Chick-fil-A "non-story" exposes the Hypocritical agenda of LGBT Community.

Originally posted by Cosmic911
reply to post by gncnew

 

The real problem with America is the removal of the family unit...

I agree 100%. I think a good place to start is trying to figure out why the divorce rate in this country is so high and stop worrying about gay marriage.

Right! My husband says the downfall of America is the disappearance of the Front Porch.

Family Unit? Read the entire article - - its worth it.

Esquire's Best Dads of 2012

Gay dads, 12 kids are officially a family

Karina Bland - Aug. 11, 2012 The Republic

Steven and Roger Ham, gay men raising 12 children adopted from foster care, were recently named to Esquire magazine's list of the 10 best dads of 2012. But the two had no idea until it was pointed out to them. They're a little busy. Steven spent six years at home taking care of the growing family. In January, he went back to work full time now that Olivia, the youngest, is 3 and eager to go to preschool like her siblings.

www.azcentral.com...

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Thanks for the info!

I think your husband is right! My parents live two doors down to my left and I'm good friends with my neighbor to the right. During the summer, we cook out almost every night. Each of us pull together what food we have in the fridge and share dinner. I usually end up cooking because I'm right in the middle. We have found its pretty cheap to do this. It's also a blast because we all get together. It's fun and it's good to see everyone's face. There is no internet, no facebook, no twitter...it's great.

Originally posted by detachedindividual

Originally posted by StalkerSolent
reply to post by Annee

 

Actually, religious belief is a perfectly logical reason to ban same-sex marriages if your religion tells you to.

And how do you propose that this happen in a multicultural and interfaith society?

What you are basically saying is that it's okay for a religious dictatorship to rule, as long as it's one of your religion, following your rules and persecuting people that you don't like very much.

How is what you suggest any different to a religious fundamentalist in Iran saying that it's okay for women to be stoned to death for being a victim of rape?

You're suggesting that this practice is okay, because the person in power has made that decision based on their faith?

This exposes the belief I have had from a very young age - those who are religious and with their rules to influence their entire society - even when such rules have no bearing on their existence - are nothing more than dictators using religion as an excuse to control others.

Whoa whoa whoa my friend! I said it was logical, I didn't say it was right! I hope it didn't come across the way you seem to have taken it; you might want to go back and reread my post

Originally posted by StalkerSolent

And how is that different from a person born with a sexual orientation difference?

It isn't.

Disagree here. You can't do anything about the color of your skin (okay, fine, I guess you can use a Sharpie or bleach or something, but you know what I mean) but you can control your actions. That's why I think murderers who claim they were "born that way" should be held responsible for their actions.

I did not miss your point.

Where is the victim in homosexuality?

IMHO, this is one of the best arguments for decriminalizing such behavior.

What behavior are you talking about?

Originally posted by StalkerSolent
But the idea that there is "freedom from religion" in the US is not true, if by that you mean the freedom not to have others express their opinions to you, and try to vote according to their religious dictates.

Fundamental Christians are not being persecuted as some want to claim. They are losing power - control - and dominance. Christians are still just as protected by the Constitution as they have always been.

I've been watching the evolution of other beliefs/non-beliefs asserting themselves in society and through legal means for about 50 years. It was in 1959 Madalyn Murray O'Hair began her court case to have prayer removed from public school based on the First Amendment. Even though she is the target of blame - - - it was actually Engel v. Vitale (1962) - - Prayers in Public Schools.

Christians definitely overstepped their bounds in trying to dominate this country and that is now being corrected.

Anyway - - I don't want to go too far down that road. I'm just pointing out - - - I've been a longtime observer of culture/society - - - and how it evolves.

The Fundamental Christian voting block is definitely very loud and vocal.

However - - - recent polls show the majority of American society favors Equality for gays. IMO society is evolving in acceptance and does not want to add to history another experience as the Civil Rights fight. Loud and vocal can be misleading.

In the Chick-fil-A case - - - IMO the important part is the public was made aware of the millions of dollars Mr. Cathy is donating to anti-gay organizations. Some extreme enough to be on an official hate list.

