The Excluded Middle of Mystry Babylon - Pangaea

This is the third in a series of threads outlining the excluded middle knowledge that allows the mind to separate myth from fact using symbols. This thread will be the end of the series. It will be in three parts.

First Two Threads:

A) Thread 1 - Hi, I'm Paul - Jimmy Neutron and the Third Eye Monkey

B) Theosophy and the Lie of Mystery Babylon

What follows is not the entire truth. None of us can claim to know this final version from the reflecting point of one life lived. What I have done here is bring together the parts of the central story. To accomplish this, I have simply defined the symbols and then used the central root story to bring the pieces together. In essence, I have done the work of Isis to rebuild Osiris. Of course, I am only using a metaphor to reveal the true source story for Osiris and Isis. The root of the story is found at the source--The Bible.

1) The first verse that is needed to unravel this mystery is a simple statement from God in Deuteronomy 4. This will form the pattern I will use for the rest of the thread. Number one will outline the true source of reality and where God resides outside this reality.

19 And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars —all the heavenly array —do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the Lord your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven. 20 But as for you, the Lord took you and brought you out of the iron-smelting furnace, out of Egypt, to be the people of his inheritance, as you now are.

---Symbols. Egypt is Earth and the wilderness. It is a smelting furnace and temple to make the sacrifice. Egypt is an image of Earth as Earth is an image of Heaven. It is important to remember that an image is not the real thing. It is a symbolic rendering of the original. Archetype is the best description we can use. The Sun and Stars are not Gods. They are God's image of THE Kingdom of God in symbolic form. When you look in a mirror, is the image you or an image of you? Where are you? What is our inheritance as Children of God in an image He created?

2) The Sun (Star) - The Sun is the archetype for Christ. Notice the twins as we progress through this mystery. All symbolism associated with the Son of God is locked in the starting image for creation. Hydrogen has one proton and one electron, positive and negative, in equilibrium. The Neutron in the middle is neutral, neither positive nor negative (TWINS on either side). All elements that follow the hydrogen bonds possess a neutral to bring the bonds together. The 6th element (Day 6) is mankind. Carbon has 6 protons, 6 electrons and 6 neutrons. In Revelation 13, 666 is the mark of mankind and the mark of the beast trying to be a creator God with Carbon. Babylon is built on a system of carbon manipulation, the graven image of mankind and the fruit of our knowledge. We bit into the apple.

3) When the Earth was first presented to mankind, the surface of the deep was not broken up and Earth was smaller than it is today. This is suggested by what we can observe. Pangaea was once a single body of land with ocean below. All the Earth's pyramids run along a single line and are all connected to the original Pagan religion before the flood. God opened the surface of the deep and water flooded the earth. As an analogy, what happens when a bowl of water is traveling at a fixed speed, and then something interrupts the motion? See this video as an example of the theory.



4) The Book of Jasher and the Book of Enoch

Both of these two books tell of a day when the kings of the Earth could visit each other and be gathered together for learning. Isaiah 19:19 speaks of the monument to the LORD at the border of Egypt. We can easily see from this that one common religion was present in that day and age before the flood. This religion was a corrupted version started by Cain, the first Builder (Mason). This is where number five comes in. The next piece of information comes by knowing the significance of Twins and brothers in the Bible. The Sun has one electron and one proton. We further have Cain and Abel, Jacob and Esau, Issac and Ishmael and so on. The twins and brothers are aspects of the divine symbolism for our relationship to the Sun and Moon, The Earth and the Sun and so on. Sperm and Egg; male and female; soul and spirit are other aspects of the same. With the key, we can all see clearly. Hermes said the miracle is one from two.

The book of Jasher outlines this world where, in chapter 4, men were messing the DNA of animals and humans to make new versions of what God had created. In Enoch, we see beings that came down from above to leave their first dwelling to sleep with the daughters of men (Sumeria). These beings were Angels called Watchers. God delivers the judgement to them through Enoch. Enoch says that in 5055 years (70 generations of the precession / 26000 divided by 360 or 72.222 years), they would be judged and destroyed. Enoch was taken around 950, which leaves us 6000 years in total. That would be today.

