Target food proves evolution wrong

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

Here is a link to a Harvard study that says milk isn't the best source of calcium:

www.hsph.harvard.edu...

Yes I knew about the side effects, but your wrong on the mg scale. Cows milk is still the highest, and even then we would need three servings a day to hit our quota. It's not hard to realize that something is missing from our diet.

And a link to 10 veggies that are high in calcium:

www.fitday.com...

No, we don't eat grass. We eat celery, almonds, soybeans, etc, etc.

Ok but your going to have to eat about 12 servings of these to meet your quota, and thats just in calcium, your not planning for anything else you might need in your daily diet.

Again sardines are at the top of the list right under cows milk and yogurt, and processed cheese. Even still you would have to eat 5.4 servings of sardines a day to meet your needs. Something is very wrong here, and people aren't seeing this.
We have something missing from our menu, plain and simple.

Of course this is because we were plantend here without our intended food. Where ever home is, whatever your belief is, there is a whopping supply of calcium in some form that kicks the crap out of anything we have here.

Here is a break...

[What other health benefits does seaweed have?

It is packed full of minerals. "For example, it may contain between seven and 14 times as much calcium as milk, depending on the type of seaweed," says dietician Nigel Denby. Seaweed also contains essential fatty acids.

/ex]www.telegraph.co.uk... The problem is that its contaminaded with several unhealthy things, but that could have been a result of our own doing. Did you get that, as much as 14 times higher than milk. Now thats calcium, you could eat 1/4 of a serving and still be over for the day which is excellent. We just need to get all the unwanted things out of it.

Yuck, well at least we have plenty of it, LOL.

And a link to 10 veggies that are high in calcium:

www.fitday.com...

No, we don't eat grass. We eat celery, almonds, soybeans, etc, etc.

You will have to gorge yourself on your items to hit your RDA.

Let me help you dispel this belief:

milk.procon.org...

On this list you can see that sardines and whole grain cereals surpass calcium. Cereal does it by more than 500% by serving.

First off I have to apologize because I know you came into this discussion in the middle of it, we were looking for natural foods. Ceareal, and even cows milk would both be considered not natural. However I am shocked at the calcium value of the ceareal, The are either including milk on that or its fortified with calcium.

And things like greens still rank high.

High? You do understand that you need about 1000 mg per day of calcium right? Those greens aren't going to cut it unless its all you eat in the day.

You do not understand nature.

There doesn't have to be intelligent thought for the fact that nature is fractal. We don't know what drives it...only that it is an obvious truth. DNA is a facet of this fractal framework that the universe follows. Believe it or not, it will still remain truth.

I understand, but the fact is I don't believe that DNA can just change on its own without reason, like evolution does. Where would that place us today with homicide cases and paternity cases knowing that DNA can just change on its own without warning or reason? It honeslty makes no sense. I know you don't know what drives it, scientists are just seeing change and going, hey, there goes evolution again.

Mitosis looks like it might be limited to fungi and bacteria while tRNA I had to read up about. This transistion never seems to accomodate any found change, so I'm not seeing what any of this has to do with evoltuion.

edit on 17-8-2012 by itsthetooth because: (no reason given)

reply to post by itsthetooth


Did you click the links i gave you? Or just guess what was in them?

The very, very top of the list of calcium in the list I provided is cereal. You don't have to eat 12 servings a day, you only need 3/4 cup. If i eat cereal, 3/4 cup is maybe 1/3 of what I will eat.

In 3/4 cup cereal you get 1104mg calcium. In 1 cup milk, you get 290. You don't even have to be good at math to see all the holes in your theory.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

Did you click the links i gave you? Or just guess what was in them?

Did you read my response, I did indicate that I read them, and I also stated that I was specifically looking for natural foods, and that processed milk or processed ceareal don't count as being natural.

The very, very top of the list of calcium in the list I provided is cereal. You don't have to eat 12 servings a day, you only need 3/4 cup. If i eat cereal, 3/4 cup is maybe 1/3 of what I will eat.

In 3/4 cup cereal you get 1104mg calcium. In 1 cup milk, you get 290. You don't even have to be good at math to see all the holes in your theory.

It is when your only considering natural foods.

reply to post by itsthetooth


I eat a fairly raw and paleo diet. No processed foods at all Supper consists of meats, maybe some cheese maybe not, and a veggie. i get the majority of my calcium through my veggies. I intake around 400mg/day (i have this data because of my own recent weight loss, and my need to ensure my nutrition while tinkering with foods).