Here's a social/culture evolution example for you.

Discrimination is just not favorable anymore. This is not the only college that has booted Chick-fil-A.

N.C. University Suspends Relationship With Chick-fil-A

BY Neal Broverman - - August 13 2012

Responding to a petition, North Carolina's Davidson College will stop serving Chick-fil-A at itsmonthly After Midnight events.

After Midnight, a late-night food and music party, features Chick-fil-A offerings. But after president Dan Cathy's statements condemning same-sex marriage and anyone who believes in it, a petition circulated against serving the chain's food; 500 signatures were received. The school will now stop serving any Chick-fil-A items until university board members decide to make the move permanent.

"The Davidson College Union Board is firmly committed to building an inclusive community that serves each member of our student body," read part of a statement from the school.

www.advocate.com...

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Homosexual behavior, sorry for being unclear. Which is kinda a moot point since the Supreme Court struck down Texas' laws.

As far as discrimination falling out of favor, you know my point of view on it; it won't be a permanent fixture of society forever.

Originally posted by StalkerSolent
reply to post by Annee

 

Homosexual behavior, sorry for being unclear. Which is kinda a moot point since the Supreme Court struck down Texas' laws.

As far as discrimination falling out of favor, you know my point of view on it; it won't be a permanent fixture of society forever.

What is homosexual behavior?

Society/culture is always evolving (sometimes de-evolving) - - it is never permanent.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by StalkerSolent
reply to post by Annee

 

Homosexual behavior, sorry for being unclear. Which is kinda a moot point since the Supreme Court struck down Texas' laws.

As far as discrimination falling out of favor, you know my point of view on it; it won't be a permanent fixture of society forever.

What is homosexual behavior?

Society/culture is always evolving (sometimes de-evolving) - - it is never permanent.

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I hope that's a rhetorical question...

And true, I agree, society is always changing. But some things remain the same...
Human nature for ya!

Originally posted by StalkerSolent

I hope that's a rhetorical question...

And true, I agree, society is always changing. But some things remain the same...
Human nature for ya!

Is there a heterosexual behavior?

Human nature remains the same? Pretty broad stroke there - - - considering humans are individuals.

reply to post by Annee


the statement made by the chick fill a boss was to a religious website.
as you well know.
the hysterical,whiney and hypocritical lgbt pressure groups reaction is a direct assault on one mans constitutional right to free speech. You all bang on about your rights to your lifestyle choices but being gay isnt enshrined in the constitution,
free speech is.
its a real shame that organisations have bowed to pressure from politically correct thugs and college know it all hippys, in a venal attempt to deny one decent man his right to free speech.
why should anyone respect your rights, when you dont repsect the rights of anyone who doesent agree with your lifestyle choices?

Originally posted by erictcartman
reply to post by Annee

 

the statement made by the chick fill a boss was to a religious website.
as you well know.

So what.

It's about the millions of dollars he's donated to anti-gay hate groups.

Stop trying to make it about anything else.

Originally posted by erictcartman
. . . attempt to deny one decent man his right to free speech.

The only people who continue to propagate the false accusations that he is denied free speech - - - are the conservatives/religious.

Every major LGBTQ site makes it clear he has the right to believe - say whatever he wants.

It is about the millions of dollars he has donated to anti-gay hate groups. Which the LGBTQ has known for quite sometime.

Those who follow LGBTQ news have been boycotting Chick-fil-A - - for at least a year. But you didn't know that did you. You didn't know that because there was no public display. No LGBTQ publicly protesting and carrying hate signs.

Now we have a huge media frenzy. And who exactly is the Loud Voice in the media? One guess.

Thanks for the public awareness.

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Yeah, I certainly think there is heterosexual behavior. It would be a kinda pointless dispute if there wasn't. Also, there'd be no kids. Which would stink...

And I completely agree that individuals are different. But viewing the history of humankind, you see that humans always seem to make the same mistakes. Humans are motivated and compelled by similar things. At our core, we're really not that different, as much as we try to deny that.