5) Here is where we can see why there are so many different versions of this story. After the flood, the earth began to expand and the continents became separated. Nimrod built Babylon and God then destroyed it and split the languages. As time passed, the nations drifted apart. In Egypt, the mystery religion started up again and Nimrod became Osiris. Enoch becomes Hermes and so on down the line of the nations.

In all nations, the central story that started with Adam, Cain, Abel, Noah and Enoch was then retold with new names and degraded by information entropy. With bits of information, we know it degrades over time. The story gets distorted and the true thread only remains in one place, because it is hermetically sealed in symbol. If you follow our main book from antiquity, you see that the Bible continues to tell the story by symbol, but not in distortion. God said, "Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated." This is symbolic of Jacob leading to Jesus by genealogy. The twin to this pure retelling is Esau. Esau leads to Mystery Schools and Paganism.

6) Twins and the mirror of the image.

When I started this thread, I said that twins are the significance of the story. This is because an image must have a mirror. If you can see the difference between the original and the reflection, you can see the truth.

Good - The image of God (Good) is one that gives and receives as a gift.

Evil - The image of evil (Devil) is one that takes and does not have a will to give.

Staring with the sun, we see positive and negative at the starting gate. When released, God is the neutral in the middle, judging the two sides. When we view religion, we will always see two sides that look alike. One gives and receives, the other takes and selfishly keeps. One is good and one is evil. One is love and the other hate. Unity is where it starts and multiplicity is where it dies. It is then reborn into unity again. In the middle, something is learned and truth rises.

7) Genesis 1:27

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

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7) Genesis 1:27

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

How do we reconcile this image and house of mirrors? Easy. We need to find the source of the image. All the reflections are then seen as they exist outside the image. What is behind the sun? Where is the projector of the image? What mechanism is used? We can now see how this works.

In Hebrews 9, we read the following:

23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God’s presence. 25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

First, note that we are a copy of heaven. We are the twin to heaven. On one side of the event horizon of Time, Space, Matter and Energy, you have us. On the other side, you have Heaven (Paradise). I can easily make the connection that Hell is not where heaven is. Heaven is not where hell is. If you get this, then look at what the mathematics of our story of twins shows us:

As stated by Paul Dirac's relativistic quantum mechanical wave equation, our universe is parallel to another universe in opposite. Our matter is anti-matter to this mirrored universe. The event horizon between these two universes represents the projection point of both.

Look closely at Genesis 1:27. Read it carefully. We are INSIDE the image. We are THE image of God. When you look at your image in the mirror, is the image you? If you know the answer to this question, then you know that YOU are not here. Where are you then?

8) The acorn is the 75 foot oak tree enfolded by DNA. The Oak tree expresses with soil (Soul / Sol / Sun) and wave (Luna / Moon). What is the oak tree? Is the image created and expressed in this world the oak tree? No. It is the image of the oak tree rendered with WORD. So are you.

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

The WORD is the first image created by God. It is the archetype of the Son (SUN). The Living Word came among us in the form or our kinsman. Why? God's law of Jubilees requires this for us to be redeemed from the image to the place where we truly reside. Your WORD (Archetype of your image here) is SAVED on the other side if you are redeemed by the Word on this side.

9) The ENTIRE story of the Bible is this process of overcoming the four elements to reach the final union of spirit and soul. The womb is the earth. When we find a love for the Spirit (God), our soul expresses fruit on the other side and we transcend this mortal coil.

Follow the progression of two becoming one. Sun and moon become one. Man and woman become one in love. Sperm and egg become one. Baby is in a womb and behind the veil of what comes next. The baby is born into the light and then develops and repeats. If the soul of the baby finds union with the spirit of God, a Holy Spirit is the result. The two become one and return from the image to Heaven where it all starts.

