Police raid wrong house, kill family dog and make children sit with its bloody corpse

reply to post by goou111


yeah but they cant arrest the bad ones, then they cant go to the BBQ's

No we have to shut up and live in fear in our own country.....

until they fear us again, they wont change,.....what´s more they will insult us and do as they please with us...

no. Until they either respect their country and their fellow citizens again they will only get worse...

how many examples do we have in what is this year alone? how many arrests of bad cops? punishments?

a couple?

yeah its getting worse....I am losing all reason to respect them,and what´s more I see them as a national threat...

the same way I would try to cause physical harm to a terrorist trying too hurt my people, consequences be damned, I see them as being fair game.....the good ones are not good enough IMO.....they let things happen...they encourage it....

I have a VERY close friend who is a cop, and I plan on showing him my posts here and other places so he realizes that even his best friend cant stand it anymore and thinks he is part of the problem. Might cost me a good friend but I don't care anymore....my people and my country are worth more to me.....to my kids.....and he better do his part to change the bad ones, because I am only going to get more vocal and I might lose respect for him if he lets things just get worse..

I expect more from them....we all do...I don't want this to erupt into a major nationally crippling problem when I am too old to deal with it and our kids are being slaughtered for protesting or being the ass end of a clerical error.

If you know a cop, tell him what you think....let them realize that there is a price to being a prick or letting people be pricks...I at least might not talk to him again if he gives me the same old crap that only makes things worse...

that is what it will cost him if he acts like an apologist for terrorism.......my friendship and my respect.

because they all do pretend like it is our own problem interpreting reality and not their effort to destabilize our country and make it a living hell for people...getting pulled over is "an event"....and it should be just another part of life....but it is a threat to your life...

you can say mass, but at the end of the day....this is getting to be unbearable....not just bad....a threat to national security....to our people and our country....and I will not pretend like its ok...that means that we must do....the time for talk is over, they wont listen and our political system is ruined...it is up to them to see the price for being a domestic terrorist....

I will not call them even if my child is in danger...I will die VS the criminal or stop him...I don't want to owe them a thing....would you thank a terrorist for saving your life? knowing he killed some of your people or let it happen?

no, I don't want to owe them anything...I wont call them.....I want nothing to do with them until they can be respected again as good citizens....they are ruining our country and I wont help......

right up there with all the other enemies to the American public.....

Originally posted by goou111
i cant think of a better example of domestic terrorism

these cops are terrorist and should be treated as such

gitmo sounds pretty fair to me

When the Stasi kicks your door in it's because you are the terrorist.

Regardless of circumstances.

You can't argue with fascism. It's their truth or else.

As soon as I saw the thread title I thought...let me guess, it was a drug raid...

Sure enough, I was right...

When are we ending the failed war on drugs?

Answered the wrong post!

Originally posted by TheJourney
As soon as I saw the thread titled I thought...let me guess, it was a drug raid...

Sure enough, I was right...

When are we ending the failed war on drugs?

edit on 8-8-2012 by TheJourney because: (no reason given)

the war on drugs is such a joke

how can u win that war when they keep pushing all these legal drugs on you all the time

commercial after commercial with lists of horrible side effects

but if you have a little pot in some states its a damm felony

the hippocracy is ridiculous

Originally posted by nathanscottecho
The family shouldn't receive any money. IMHO the officers involved in this massive screw up should all be let go. I'm in the healthcare industry, and if I make a mistake as big as this I could lose my license and never get to practice again. How is this any different??

Oh? So you're saying that there's a chance that you may accidentally kick in someone's door, slice up their dog, tie up their kids, and force an operation on them?

No comparison whatsoever. If there is then maybe you should lose your license.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere

Originally posted by votan

I think they allow this to happen to discourage gun ownership. Do not have a gun or you become fair game for police.

What it should encourage is the militarization of the household.

If some asshole cops cant be bothered to double-check an address or spend a day in surveillance to make absolutely certain that their use of deadly force isn't coming down on the heads of a family just minding their own business then it's every families responsibility to make sure those cops and the families of those cops experience the same suffering about to be handed down.

Rather than take the approach of "disarm or else" people should take the approach of "mutually assured destruction."

Heavy gate at the end of the driveway, flood lights, alarms, reinforced doorways, barred windows, strobes, even smoke or CS and great whatever comes kicking through that door with a barrage of 55 grain steel-core hail guaranteed to shred any polymer, plastic, metal or meat in the way.

When they roll up onto your property that's the attitude they are operating with. Match it.

Maybe when the cost is a little higher than a few million in a civil suit and a dead dog the right people will begin paying attention and put an end to this madness.

We arent worth anything when we die. It's just the cost of doing business in America. They'll cut your mother a check and carve "Sorry, my bad" into your headstone.

When they die they get parades.

Maybe after a few parades they'll start double-checking addresses.

That is exactly what they are hoping for as an excuse to pass more gun control laws. All they need is a few fire fights between law enforcement and some armed household. they can push a lot harder than we can realistically. simply because they can paint anyone who would retaliate or not be pushed around as some kind of criminals or crazy people. it is not like they havent' done it before.

I am not for disarming but you damned if you do and damned if you don't have a fire arm.

Like I have always said, when the police stop you, your life is in danger. they can kill you and get away with it. which makes me wonder why they get their panties in a bunch when they pull anyone over.

Originally posted by ninjas4321I am absolutely shocked that someone would do something like this

You're shocked? Do you know many police officers? I'm surprised that this kind of thing doesn't happen more often given the level of 'talent' present in these departments.

