Curiosity Has Landed!!

Originally posted by starchaser

Originally posted by flexy123
Stop it already with that stupid "2MB pixel resolution is bad" comments.
This is the same idiocy as with the hype from makers of digital cameras, making you believe that the more MB a cam has, the "better" it is.

MB has nothing to do with image quality, every smart person buying a digital cam should already know this.

2MB is 1600x1200 resolution - which is plenty to start with - if they need "mega images" like panoramas etc. they can compose giant images of several images. (Look up the AMAZING "McMurdo Panorama", by the way. it was taken in 2008 or so, one of the most stunning Mars images to date! This image is 22k x 5k resolution, by the way, and Mars Pancam who took it over several months has only 1024x1024 pixel resolution).

There are other problems with giant resolution like 8MB - for starters, it would significantly increase transmission times to Earth - a big waste of time for a very insignificant benefit of "better" resolution.

Great, why don't you call nikon and canon and tell them to throw their cameras directly into the waste? Also you should tell to pro and amateurs photographers that 2Mpx are enough.
Go and tell

edit on 7-8-2012 by starchaser because: (no reason given)

A "pro photgrapher" has certainly other requirements than i have with my little Nikon "point and shoot camera", other requirements than your typical iPhone user and other requirements than the scientists shooting probes up to other planets. Also, Nikon and Canon ACTUALLY WANTS you to throw your camera into the waste each year - because, you know "8MP" is better..and next year your "need" a 16MP cam and 6 months later the average joe NEEEEDDDSSS a 32MP camera This doesn't change the fact that everything beyond 3MP for my own personal uses is already too big since a) my big screen TV doesn't even support such an insane resolution neither does my computer monitor. So..now tell me why i need a 8MP camera if i will have to resize any picture to even be able to view it?

Back to subject..i already told you there are reasons why they do NOT (need/want to) put 8MP cameras up there..there are factors which are far more important than plain resolution in pixels.

And, by the way, you can dig through a heap of older Mars images from Spirit/Opportunity etc....and i think those cameras had even lower resolution than Curiosity (some images are fantastic, by the way even from the older Mars rovers)...and did you hear someone say those images are #### and we really need more MP? It's a not an issue.

You should also not forget that some of the instruments used on Curiosity have actually been developed for A LONG time....probably at a time when 8MP was not even that common. In a project where some instruments might have required many YEARS to develop and test you don't simply switch and totally re-design parts from one week to the other...unless there is a necessity to do so.

I can't wait until we start getting the high-res,non hazcam images so I can finally stop reading the same damn thing every other post complaining about the cameras. Even reading about how some rock in the background looks like JFK and 2pac would annoy me less.

Originally posted by LucidDreamer85
reply to post by TheCaucasianAmerican

 

black and white !!!???

We had colored photos in 1908.....!!!

Think about that.......

And today in 2012 we have .....black and white photos...

We spend billions and trillions on this tech......and not one person can come up with a colored photo.

Grayscale ( b&W) image files are smaller than color files.the hazard cameras don't haveto be hi-res color.! (bangs head on keyboard....) All digital cameras create a "luma" channel( brightness information only.) The hi res cameras were not even deployed yet..............

Originally posted by IamMe14
I can't wait until we start getting the high-res,non hazcam images so I can finally stop reading the same damn thing every other post complaining about the cameras. Even reading about how some rock in the background looks like JFK and 2pac would annoy me less.

Certainly, we have yet to once again go through that same old round of "anomaly" posts, where some genius claims he "discovered" indisputable proof of Martian life because there is something that looks like a skull or brick or a transmission from a 1992 Buick. And of course if something looks like something, that's exactly what it is.

Any new images or links guys?

reply to post by CaptainBeno


I just clicked the post you replied to, but it had nothing to do with the mount. I'm guessing you meant the picture posted earlier from the mission.

If you look at the latest images from NASA, they show where curiosity is in context of the environment. It's quite a way away from the mountain, so I would agree it is a perspective 'issue'.

I would hope that if they see something that is an anomaly, that they'll take a closer look at it and multiple pictures from different angles if possible.. or chose that "rock" to laser or drill so that we know for sure. I mean if it's an anomaly, it should be interesting to any geologist without thoughts of if it's artifical or not. The problem with most every Mars anomaly is that we usually just get one grainy picture and that's it. It must drive the geologists at NASA nuts! lol

Originally posted by Soulece
So nobody else really wants to discuss the photo I posted? I mean its got some artifacts in it. But yet, nobody is really willing to go into detail about it. Another guy posted a photo that was released by nasa and it was edited. Well, I got the raw photo.