I eat a TON of fish. Fish are very, very high in calcium:

www.dietandfitnesstoday.com...

I eat a lot of nuts as well:

www.ehow.com...

Almonds in particular, as they are high in fiber and calcium, low in carbs. 75mg/serving

And lets not forget those leafy greens:

www.vrg.org...

My collards are 357/cup. My turnips are 249/cup. Kale: 179/cup. Mustard: 159/cup. I eat a lot of these. And with the average male only needing about 400-500/day, you can see that with just one meal of meat and veggie (where i eat 2 servings of meat, and maybe 1 to 1.5 servings of greens), I get more calcium than I need.

And it isn't just bitter greens, either. Spinach has 250mg/cup, among many others that are rich in calcium:

www.healthdiaries.com...

All of the above are as high in calcium as milk.

And let us not forget, that man is typically a freshwater dependant creature. We have typically lived by streams and oceans our entire existence. We have already established above the calcium rich properties of fish. What of other sea borne foods, like seaweed? Kelp has 136mg/cup.

There is absoltuely no shortage of calcium rich, natural and raw foods. I mean, bears don't drink milk....where do they get calcium for their large bone mass? Or elephants? Or cows? They all get them from vegetation. Calcium is a critical mineral for things like structure and electrical signals, etc. It is in everything. Plants as well. That is why massive herbivores have massive bones, and aren't just writhing and wiggling masses.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

I eat a fairly raw and paleo diet. No processed foods at all Supper consists of meats, maybe some cheese maybe not, and a veggie. i get the majority of my calcium through my veggies. I intake around 400mg/day (i have this data because of my own recent weight loss, and my need to ensure my nutrition while tinkering with foods).

Well then your not getting half of your RDA of calcium. This could catch up with you later on in life, and you could develope Ostieoperosis.

I eat a TON of fish. Fish are very, very high in calcium:

Even still, at the top of the fish list is sardines yet you would still need 5.4 servings per day. If your just eating regular fish, your going to need even more.

www.dietandfitnesstoday.com...

I eat a lot of nuts as well:

www.ehow.com...

Almonds in particular, as they are high in fiber and calcium, low in carbs. 75mg/serving

And lets not forget those leafy greens:

www.vrg.org...

These are so low in calcium that I would almost call them empty fillers.

My collards are 357/cup.

3 cups of collards will set you straight in a day, but you might find that your taking up so much room to hit your calcium level that other things are going to suffer. Its just to low to maintain any balance.

My turnips are 249/cup. Kale: 179/cup. Mustard: 159/cup. I eat a lot of these. And with the average male only needing about 400-500/day, you can see that with just one meal of meat and veggie (where i eat 2 servings of meat, and maybe 1 to 1.5 servings of greens), I get more calcium than I need.

No three cups of greens will set you straight but I don't think your going to have that much room.

All of the above are as high in calcium as milk.

Milk is actually better but again it has side effects.

And let us not forget, that man is typically a freshwater dependant creature. We have typically lived by streams and oceans our entire existence. We have already established above the calcium rich properties of fish. What of other sea borne foods, like seaweed? Kelp has 136mg/cup.

As long as you can gorge yourself on 1000 mg per day, and still have room for the rest of all your needs, you should be fine, but I don't think thats going to happen when you are taken up half of your days diet in greens or fish.

There is absoltuely no shortage of calcium rich, natural and raw foods.

Oh no, there is no shortage, its just that they are not high enough in value to help. You end up having to gorge yourself on them just to try to get by.

I mean, bears don't drink milk....where do they get calcium for their large bone mass? Or elephants? Or cows? They all get them from vegetation. Calcium is a critical mineral for things like structure and electrical signals, etc. It is in everything. Plants as well. That is why massive herbivores have massive bones, and aren't just writhing and wiggling masses.

Sure but they proabaly have a higher intake then us, and don't require as much as we do based on the amount of food per mg per day.

reply to post by itsthetooth


Ok, first off, let's fix your grammar a little bit. 'Your' is possessive, meant to indicate that something is someone's. Example: Your post was not thought out. 'You're' is a combination of two words, 'you' and 'are.' Example: You're making posts that do not exhibit critical thinking skills.

