he was helped out so much with his Hardvard education, why did it take so long to pay off huge loans for him and Michelle.

No other candidate is being asked to produce records from college and school, but many of them are releasing them, in order to avoid silliness of this type.

The guy in the OP admits that he was at Harvard at the same time as Obama. There are thousands of students at Harvard, and I'd be interested to know how he knows that Obama never went to class, how he remembers Obama specifically out of all the other students.

"a gut feeling" isn't enough to go on for journalism, and shouldn't be enough to go on for ATS.

Reply to post by Wrabbit2000

Romney's tax returns are totally different from Obama's transcripts with reguards to how they would affect each candidate. Romney is making himself out to be a guy who is not for corporate greed, is for the average American, and believes everyone should pay their fair share in taxes. Being that he is rich a lot of Americans are unsure as to his sincerity. Therefore releasing his tax records would be relevant to his run for the white house. What relevance would Obama's transcripts have?


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How can Root now claim to be a former roommate of Obama when in a earlier interview he claimed to have never met or saw Obama?

He never claimed to be a former roommate. Just a former classmate in the class of '83. He also cited a WSJ article detailing how 400 of his former classmates did not know Obama.

Voters and the media are now exercising due diligence before Election Day, and they are meeting resistance from Mr. Obama in checking his past. Earlier this year, the AP tracked down Mr. Obama's New York-era roommate, "Sadik," in Seattle after the campaign refused to reveal his name. Sohale Siddiqi, his real name, confirmed Mr. Obama's account that he turned serious in New York and "stopped getting high." "We were both very lost," Mr. Siddiqi said. "We were both alienated, although he might not put it that way. He arrived disheveled and without a place to stay." For some reason the Obama camp wanted this to stay out of public view.

What can be said with some certainty is that Mr. Obama lived off campus while at Columbia in 1981-83 and made few friends. Fox News contacted some 400 of his classmates and found no one who remembered him. He had transferred from Occidental College in California after his sophomore year because, he told the Boston Globe in 1990, "I was concerned with urban issues and I wanted to be around more black folks in big cities." He got a degree in political science without honors. "For about two years there, I was just painfully alone and really not focused on anything, except maybe thinking a lot," he told his biographer David Mendell.

online.wsj.com...

Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to schools, did he ever change his citizenship back? I’m betting not.

We know that Obama used the name Barry Soetoro. That suggests that he was adopted while in Indonesia. No records on that either. No name change records of when he began to use the name Obama again as well.

Pretty simple solution to Obama's mystery. Same can be said for Romney's apparent tax mystery. Make them both cough up. Fair is fair. Right? Someone needs to get tough and do the job that was not done in 2008 and Obama needs to speak for himself directly and not through Jay Carney.

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I don't think people are questioning his attendance at Columbia either. Just his circumstances. Obama himself said he was broke when he arrived in NYC and his former roommate attested to that. Did Obama enroll in as a Foreign student?? I think that is the most important question of all. I could go on and on about his Harvard years and alleged student loans that Obama never declared either while a Senator. He and his wife claimed to have just paid them off shortly before the last election. Occidental, Columbia and Harvard x 2. That's a lot of tuition debt.

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Just a quick point on this, as it's relevant and to topic as we're discussing it.

Mitt Romney's odyssey of the Tax Returns started by Harry Reid claiming "someone" "somewhere" from Mitt's past with Bain Capital 'reported' he hadn't been paying his taxes. Harry didn't just make comments about this in a News Conference. The man doesn't have the self control to leave it there.

Harry Reid outright and with NO question in the statement, declared Romney hadn't been paying all his taxes. MSM has been replaying that clip of him stating this on the Floor of the U.S. Senate for awhile.

I think this went beyond any sense of politics and gamesmanship when the President of the United States Senate officially called out a U.S. Presidential Candidate for what COULD involve criminal and even felony misconduct. Proof ...or pay for the wild accusation.


I want to see Mitt produce those Tax Returns at this point for another reason... IF they show nothing like Harry accused, from his office and position as a U.S. Government leader, then I want that sorry piece of work to be hounded to resignation. It SHOULD cost Romney his future if this is all true...and he's THEN gone on to play games about hiding it.

However... Scary Harry should be FORMER Senator Reid if he stepped in it as deep as he MAY have here..and based on a fantasy story he made up out of thin friggen air. (some may recall..Reid made up other people from thin air too...in 08 and for the Health Care debate. He's got a wild imagination as his record shows. Only when it's politically valuable tho.)