Originally posted by StalkerSolent
reply to post by Annee

 

Yeah, I certainly think there is heterosexual behavior. It would be a kinda pointless dispute if there wasn't. Also, there'd be no kids. Which would stink...

NO - - people have behaviors.

According to some - - anything other then missionary position of heterosexuals - - can be referred to as homosexual behavior. Its very inaccurate and archaic thinking.

But viewing the history of humankind, you see that humans always seem to make the same mistakes.

Which same mistakes would those be?

Originally posted by Annee

Which same mistakes would those be?

Oh, gosh, lots. Ignoring public safety signs is probably the worst-a real civilization-toppled right there
But seriously, there are lots. Humans have a remarkable tendency to shirk responsibly and instead seek self-indulgence to an unhealthy extreme. Often we shallowly care only about our own material concerns as our civilization collapses around us. For instance, Hitler's turnaround of the German economy led many German citizens to turn a blind eye to his horrific internal policies. Arrogance is another prime human trait, expressed in Germany as a perverse form of hyper-nationalism. The decay of civilizations is natural, but avoidable, if only mankind was not the fallen creature he is.
But on a smaller note--hatred and murder, greed and theft--surely these most commonplace of crimes, notable in the pages of history only for their frequency--surely these are mistakes! And yet humans never seem to stop doing them.

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...hysterical,whiney and hypocritical...politically correct thugs and college know it all hippys....

I wonder if whites thought this of black and equal rights leaders in the 1960's. It's a good thing humanity has the potential to grow beyond its own ignorance and myosis, huh?

Originally posted by StalkerSolent

Originally posted by Annee

Which same mistakes would those be?

Humans have a remarkable tendency to shirk responsibly and instead seek self-indulgence to an unhealthy extreme.

I''d say that's very individual.

Hitler's turnaround of the German economy led many German citizens to turn a blind eye to his horrific internal policies.

It was a different time. I remember back in the late 50s - - when the American government said JUMP - - people JUMPED.

It is not that way today. And I don't think it will ever be that way again - - - as long as we have Awareness.

The Internet has brought a whole new world of communication and instant Awareness. Now if the Internet is ever shut down or severely restricted - - - then I can see a problem in communication and awareness. Radio Free Europe was like a forerunner in some ways. If you're isolated in some village - - that's all you know - - until someone tells you otherwise.

Arrogance is another prime human trait, expressed in Germany as a perverse form of hyper-nationalism.

I personally would not call those who truly believe they are superior or hyper-nationalism arrogant. It is what they believe. Being on the outside observing them - - I can say they are arrogant - - but I don't think they believe they are.

The decay of civilizations is natural, but avoidable, if only mankind was not the fallen creature he is.

I do not believe we are fallen creatures. I do not see civilization decaying - - I see it changing.

But on a smaller note--hatred and murder, greed and theft--surely these most commonplace of crimes, notable in the pages of history only for their frequency--surely these are mistakes! And yet humans never seem to stop doing them.

Are you familiar with the fairly new technology of brain scans?

Originally posted by HamrHeed
The real issue being challenged is whether or not the creator sanctions gay marriage. Most people believe theRE is ONE almighty god so anything tied to marriage is being challenged as it is seen as a religious union.
There are mammals on this earth who are simply here to oppose. They bring nothing else to society and humanity. This is who OUR FATHER, OF THE HEAVENS TALKS ABOUT IN HIS FAVOURITE BOOKS OF CONFESSIONS

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Yeah, I guess He must have made a mistake and created gays... And now He's counting on man to rectify His mistake? That doesn't sound like all knowing and omnipotent.

Originally posted by Cosmic911
reply to post by Annee

 

...hysterical,whiney and hypocritical...politically correct thugs and college know it all hippys....

I wonder if whites thought this of black and equal rights leaders in the 1960's. It's a good thing humanity has the potential to grow beyond its own ignorance and myosis, huh?

OMG - the news/media was horrendous.

It was truly a bloody civil war in the south.

I was a senior in high school when the Civil Rights Act was signed.

At least some gays can fake being straight to avoid the persecution.