10) Temple Imagery

Our body is the temple of God's spirit on this side of the image he produced. He sees both sides and we see only this side. We are behind the veil of the womb (Earth). Now you know how to read 1 Corinthians 13 where God's nature is revealed. Listen to the full chapter H E R E, but notice the verse I list below.

11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

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11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

There are two things to glean from these verses. 1) We are children being raised to overcome four elements to reach our potential of spirit. 2) We are on the image side and can only know ourselves first. Once we know ourselves, we get to meet God. He sees both sides of the image, therefore, he already knows us.

John 2

23 Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name. 24 But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. 25 He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.

11) Conclusion

From here, you can now read the story for yourself in the Bible and get the truth. Read it in the Mystery Religion if you like. Just know the difference between the Twins. By looking at the Mirror of the Bible or the Mystery School, you will see which twin you are. Are you in need of salvation? Yes, we are here on this side, therefore, we are in need of redemption from the image. Jesus said, "you must be born again." In other words, there is no choice. Either you stay here on this side and continue to be baptized (immersed into the water) or you find love for God and others to move to the side of truth. The error will be found here no matter what book you read. Within this error, you can find truth reflected clearly in symbol.

12) Remember this: God loves Jacob and hates Esau. Simply come out of Egypt and overcome the Beast. Along the way, keep overcoming these four elements to learn. God is love. Love keeps no record of wrongs if we love God. Otherwise, we are on our own in the wilderness. God is always there looking for you. You are never alone as a prodigal son of God. Simply ask forgiveness and return. Bear fruit for your trip home.

Confucius said, "I hear and I forget. I see and I learn. I do and I understand."

Earth - We are planted into the Garden. We are not rooted in the soil like plants or in a fixed domain like fish. Instead, we can occupy all domains. This autonomy requires that we overcome these domains by hardships. The wilderness we occupy was provided to allow our growth by experience.

Air - We are given the Word of God as a guide to the wilderness. This word is also the language we learn and master. Meaning ultimately comes when we decipher the inner symbols of nature and overcome our ignorance and pride of the outer world. Meaning springs from the root, just like a plant.

Water - We are baptized into the Water (Immersion into Reality). The water cleanses the temple (body). The temple is where the sacrifice is made. This temple houses the spirit of God, along with our soul. We are to overcome as we are born again. "You must be born again." Plants die and the seed perpetuates to the next generation. Producing fruit ensures seed for the next crop.



Isaiah 26

19 But your dead will live, Lord;
their bodies will rise—
let those who dwell in the dust
wake up and shout for joy—
your dew is like the dew of the morning;
the earth will give birth to her dead.
20 Go, my people, enter your rooms
and shut the doors behind you;
hide yourselves for a little while
until his wrath has passed by.
21 See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling
to punish the people of the earth for their sins.
The earth will disclose the blood shed on it;
the earth will conceal its slain no longer.


Fire - We are finally baptized by Trials. The Flaming Sword of God cuts away pride and protects the tree of life. The tree of life is DNA. We light the fire we burn by. We can also put out the fire with the water.

Spirit - After overcoming the first four baptisms, we are then baptized by the Spirit of God. Jesus is necessary for us to be marked by the spirit for salvation from the Fire. The water and blood of Christ brings salvation from the corruption of the elements.

Find God through Jesus. Take the name and find the Character of Truth.

THE END

reply to post by EnochWasRight


I admit, I find your threads interesting. Here is where it suffers: anything but the Bible for a source?
Because your filtering everything through Bible verses actually makes it less believable.

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
3) When the Earth was first presented to mankind, the surface of the deep was not broken up and Earth was smaller than it is today.

How much smaller? What was its aproximate diameter? How long ago did this occur? Where is the geologic evidence for this phenomenom?

Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

I admit, I find your threads interesting. Here is where it suffers: anything but the Bible for a source?
Because your filtering everything through Bible verses actually makes it less believable.

edit on 5-8-2012 by coyotepoet because: (no reason given)

Sure. Just name the source. I'll find the story there as well. How about ANY of the new movies coming out that derive their message from the Mystery Schools. The 1988 movie TWINS with Danny Devito and Arnold!!! The ENTIRE story I just put up is there. CHECK MY POST ON THIS MOVIE

""""The first scene is of a hospital for genetic research on kids. The floor is checkered. The doors to the research lab said top secret. They are trying to create a super human. They get one good twin and one evil twin. Mom dies, or so they think. They each become orphans. The first scene is of Arnold (good twin) singing yakaty yak, don't talk back. Scrub the floors. Why is the orphan theme and scrubbing floors in this movie as well? He is also found in a library doing research in all subjects and he speaks twelve languages.

I am taking notes as I watch. I will post this after it's over.

Deveto wears black and white, Arnold is in white. Deveto is in debt to criminals. All seeing eye on elevator. Good brother saves bad brother from robbers. "As long as I am with you, I won't let anyone harm you," he says.

Tricks brother into stealing car.

Supermarket. "what do you think, angels food or devils food?". Girls making a choice of cake. The girls then meet the new twin. His name is Julius. He's a virgin. Deveto's cat is also Julius.

Parking garage with pyramid roof and two columns.

Every Orphan's fantasy. See rich parents again. Said by Deveto. Finds out mother is alive. She abounded them, or so they think.

Bad guy kills two architects because the car was stolen by Deveto. Inside the car was a package.

Julius finds one of his dads. Home is entered through two pillars and an arch. Chess board between them. Checkered carpet.

Roman columns on fireplace.

The stolen car and package belongs to a guy with horns in his hands.

Julius showering and singing the same song as before. Scrub those floors, don't talk back.

Old girlfriend comes to tell new gf not to trust Deveto, sleep with him or loan him money.

Robber who killed the architects now looking for Twins to get the lost technology. He then meets the other bad guys. Shoots feet.

Twins now head west across desert.

Julius wears a new shirt. Born to be bad. "let's rock n roll". Shirt has baby with Mohawk.

They go to Los Alomos. Checkered floor. Reminder of seven parents. Father two named the boys. Round glasses. Reminder of split DNA of two babies. Lab has checkered floor. Julius begins to use curse words.

Deveto realizes his genetic difference and laments as the orphan. Julius reminds him of gap from the relationship. Finding mom completes the family. "a real home where you are always welcome, even when you have been bad." Both twins put on white. New clothes. Green and white checkered shirts. He asks, "have you ever seen Frankenstein?". The two become one.

Deveto now happy. Vincent laments the coming date with a woman. Teaches him to waltz. 1,2,3.... They dance in a bar. The date goes well. First kiss.

Conversation of ancient Egypt beer. Julies drunk with the world. Getting ready to lose virginity. Skull with horns on bathroom wall. Robbers show up.

Virginity gone. Deveto in bed with girl.

Arrival at mothers house. Sneak in over the fence. Commune artist community. Whispering pines. She is dead, but spirit is always here. Turns out mom was the one speaking. She thought they died. Didn't recognize children.

Deveto dumps them in a valley between two mountains and runs to deliver technology. They go to Texas divided. Julius steals car with horns. De Ito arrives. Checkered floor in warehouse. Calls the guy a crafty devil. Takes money. Other guy gets shot by second robber. Julius shows up. Deveto gives money for brothers safety. Robber covered in chains 10 feet thick. Bound. Julius gives back money.

Mother reads about sons. Goes back to father to reveal lie about twins. Brothers go into business. $12,278 left. Deveto steals $1 million. Mother arrives between two pillars holding Teddy. Three become one. The whole family gets together. Two new sets of twins. Song united within and without. The magic never ends. """"

I havn't read the whole thread, got caught up with the video and just wanted to point out that to me it seems almost as though the Earth is very slowly exploding

reply to post by EnochWasRight

Sure. Just name the source. I'll find the story there as well. How about ANY of the new movies coming out that derive their message from the Mystery Schools. The 1988 movie TWINS with Danny Devito and Arnold!!! The ENTIRE story I just put up is there.