They have NO business asking for so much as a DINNER tab out of Romney, if it is not WELL established as standard for Presidents going back to Nixon..and this IS NOT, by the way. If one has to cough up..Both should.

Now I'm off to a parent/teacher conference.. Should be fun. One political hotbed into another.

Just suppose this 'tax record' business is a red herring? A distraction from the real skeletons in Romney's closet. Something was going on during his time as a senator, and he's hiding that.

Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Romney's tax returns are totally different from Obama's transcripts with reguards to how they would affect each candidate. Romney is making himself out to be a guy who is not for corporate greed, is for the average American, and believes everyone should pay their fair share in taxes. Being that he is rich a lot of Americans are unsure as to his sincerity. Therefore releasing his tax records would be relevant to his run for the white house. What relevance would Obama's transcripts have?

 

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Romney is making himself out to be a guy who knows how to succeed in business and make money. LOTS OF MONEY. Good.... Our Country NEEDS that whether it's him, trump or someone we've never heard of.

Now if Romney is making himself out as a guy who isn't for corporate greed, Obama has made himself out to be a Constitutional Scholar with such superior intellect, even the Supreme Court is subject to his tirades and rants about their professional incompetence.

Well.... Indeed.. We have two men making themselves out to be things their actions don't entirely support. BOTH issues absolutely effect the future and health of our nation as these men are each capable of governing and in good judgement.

Both need to cough up what is asked for ...and these silly little child games of the last 4 years of 'you can see this..but not that..and only this way, or this place...and only when we say' HAVE to stop. Now they picked the fight they've been fighting themselves, with Romney. Enough.. BOTH...Cough 'em up or quit the field and get Ron Paul there.

At least *HE* hasn't hidden ANYTHING.

Originally posted by XeroOne
So, what paperwork related to Mitt Romney's senatorship was worth shredding? Both sides have skeletons in their closet. They're both in a glass house here.

Yes, but one is the president and one is not. For Obama to proclaim being "transparent", he is certainly not!

Originally posted by Gridrebel

Originally posted by XeroOne
So, what paperwork related to Mitt Romney's senatorship was worth shredding? Both sides have skeletons in their closet. They're both in a glass house here.

Yes, but one is the president and one is not. For Obama to proclaim being "transparent", he is certainly not!

Both want to be president, and Senator Shreddy must prove he's suitable for that position. Touche.

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Whoa lets back up here, lol. Being a successful businessman in no way gives someone more credibility in fixing economic problems. Running a country's economy is a lot more complex than keeping a business profitable, I mean by your logic someone who can budget a household can run company. They are not in the same league....at all. You bring up Trump the man who made his fortune by bankrupting companies....lol. Anywho, Obama has never tried to make himself seem superior, in fact his down to earth personality is why a lot of people voted for him in 08. The republicans started all this release this and that craziness but now that the shoe is on the other foot its a problem. *yawn*


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Originally posted by XeroOne

Originally posted by Gridrebel

Originally posted by XeroOne
So, what paperwork related to Mitt Romney's senatorship was worth shredding? Both sides have skeletons in their closet. They're both in a glass house here.

Yes, but one is the president and one is not. For Obama to proclaim being "transparent", he is certainly not!

Both want to be president, and Senator Shreddy must prove he's suitable for that position. Touche.

edit on 7-8-2012 by XeroOne because: (no reason given)

Just like Obama did by releasing his college transcripts, his passport and birth certificate, law school records. Touche????? I hardly doubt it. Maybe you didn't read my whole post, not that it was that long. Obama proving that he's "suitable", that's a laugh. He STILL hasn't proved it.

Originally posted by Gridrebel

Originally posted by XeroOne

Originally posted by Gridrebel

Originally posted by XeroOne
So, what paperwork related to Mitt Romney's senatorship was worth shredding? Both sides have skeletons in their closet. They're both in a glass house here.

Yes, but one is the president and one is not. For Obama to proclaim being "transparent", he is certainly not!

Both want to be president, and Senator Shreddy must prove he's suitable for that position. Touche.

edit on 7-8-2012 by XeroOne because: (no reason given)

Just like Obama did by releasing his college transcripts, his passport and birth certificate, law school records. Touche????? I hardly doubt it. Maybe you didn't read my whole post, not that it was that long. Obama proving that he's "suitable", that's a laugh. He STILL hasn't proved it.

edit on 7-8-2012 by Gridrebel because: (no reason given)

Actually I did read your whole post. Romney shredded a lot of paperwork and had several office hard drives wiped, so he really can't say sh!t against Obama.