Now, onto your post information. You seem to be assuming that these foods are all this guy is eating in one day. Obviously, he is eating combinations of them. How can you assert that he is lacking nutrition based on your analysis of single pieces of his diet?

reply to post by Varemia

Ok, first off, let's fix your grammar a little bit. 'Your' is possessive, meant to indicate that something is someone's. Example: Your post was not thought out. 'You're' is a combination of two words, 'you' and 'are.' Example: You're making posts that do not exhibit critical thinking skills.

Now, onto your post information. You seem to be assuming that these foods are all this guy is eating in one day. Obviously, he is eating combinations of them. How can you assert that he is lacking nutrition based on your analysis of single pieces of his diet?

Well he's talking about eating 12 servings just to hit his RDA on calcium. Does it sound like he's going to have room for anything else?

reply to post by itsthetooth

We have allready established that your not the best at asking questions. So I suggest you retry and make sure to put a question mark on the end.

Who is this we? Oh I see the old question mark ploy. The one you always use when you cannot answer a question. This coming from you, a guy that makes more spelling mistakes than the Daily Mail and cannot form one coherent sentence.

So that’s a positive that you cannot answer my points or answer my questions. What a pudding

There is no way, we could have been designed whether you follow evolution or creation, either way we are designed.

Above is proof of my last statement. So what is it. We were not designed or we were? Besides that piece of nonsense you have not answered my point again. All you offer is your stupidity and foundation less opinions. That matey is not proof.

I'm still going to take the side that if you were honestly against the idea of target food, you would just produce some ideas for target food for humans to shut me up

Are you just playing the fool or are you really that dumb. How can I show you what does not exist? More telling is that you cannot come up with a target food or any proof showing it discredits evolution as your thread title claims

However you failed to do so. It's more proof that we aren't from here.

Your foundation less opinion is not proof of anything more than your lack of education.

When someone as incredulous as yourself is unable to produce even the slightest of an argument, well that pretty much seals it. I would have figured that you would have at least tried.

The only incredulous guy here is you. I have come up with many arguments; many questions and you have not addressed or answered a single one or anyone elses. Again your stupid reply is in place of the answers you should be giving but never do. Pathetic.

reply to post by colin42

We have allready established that your not the best at asking questions. So I suggest you retry and make sure to put a question mark on the end.

Who is this we? Oh I see the old question mark ploy. The one you always use when you cannot answer a question. This coming from you, a guy that makes more spelling mistakes than the Daily Mail and cannot form one coherent sentence.

Your the one that doesn't converse in english.

So that’s a positive that you cannot answer my points or answer my questions. What a pudding

See what I mean, what the hell is a pudding?

There is no way, we could have been designed whether you follow evolution or creation, either way we are designed.

Above is proof of my last statement. So what is it. We were not designed or we were? Besides that piece of nonsense you have not answered my point again. All you offer is your stupidity and foundation less opinions. That matey is not proof.

Just because I don't make any bold claims that we are created for sure, or whatever, doesn't mean target food doesn't exist.

Put that in your pudding.

I'm still going to take the side that if you were honestly against the idea of target food, you would just produce some ideas for target food for humans to shut me up

Are you just playing the fool or are you really that dumb. How can I show you what does not exist? More telling is that you cannot come up with a target food or any proof showing it discredits evolution as your thread title claims

The way you can show me is by using the same examples I gave you of target food like the ant and the anteater, and kale and the abalone, and millet and the parakeet.

However you failed to do so. It's more proof that we aren't from here.

Your foundation less opinion is not proof of anything more than your lack of education.

Well you sure act like your stumped, if I can come up with target food, why can't you? Whats a matter, chicken?

The only incredulous guy here is you. I have come up with many arguments; many questions and you have not addressed or answered a single one or anyone elses. Again your stupid reply is in place of the answers you should be giving but never do. Pathetic

The only pathetic arguments you were able to come up with was the tree sparrow having a relationship with man, when he actually has a relationship with our homes, and the bee having a relationship with man, when it actually has a relationship with our crops, and that wolves are actually our friends, which must be the reason why they are illegal to own.

Your such a putz colin.

reply to post by itsthetooth

The proof that we recieved these good is all in the bible.