To be fair, I am coming from the perspective of a mystic christian (with buddism and paganism thrown in the mix too). My point was just that the Bible is not the end all and be all of sacred texts. It has truth in it, but to filter everything through the Bible limits one's perspective on TRUTH, seeing only truth (with a little t.)

How about using the Bhagavad Gita or the Quran, or the Tao Te Ching, or any other sacred text.
My point- the Bible is not the end all and be all of truth.

Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

I admit, I find your threads interesting. Here is where it suffers: anything but the Bible for a source?
Because your filtering everything through Bible verses actually makes it less believable.

edit on 5-8-2012 by coyotepoet because: (no reason given)

Read my version of the Twins move from 1988. Tell me what you see? NOTHING. You are blinded to it if you don't know the story in the Bible. If you bother to learn it, you will see clearly. This is why the Bible is necessary to the story. It's the root.

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
3) When the Earth was first presented to mankind, the surface of the deep was not broken up and Earth was smaller than it is today.

How much smaller? What was its aproximate diameter? How long ago did this occur? Where is the geologic evidence for this phenomenom?

The video I listed has a companion video that shows the land mass together on one side of Earth and the weight distribution of water on the other side. He shows that this is not a version that works mathematically for good reason. the water would have pooled and left more land exposed. As I stated in the OP, we cannot know anything beyond what our history tells us and what we can observe from the Earth itself. The idea of a smaller Earth in the past, with connected land mass, is evident by simply looking at the shape of the land mass itself. From there, the theory is viable. Do some reading on it. I already have. Either way, Osiris is a copy of Nimrod. The evidence shows us that the story of languages being divided and a central language being the starting point is the best implied axiom we can rest our hats on. The simplest answer is the best. Evidence shows us that this fixes paradox.

Of course, we can't know this without the Bible telling us how to see properly. Bias will always be the mark of the other twin. I have studied both sides free from bias. My chief desire is to find the truth behind the fiction. Read my articles outside this place and follow my progression from confusion to understanding. It's a story, in order, starting with my first article on Truth. Going back, I can see that I started in the right place.

Each man needs to answer these questions for themselves. I am merely reflecting my own journey. We won't fully know until we know God face to face. He knows us already. It's our hearts and not our confusion he is interested in seeing. The twins are necessary for us to show our polarity by the light of his Son.

reply to post by EnochWasRight

Read my version of the Twins move from 1988. Tell me what you see? NOTHING. You are blinded to it if you don't know the story in the Bible. If you bother to learn it, you will see clearly. This is why the Bible is necessary to the story. It's the root.

I see lots of stuff, but then, I have studied Mystery School material for close to 2 decades that goes back into ancient Egypt and beyond, prior to the Bible even. That's why I find what you are trying to do interesting. The information taught in the mystery schools, despite its perversion by the dark, is not necessarily evil. There is a lot of wisdom and light in the mystery schools.

Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Sure. Just name the source. I'll find the story there as well. How about ANY of the new movies coming out that derive their message from the Mystery Schools. The 1988 movie TWINS with Danny Devito and Arnold!!! The ENTIRE story I just put up is there.

To be fair, I am coming from the perspective of a mystic christian (with buddism and paganism thrown in the mix too). My point was just that the Bible is not the end all and be all of sacred texts. It has truth in it, but to filter everything through the Bible limits one's perspective on TRUTH, seeing only truth (with a little t.)