Police departments operate with virtually no oversight from anybody, and only in really, really egregious cases is any attention brought to these things. They hire below-average intelligence, sociopathic military drop-outs and never-weres with inferiority complexes, give them guns, and set them loose, unfettered, on society. Question the police or their tactics and you can guarantee you're going to come under some serious scrutiny (harassment).

America isn't becoming a police state....it already is. And we watched it happen from the ground up, starting with local PDs with highly over-inflated budgets and staffing reaching a crescendo with things like the DHS.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

I advised her she needs to file a lawsuit for false arrest and she's looking into getting an attourney.

Very good advice, I hope your sister follows it and makes a point that the police ignored her trying to clear it up.

Let us know how it turns out.

Scary to say the least.

Best of luck.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


The children are now without a father and dog. The wife without a husband who probably brought in at least half the money (my husband now brings in 100% of our money).

I sincerely hope this policeman is fired and the family receives a good sum of money.

Again, the heartbreak of losing a parent, a spouse through stupidity - there is no excuse with the data base the police now have.

They are looking and acting more like military soldiers every day.

Didn't use to be like this.

Most of you reading this have never seen a loved one shot and killed in front of you................most of you live in lala land.

I've put enough bodies in morgue drawers and worked ER - the average person cannot imagine the sheer trauma this put the family through and they will never be able to totally get over this.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

The children are now without a father and dog. The wife without a husband who probably brought in at least half the money (my husband now brings in 100% of our money).

I sincerely hope this policeman is fired and the family receives a good sum of money.

Again, the heartbreak of losing a parent, a spouse through stupidity - there is no excuse with the data base the police now have.

They are looking and acting more like military soldiers every day.

Didn't use to be like this.

Most of you reading this have never seen a loved one shot and killed in front of you................most of you live in lala land.

I've put enough bodies in morgue drawers and worked ER - the average person cannot imagine the sheer trauma this put the family through and they will never be able to totally get over this.

edit on 8-8-2012 by ofhumandescent because: (no reason given)

I can understand that, even from my remote part of the world. I have a friend, a GP, who spent a goodly part of his career in ER in America. He spent most of his time treating gunshot wounds, those that were treatable, that is, and the aftermath. While it is not so cosy at times here, (there is a lot of petty and serious crime in the aftermath of 'the troubles') the new police force here, still armed, is in the main pretty effective, and without these kind of horror stories. The US local politicians really need to start taking note of all these incidents, and make it a part of their profile in elections, people also need to barrack their politicians too, otherwise nothing will ever be done. I do think though that there is also a need for some kind of gun/deadly weapon control, guns only cheapen lives in the ultimate.

Trouble is, the money has to come from somewhere to pay off these awards. It's not coming out of the cop's pay, is it?

Unless they have 'insurance' for these kind of cases, like doctors have malpractice insurance, it comes directly from property taxes, which WE have to pay. We also indirectly fund malpractice insurance too, for that matter.

Maybe it'd be cheaper and saner to fund enhanced education for police officers so they can read maps, warrants, and only be hired if they possess common sense.

And end the idiotic drug laws that are fueling most of this insanity.

reply to post by signalfire


Yes they are usually insure through a Third Party Administrator or Insurance Company.

I use to work for one of the largest ones in the world.

Still, if offered $50,000,000 for my husband and dogs - I would choose my husband and dogs over the money.

You can not bring this poor woman's husband or the children's father and dog back and they were traumatized.

But, so are the now over 4 million Iraqi children now left orphaned.

And they aren't insured.

Our world at present is being run by some very very evil, vile people that have sold their souls and it goes all the way to the top.

Again the money aspect.

It doesn't matter who pays for it - it should not be happening and it is happening more and more frequently.

Educating the police is not the answer..........the root problem goes a lot deeper and is a mf of a conspiracy.

Again READ "THE BLACK AWAKENING" by Russ Dizdar.

reply to post by TheJourney


Never because our shadow government is profiting handsomely from it.

Really??? You disgusting fascist PIGS.

I'm glad one of the children didn't get shot, or anyone for that matter.

Wrong either way.

reply to post by votan

Sadly the risk so far for a raid on a wrong house is some bad press and the threat of a lawsuit (which is their rationale internally [and ironicaly] for "obstruction of justice"). When they literally raid "the wrong house" (some John Rambo type) who has the means and the will to repel an illegal home invasion (and he could argue that he didn't know that they were really the police given the faux home invasions where they falsely "claimed" to be the police) and John Q. "Rambo" opens up with a legal title 2 weapon and from behind a hardened defensive position and he "swats" their squad who cant even get the address right.....then they will start to reconsider their policies.

This is the stuff of nightmares. There are no words... I suspect one thing, though.... the cops doing all of that stuff were most likely enjoying it...
As for the state of things, the boiling frog effect keeps coming to mind.

just do a search on botched police actions in MN(or nationwide). you will be amazed by how many times this has happened before... and worse.

many people shot and or killed, but completely innocent.

it has become an epidemic in the states and anyone who says otherwise isn't living in reality

Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by votan

 

Sadly the risk so far for a raid on a wrong house is some bad press and the threat of a lawsuit (which is their rationale internally [and ironicaly] for "obstruction of justice"). When they literally raid "the wrong house" (some John Rambo type) who has the means and the will to repel an illegal home invasion (and he could argue that he didn't know that they were really the police given the faux home invasions where they falsely "claimed" to be the police) and John Q. "Rambo" opens up with a legal title 2 weapon and from behind a hardened defensive position and he "swats" their squad who cant even get the address right.....then they will start to reconsider their policies.

I see where you are coming from, the most intelligent, and thoughtful post I have come across in many a thread here.