You really have no ability to answer any question do you. I asked for proof of your claim

Well first of all these herbs were one of the things that were also brought to earth, at least according to the bible. Second, I'm not impressed by what they do. Granted we have harvested them, and make medication out of them, but what do you expect having a herb from probably every planet.

And again you have not provided any which after the 3rd time of asking is a pretty pathetic reflection on your dishonesty and level of ignorance.

Its YOU that has the meaningless reply. Your not providing proof on how a species knows as a whole what to magically eat.

Again. Target food is your term. YOU made it up and now claim it proves evolution wrong. It is up to YOU to provide the proof, no one else.

YOU are the one that is claiming a species magically knows what to eat as it is you that claims it was intended by some supernatural being. Now YOU provide the evidence and we both know you cannot.

Your also not providing proof that when do run our of target food, how they all magically know what to go after next.

What the hell would we run target food for? Does target food now need exercise before we eat it?

They don't all have cell phones so how is it that they all end up eating the same things?

Where did you study, children’s television?

Colin put up or shut up, your being a real horses ass. All you do is demand answers to question, and then when I answer them, your not happy with the answers.

YOU are the one that needs to put up or shut up. Replying to my questions is not answering them. I don’t except your replies because they are just your unfounded opinion and that is worth squat.

Your not happy because YOUR WRONG, and you can't accept the truth.

On the contrary I am very happy. Every poster here tells you how wrong you are. Complains you never answer one question and calls into question your knowledge, integrity and ability to read what is in front of you with any level of understanding at all.

Worse still you would not recognise the truth if you were slapped in the face with it. No I am very happy with how you are performing. Show casing your ignorance and dishonesty. Bravo.

BTW 'YOUR' describes something like your car or your ignorance. ‘You’re’ is used to say 'you are'. Try to get it right just once in a while.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
Well then your not getting half of your RDA of calcium. This could catch up with you later on in life, and you could develope Ostieoperosis.

Perhaps. Or it could just be that the US Gov has recently increased their RDA, and that for a male who is 40, consuming an average of about 400-800 is adequate (and appropriate).

But lets not argue the "what ifs"....lets get back to your response to data provided by me....

Even still, at the top of the fish list is sardines yet you would still need 5.4 servings per day. If your just eating regular fish, your going to need even more.

Really? Whole Foods says that 1 serving of sardines is equal to about 1/3 of my RDA:

www.whfoods.com...

if I were to follow your "5 servings", you would have me eating almost 1.5 my RDA of calcium, and putting me at risk for arrhythmia and various calcium deposits.

These are so low in calcium that I would almost call them empty fillers.

Really?

Jeez, you really do love your calcium, don't you? "Man, i gots to get me some calcium NOW" LOL

Cumulatively, with all the items I listed above worked into a regular diet, a person will meet their ADA. Otherwise we would see vegans crumbling apart as they walked to cash their retirement checks.

3 cups of collards will set you straight in a day, but you might find that your taking up so much room to hit your calcium level that other things are going to suffer. Its just to low to maintain any balance.

Who the hell eats 3 cups of collards a day? You have it as part of a balanced meal. Jesus Christ, if i have to work through your obtuseness, then you can have your argument. It will at that point become clear that no one else gives you any credibility, and that if you follow your logic no large animals could ever have been herbivores.

No three cups of greens will set you straight but I don't think your going to have that much room.

Yeah, because no one eats more than one food type three times a day.

and your argument about it being a specialty food situation....there is no such thing among any primates. There is no basis for you to make that assumption into your model. All primates eat a varied diet, to one degree or another. Of course, gorillas prefer their food stuff to be a particular green...but they will eat many things besides just low nutrition grasses and leaves. If they didn't, where would the protein for those massive muscles come from? You, as a gorilla, cannot get enough protein in vegetation alone....

As long as you can gorge yourself on 1000 mg per day, and still have room for the rest of all your needs, you should be fine, but I don't think thats going to happen when you are taken up half of your days diet in greens or fish.

1000mg/day is a recent change. It was about half of that for a male in the very recent past.

Having said that, your concerns about osteoporosis on primitive man are wholly unfounded. We are talking about a people who were considered absolutely ancient if they lived to be 35. Osteoporosis? No one had lived long enough to develoop it so that the average ancient man would even know what you are talking about.

I bet they didn't worry about the effects of iron on alzheimers, either. Or the disease process behind Parkinsons. The disease processes of the elderly were the furthest thing from the reality of ancient humanity.