Artifacts, eh? Well, good for you. I'm sure your name will go down in history as the 5,000th person who swears they discovered evidence of life on Mars. It must be quite an honor.

reply to post by AmatuerSkyWatcher


Ah, yeah sorry. I just clicked "Reply to" on one of your posts. Sorry......confusing!

Yeah thought so, Cheers. Cracking resolution even for small B&W photo. It seems so close but yet so far! Difficult to take in the "vastness" of everything hey? I can't wait for nice clear images....the colour ones!

Cheers anyway.

Of course NASA will never turn over the best of what they have, immediately (or ever) to the unwashed masses. Think about it. They worked hard to get this project here, they studied, got good grades, beat out many many others to land their jobs. They worked and slaved for years(?) to get to this point. Why would they then turn over everything they get, to us? Why, we could take the very same images and enlarge them, color shift them, do exactly the same they will do- with our Wal-Mart computers! Pretty much all they get from this will be the images, have you ever worked hard on something and then felt entitled? Besides, we are uneducated, unworthy, dim, and just plain common.

So why is there no taxpayer ombudsman at NASA, looking over their shoulder, to ensure we get to see EVERYTHING? We are paying the freight after all.

Okie Dokie, Here's a new photo for you.

Taken from the MRO satellite.







www.bbc.co.uk...

color photo from the MAHLI camera is in this link. I suck at posting pics so I'm just putting the link.

www.reuters.com...

Originally posted by sprtpilot
Of course NASA will never turn over the best of what they have, immediately (or ever) to the unwashed masses. Think about it. They worked hard to get this project here, they studied, got good grades, beat out many many others to land their jobs. They worked and slaved for years(?) to get to this point. Why would they then turn over everything they get, to us? Why, we could take the very same images and enlarge them, color shift them, do exactly the same they will do- with our Wal-Mart computers! Pretty much all they get from this will be the images, have you ever worked hard on something and then felt entitled? Besides, we are uneducated, unworthy, dim, and just plain common.

So why is there no taxpayer ombudsman at NASA, looking over their shoulder, to ensure we get to see EVERYTHING? We are paying the freight after all.

This is an interesting observation, something in the middle though would be nice don't you think. Yes it is taxpayer money and if they think times are hard now imagine what will be the result of carrying the same old attitude along with this current mission, how will they ever get funding again? just a thought.

Just something i found...

edit to say: the .gif not that i done it..

reply to post by Fisherr


So one has been color shopped and one is real, reverse engineering

reply to post by CaptainBeno


That skycrane sure did make a mess when it blew up didnt it lol ..

But i bet you anything someone will take the raw photo wrong and say that its an alien ship that has crashed on mars and it even has the ejection parachute from it!! hahah

But seriously how big of a fireball was that? It has to be the size of at least more than half a football field. Dang. That was a lot of fuel to make that big of a scorch.

reply to post by TheCaucasianAmerican


Those scorch marks are interesting though i'm sure i've seen them before...

reply to post by jaysbot


It looks like what happens when you make those bombadier beatles mad.

That was the first thing that came to my mind.

YAY! We have our first Mars Hand Lens Imager (MAHLI) picture!

Mars Hand Lens Imager

The Mars Science Laboratory (MSL) Mars Hand Lens Imager (MAHLI) will acquire color close-up images of rocks and surface materials at the MSL landing site at a range of spatial scales with resolution as high as 13.9 micrometers per pixel.

FULL SIZE PICTURE

This view of the landscape to the north of NASA's Mars rover Curiosity was acquired by the Mars Hand Lens Imager (MAHLI) on the afternoon of the first day after landing...

MAHLI info link #1
[url=http://www.msss.com/msl/mahli/prelaunch_images/]MAHLI info link #2 (near & far-viewing capability before launch)

reply to post by TheCaucasianAmerican


Good Morning or Evening??

Yeah, I'm waiting for a thread like that, in caps as well......."MARS SATELLITE CAPTURES UFO DEBRIS!!!"

Yeah, that debris field is huge, I was talking to another chap on here about the size of that mount. We decided it was all about perspective, but when you put that debris field into perspective with the landing site............JEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZ IT'S Massive!!!!!!