Ok, how ’bout this?
Why not get them both to bring their documents and records and present them to the American public during their first live televised Presidential debate?

How’s that for must see TV?

Originally posted by XeroOne

Originally posted by Gridrebel

Originally posted by XeroOne

Originally posted by Gridrebel

Originally posted by XeroOne
So, what paperwork related to Mitt Romney's senatorship was worth shredding? Both sides have skeletons in their closet. They're both in a glass house here.

Yes, but one is the president and one is not. For Obama to proclaim being "transparent", he is certainly not!

Both want to be president, and Senator Shreddy must prove he's suitable for that position. Touche.

edit on 7-8-2012 by XeroOne because: (no reason given)

Just like Obama did by releasing his college transcripts, his passport and birth certificate, law school records. Touche????? I hardly doubt it. Maybe you didn't read my whole post, not that it was that long. Obama proving that he's "suitable", that's a laugh. He STILL hasn't proved it.

edit on 7-8-2012 by Gridrebel because: (no reason given)

Actually I did read your whole post. Romney shredded a lot of paperwork and had several office hard drives wiped, so he really can't say sh!t against Obama.

edit on 7-8-2012 by XeroOne because: (no reason given)

How about Obama release ALL his records???? DUH!

reply to post by Gridrebel

Maybe because he doesn't have to? At least he's still got records

Obama has released his tax returns, they are asking Romney to do the same thing, hardly worth trading over college transcripts. Harry Reid never claimed that Romney did anything illegal like not paying the taxes he owed, Romney used every loophole and offshore account so that he owed no taxes at the end of the year. I don't like Romney, but if he doesn't do something to prove this idea wrong, he will lose in November. I believe Romney to be a scumbag that thinks he is above having to pay taxes like most other rich guys out there.

I saw something the other day indicating, that Romney does not want to release them because he has not paid his full tithes to the church on his total income.

I saw something the other day indicating, that Romney does not want to release them because he has not paid his full tithes to the church on his total income.

Really? Looks like it's time for Romney to have a little chit chat with his Stake President/Bishop. The naughty little Mormon. No more Temple Recommends for that dude.

Originally posted by acmpnsfal
Reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Whoa lets back up here, lol. Being a successful businessman in no way gives someone more credibility in fixing economic problems. Running a country's economy is a lot more complex than keeping a business profitable, I mean by your logic someone who can budget a household can run company.

On your first point, that is true. Being successful in business does not assure success in Politics, let alone the White House. I don't suggest he's automatically the man because he can make money. I simply won't write him off because he made money. In far too many cases these days, it seems, making money is something to be looked down upon and shunned. Well... I don't agree and our nation never recovers if economic policy doesn't start being handled by people who have done more in life than College and Political work. Even with Obama as a 2nd term...if he doesn't dump the buddies and friends to replace them with competent professionals in their field, we doomed either way.

You bring up Trump the man who made his fortune by bankrupting companies....lol.

I'm not going any further with that one until or unless you back the claim with an example any one of us can go read and see for how he made money BY bankrupting others. No doubt..some deals he did left others flat busted. However, you aren't claiming business fortunes or luck of the draw. You say he made his fortune by bankrupting companies. I believe that's outright false. Please defend your assertion.

Obama has never tried to make himself seem superior, in fact his down to earth personality is why a lot of people voted for him in 08.

Barack Obama took the totally uncalled for and (this really was) unprecedented step of mocking and ridiculing the United States Supreme Court Justices in his State of the Union speech during a televised event, broadcast world wide. That was NO small thing and you can bet dollars on the donuts, that has NOT been forgotten by any of them as Obama is getting defeats handed to him from that same court.

There was a time not long ago that such open mockery of one U.S. branch of Gov't BY another and in those circumstances would have brought condemnation from ALL directions. As it is, it's simply never been forgotten by many....and that was only his FIRST foray into mocking, instructing or outright warning the U.S. Supreme Court. I'll be happy to support everything I've said. I simply didn't want to make a book here, so tell me what, if anything, you like me to document....as I've asked you to document your claim about Trump.


* For clarification. I am NO Romney cheerleader. I campaigned against him and FOR Dr. Paul..right up until the math stopped working. Now, Romney is the lesser of two evils..and they're both very bad. One WILL be the President tho..and I'll damn sure not vote by omission of action. That's the weakest vote of them all.