Oh no, there is no shortage, its just that they are not high enough in value to help. You end up having to gorge yourself on them just to try to get by.

Then how do vegans make it? How do large herbivores make it?

Do you even have a concept of what serving (which is actually 1/3 of a cup, or sometimes 1/2 a cup when taken in official measurements) sizes actually are? If i have a leafy green veggie that provides me at least 250mg/day, and eat 1 full cup a day, I am meeting my needs for calcium.

if i open just a single can of sardines, i get a full 1 to 1.5 servings of sardines.

Just 1 meal a day, if you eat the right foods, will consistently give you the daily needs of calcium. Just 1 cup of collards with 1 serving of salmon. That's it.

And if i won't live long enough to ever need to defend against osteroporosis, then i could do with even less.

Sure but they proabaly have a higher intake then us, and don't require as much as we do based on the amount of food per mg per day.

Wait...."they probably"? You mean you are going to argue for page upon page, in the face of actual evidence proving you wrong, and you are going to leave it all hinged on "they probably"?

I wish that worked in my job as an Controller. "I dunno boss...you probably just spent too much money on inventory" I could even add in a noncommitant shrug for emphasis LOL

reply to post by itsthetooth

Your the one that doesn't converse in english.

There are many pages here that prove you wrong. I refer you back to those.

See what I mean, what the hell is a pudding?

Take a long look in the mirror and say hello.

Just because I don't make any bold claims that we are created for sure, or whatever, doesn't mean target food doesn't exist.

You cannot even answer your glaring error

There is no way, we could have been designed whether you follow evolution or creation, either way we are designed.

So was we designed or not designed? This is the question

The way you can show me is by using the same examples I gave you of target food like the ant and the anteater, and kale and the abalone, and millet and the parakeet.

You cannot even tell me what the target food is for the ant or even if the ant and the anteater are from here. The Abalone is a large family and the parakeet you have already been shown eats a much more varied diet than millet. Don’t you remember or learn anything.

Again it is your claim. You provide real evidence

Well you sure act like your stumped, if I can come up with target food, why can't you?

Quite simply, I am not that stupid. Now show your evidence.

Whats a matter, chicken?

And we are back to you being around 10 or 12 years old at best. That may work in the playground but you are talking to adults. Try to act like one.

The only pathetic arguments you were able to come up with was the tree sparrow having a relationship with man, when he actually has a relationship with our homes, and the bee having a relationship with man, when it actually has a relationship with our crops, and that wolves are actually our friends, which must be the reason why they are illegal to own.

Yep and beat you senseless with those as well. You still feel the pain I see.

reply to post by colin42

The proof that we recieved these good is all in the bible.

You really have no ability to answer any question do you. I asked for proof of your claim

You really have no respect for historical documents do you? All you can do is give reason about how you have replaced a historical document with a pseudo science theory.
Evolution has never been proven, and it never can be, get over it and realize that.

Well first of all these herbs were one of the things that were also brought to earth, at least according to the bible. Second, I'm not impressed by what they do. Granted we have harvested them, and make medication out of them, but what do you expect having a herb from probably every planet.

And again you have not provided any which after the 3rd time of asking is a pretty pathetic reflection on your dishonesty and level of ignorance.

Your commenting on a reply that as far as I remember first of all wasn't from you, and second was about how its odd that we seem to have every medical herb that we could possibly need, as though they were made for us. Sure if you look at it from a creation point of view, you can't imagine evolution planning anything out for us as it doesn't work that way, but it just ends up that way right?

All of our needs for food is all taken care of by the chaotic random chance of evolution right?
All of our growth potentional is taken care of by chaotic random chance of evolution right?
This same creator, for lack of a better term is also responsible for making sure that we have extinctions, and starved species right?
This same process is also responsible for altering our genes to produce diversity, even though this has never been witnessed before in the history of science.

Get a new religion is all I can tell you.

Its YOU that has the meaningless reply. Your not providing proof on how a species knows as a whole what to magically eat.

Again. Target food is your term. YOU made it up and now claim it proves evolution wrong. It is up to YOU to provide the proof, no one else.

Maybe your not understanding my prior answers about this. Target food exists as proven through anteaters, ants, and aphids. Target food exists through abolone and kelp, and actually nothing else. But you seem to shy away from commenting about this one. Target food also exists in the fact that a parakeets main staple diet is millet seed. Which qualifies it as a target food providing it's not a replacement to another and actually delivers a high amount of nutritients to the bird.