How about using the Bhagavad Gita or the Quran, or the Tao Te Ching, or any other sacred text.
My point- the Bible is not the end all and be all of truth.

edit on 5-8-2012 by coyotepoet because: (no reason given)

I agree with you on the point of perspective and the broadness that is necessary to widen our screen. The law of inverse squares shows this to be true. To see the source, our screen must be large enough and at the correct distance from the source to be focused. I get you on this. I have a way to verify how one truth can be hermetically sealed over another. If you have studied the Corpus Hermeticum, you might see the significance of why Enoch was personified in Hermes. The two best sources are found in Egypt and Israel. Why is Israel superior over Egypt? Simple. Joseph was directly connected to the pre-flood world through Abraham. The peoples that returned to Egypt after the flood were mistranslating the symbols left behind at the Monument to the Lord (Isaiah 19:19). Joseph translated the dreams and the symbols. He married a priests daughter, giving him access to the mystery. God gave him the truth. Joseph then brings his nation to Egypt. Moses is schooled by what Joseph left behind. Moses then brings the true version in the form of the Torah, refined by God himself to Moses. Moses needed to see the error to know the truth.

Enoch is Hermes, the first scribe. The library of Alexandria, up to the first century, was the clearinghouse for much of the mystery school knowledge. There are seven rules to rightly divide truth from the myth. Seven Rules of Hillel

Truth is hermetically sealed in symbol. If you look at the Egyptian version, you better be ready to find the key in the Bible where God placed it. Otherwise, you are barking up the wrong tree of knowledge with a dog and not God.

Finally, we see Israel needing to see the tyranny of Babylon up close in the final captivity.

reply to post by EnochWasRight

Moses is schooled by Joseph. Moses then brings the true version in the form of the Torah.

But Moses also grew up with Egyptian royalty and thus was almost certainly schooled by the Egyptian mystery schools as well and thus could not have helped but to have been informed about that information as well.

Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Moses is schooled by Joseph. Moses then brings the true version in the form of the Torah.

But Moses also grew up with Egyptian royalty and thus was almost certainly schooled by the Egyptian mystery schools as well.

Yes. He needed to see the error to know the truth delivered to him by God on the Mountain. We all need to see the error first. Compare this to the exile in Babylon for Israel. This ended just as God showed in the Bible. The very year to be exact. 1948.

OUTLINED IN THIS THREAD - 430 YEARS TO BE EXACT

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
The video I listed has a companion video that shows the land mass together on one side of Earth and the weight distribution of water on the other side. He shows that this is not a version that works mathematically for good reason. the water would have pooled and left more land exposed.

I will pass on further viedos as I typically like to get geologic theory from geologists, not comic book artists as Mr. Adams happens to be.

The idea of a smaller Earth in the past, with connected land mass, is evident by simply looking at the shape of the land mass itself. From there, the theory is viable. Do some reading on it.

I did, expanding Earth theory is not viable as there is no explanation for the mechanisim that would cause such expansion.

Of course, we can't know this without the Bible telling us how to see properly.

So the Bible tells you to see psuedoscientific videos on youtube postulating unproveable hypothesis?

reply to post by EnochWasRight

Yes. He needed to see the error to know the truth delivered to him by God on the Mountain

Funny. I've said the same thing about my own upbringing growing up in a Methodist church.

Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Read my version of the Twins move from 1988. Tell me what you see? NOTHING. You are blinded to it if you don't know the story in the Bible. If you bother to learn it, you will see clearly. This is why the Bible is necessary to the story. It's the root.

I see lots of stuff, but then, I have studied Mystery School material for close to 2 decades that goes back into ancient Egypt and beyond, prior to the Bible even. That's why I find what you are trying to do interesting. The information taught in the mystery schools, despite its perversion by the dark, is not necessarily evil. There is a lot of wisdom and light in the mystery schools.

edit on 5-8-2012 by coyotepoet because: (no reason given)

My own path to the conclusions I realize are directly related to my study of the error in counterfeit truth. The key to seeing the error is to determine whether taking or giving is within the implication. If the implication allows a thief to rule, it is in error. If the implication reflects giving, it is reflective of truth. Rumi the Sufi (Discourses and Poetry) are some of the best truth out there, but next to the Bible, the error stands out. Rumi was very close. I must determine that God enjoys our search, otherwise, sources like Rumi would be of no value. God gives to each freely and without partiality. Wisdom is something we can ask for with faith, but only faith. Apart from faith, no wisdom is possible. Knowledge is based on axioms derived from the image. We can only examine a changing state of matter. Law is all that can be learned in this environment.

Knowing why a law is necessary can only be determined outside the law. After we learn that love is the only law, we can then expand beyond from the material world. God's kingdom is based on the perfect law of love. The Bible is THE source for this and Jesus redefined what love actually requires.

Suffering is the point. If we smoke, cancer is not far behind. Taking any reward, apart from earning the reward, requires a debt to be paid. If we stop smoking and exercise, health is produced by the suffering of work. Suffering produces reward. There is no way around the part where we suffer. Buddha ran away from both sides and became a neutral quantity. He left his family, the main reason to suffer work. I can easily discount him with pure truth and love.

Confucius was brilliant, yet wrapped up in his own pride. Job was perfect save one point: Pride. Jesus was perfect and fulfilled the law for humanity.

Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Yes. He needed to see the error to know the truth delivered to him by God on the Mountain

Funny. I've said the same thing about my own upbringing growing up in a Methodist church.

The Bible says not to judge. This is for a reason. When a negative (evil) quantity is present, we are then out of context with the positive (Truth). Solomon realized this. He knew all wisdom, yet failed to launch it into his own kingdom. He was a failed husband (700+ wives) and a failed father. Despite the fact that he said, "Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is older, he shall not depart from it." How many of those children with 700 wives do you suppose he trained up right? His own princes (sons) didn't respect him.

We are out of context with truth. By being out of context, we will value it more when we see it. There are so many people that are judging God by judging others. Apart from knowing why we are here, we will not judge rightly. We must see ourselves first. You will see yourself best in the error of another person. We are all mirrors of this error. You will find it everywhere, churches included.

Faith is judging God rightly. He demand love for all and ensures it with law. Law is only broken by those who do not do the first law. For us in this place, that's all of us.

What a fantastic and for me personally well timed read.. I know the truth when I hear it and the situation I currently am in will testify to the truth in your words!

Thank you very much.

Very well recieved and understood

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I did, expanding Earth theory is not viable as there is no explanation for the mechanisim that would cause such expansion.

All things that cycle from birth to death will grow. We can partially see this simply from energy entering the system and plant material expanding the outer surface.

WIKIPEDIA

"Expanding Earth or Growing Earth is a hypothesis asserting that the position and relative movement of continents is at least partially due to the volume of the Earth increasing. Conversely, geophysical global cooling was the hypothesis that various features could be explained by the earth contracting."

Darwin was one of the first to suggest this. The plate tectonics theory should be just as much an unknown quantity as an axiom as the expanding earth theory. The evidence suggests that both are accurate. Typically, when two opposing views are mirrored, there is simply an excluded middle that tells us why both are correct. Check the title of this thread.

Of course, it may be a feature of time and space itself. Expansion and contraction could very well be a process we are not aware of. The suggestion is that this could actually be the case.

"A compromise between earth-expansion and earth-contraction is the "theory of thermal cycles" by Irish physicist John Joly. He assumed that heat flow from radioactive decay inside the Earth surpasses the cooling of the Earth's exterior. Together with British geologist Arthur Holmes, Joly proposed a hypothesis in which the Earth loses its heat by cyclic periods of expansion. In their hypothesis, expansion led to cracks and joints in the Earth's interior, that could fill with magma. This was followed by a cooling phase, where the magma would freeze and become solid rock again, causing the Earth to shrink.[6]"

You can keep reading the WIKI and get more. In the end, I do not limit God with the physics of it happening. I assume His Will can make it happen. Is God restricted by the physics He created? If history is any indicator, I would suspect our understanding is the only limited factor in this whole perspective.

One thing we can both be sure of: The continents fit together, which suggests they were once one land mass.