When a species chooses a food be it target food or not, the fact that all of the others that are the same species end up eating the same thing, is proof that evolutions idea of a species just chaoticly eating what ever, is a joke. If evolution was correct, we would see anteaters, eating trees, we would see beavers eating bumble bees, and we would individuals in a species all eating different things rather than them all eating the same thing. So evolution made a major mistake claiming that a species will just eat what ever it can. There is an order, and that order is consistant enough for you to be able to ask any scientist what a species eats, and they can answer. If species just ate whatever, we would not be able to answer questions like that. But it doesn't shock me that evolution took yet another mindless jab in its horrible made up theory.

YOU are the one that is claiming a species magically knows what to eat as it is you that claims it was intended by some supernatural being. Now YOU provide the evidence and we both know you cannot.

I'm not the one claiming that, scientests are, this is why you can ask what a species eats, and they can deliver an answer. If one eats, hay, they all eat hay, if one doesn't eat apples, they all don't eat apples, are you not seeing the flaw in this whole made up excuse that they just eat whatever.

Your also not providing proof that when do run our of target food, how they all magically know what to go after next.

What the hell would we run target food for? Does target food now need exercise before we eat it

Run OUT of target food, seriously if you weren't able to see that, your not on track.

reply to post by colin42

They don't all have cell phones so how is it that they all end up eating the same things?

Where did you study, children’s television?

And so you answer a question with a question. It's just another way of telling me that I must have to valid of a point, as your carefull not to address it.

Colin put up or shut up, your being a real horses ass. All you do is demand answers to question, and then when I answer them, your not happy with the answers.

YOU are the one that needs to put up or shut up. Replying to my questions is not answering them. I don’t except your replies because they are just your unfounded opinion and that is worth squat.

What I share on here is the furthest thing from opinion. The fact that a species as a whole eats the same things, is not an opinion. The fact that the anteater is a fine tuned machine for harvesting and eating ants, is not an opinion. The fact that humans don't have a target food to speak of is not an opinion. The fact that our menu seems to be missing a generous supply of calcium, is obviously not an opinion.

Your not happy because YOUR WRONG, and you can't accept the truth.

On the contrary I am very happy. Every poster here tells you how wrong you are. Complains you never answer one question and calls into question your knowledge, integrity and ability to read what is in front of you with any level of understanding at all.

Worse still you would not recognise the truth if you were slapped in the face with it. No I am very happy with how you are performing. Show casing your ignorance and dishonesty. Bravo.

BTW 'YOUR' describes something like your car or your ignorance. ‘You’re’ is used to say 'you are'. Try to get it right just once in a while.

Well thats where you an I differ Colin, I'm not here to listen to their opinions, as I don't share my own, I present facts and if I'm wrong, I want to be proven wrong. I have dared you dozens of times to do so in the realm of target food and still you sit at the bench like a childish choir boy.

Stop flapping like a chicken wing Colin and come up with something useful.

reply to post by colin42

Your the one that doesn't converse in english.

There are many pages here that prove you wrong. I refer you back to those.


See what I mean, what the hell is a pudding?

Take a long look in the mirror and say hello.


Just because I don't make any bold claims that we are created for sure, or whatever, doesn't mean target food doesn't exist.

You cannot even answer your glaring error


There is no way, we could have been designed whether you follow evolution or creation, either way we are designed.

So was we designed or not designed? This is the question

What do you mean was we? How about were we, OMG colin go back to school

The way you can show me is by using the same examples I gave you of target food like the ant and the anteater, and kale and the abalone, and millet and the parakeet.

You cannot even tell me what the target food is for the ant or even if the ant and the anteater are from here. The Abalone is a large family and the parakeet you have already been shown eats a much more varied diet than millet. Don’t you remember or learn anything.

Aphids like I said appear to qualify as a target food for ants. Out of all of the variations of abolone, they ALL eat kelp, and kelp alone. Excellent show if target food with no questions. Yes of course parakeets eat a varried diet, but like I stated, and you obviously ignored, like you always do, the majority of what they eat is millet.

Again it is your claim. You provide real evidence


Well you sure act like your stumped, if I can come up with target food, why can't you?

Quite simply, I am not that stupid. Now show your evidence.

What? evidence to the target food...
Again it is your claim. You provide real evidence There you go, kelp for abolone period.

As you had even mentioned, aphids appear to be a target food for ants, well at least to specific species of ants anyhow.
en.wikipedia.org...

As far as the parakeets, I have two different bags of feed, both contain a mixture of seeds and pellets, but the majority always seen on the contents of these bags is millet.

Whats a matter, chicken?

And we are back to you being around 10 or 12 years old at best. That may work in the playground but you are talking to adults. Try to act like one.

I obviously feel sorry for you, you have run a horrible debate about evolution and target food. You have been incredulous to the point that you even fib on some of the facts, like claiming that humans live in the wild with all of nature. Or claiming that human processes are just as good as natural even though I have shared the definition multiple times.

Dont forget calling the house sparrow a human species relationship while the relationship is actually with the house. Or how we supposedly have a tight relationship with wolves, which is why they are illegal to own right? Or how bees polinating crops counts as a human/bee relationship.

You're always stretching the truth to fit your needs, and trying to make me look bad in the process. It just proves to me more and more that I'm obviously right and your wrong, if you have to stoop to such lows.

The only pathetic arguments you were able to come up with was the tree sparrow having a relationship with man, when he actually has a relationship with our homes, and the bee having a relationship with man, when it actually has a relationship with our crops, and that wolves are actually our friends, which must be the reason why they are illegal to own.

Yep and beat you senseless with those as well. You still feel the pain I see.

No colin, I could see thorugh your lies and deception, you didn't pull anything over my eyes.
I'll bet you still believe that if you feed a field mouse at your door, that it means he evolves into a door mouse.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by colin42

 

Evolution has never been proven, and it never can be, get over it and realize that.

*sigh*

here...this is proof of evolution for you:



We know what happens there. When the cell divides, it DNA recombines and provides genetic variety. The genes that are the most helpful to survival are increased by nature of more survivability = more offspring.

This is what evolution is. There is no magic, it isn't a "system". It is just an artifact of the way cell division works, and the way DNA recombines.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

No, we don't eat grass. We eat celery, almonds, soybeans, etc, etc.

Great posts but would just like to correct you. We eat loads of wheat, corn barley and rice. All grasses and just like the cow we get a lot of calcium by doing so.

Just to let you know this guy has had all this shown him many times over 500 pages. He cannot accept what you are telling him as his home made religion will then fall apart

reply to post by itsthetooth

You really have no respect for historical documents do you?

I have more respect for those than you do for the truth. I have already invited you to debate your use of the bible as a 'clear historical document'. You failed to even take part and thus lost the right to make another baseless claim. Don’t bother to roll out your link. I challenged you on it. Showed you cherry picked from it already.

Talking about respect. Show some for others here and answer the questions you are asked then you may earn some respect yourself.

All you can do is give reason about how you have replaced a historical document with a pseudo science theory.

Oh dear the irony. Go tell the religious scholars who spend a lifetime studying and debating the meaning of the bible your fairy tale that only you know. Boy you work hard at keeping the title of Pinocchio.

Evolution has never been proven, and it never can be, get over it and realize that.

The purpose of your thread was to show how 'target food' proves evolution wrong. You have failed epically so the only one that needs to realise it and get over it is little old you.

Your commenting on a reply that as far as I remember first of all wasn't from you,

I know it was not from me. It was from you? If due to your very poor English you meant to say your comment was not directed at me. News for you. This is an open forum and I can reply to what the hell I want. GET OVER IT.

and second was about how its odd that we seem to have every medical herb that we could possibly need, as though they were made for us.

And you made another unfounded statement.

Well first of all these herbs were one of the things that were also brought to earth, at least according to the bible. Second, I'm not impressed by what they do. Granted we have harvested them, and make medication out of them, but what do you expect having a herb from probably every planet.

And again I see no evidence to back up your claim for the fourth time just more of your nonsense opinion. So I take it you cannot back up your claim as usual.

Get a new religion is all I can tell you.

What preceded this had nothing to do with you providing the evidence for your statement. If getting a religion means I end up like you I prefer to live without one.

Maybe your not understanding my prior answers about this. Target food exists as proven through anteaters, ants, and aphids

Jeeze you really are the ultimate in ignorance.
1. YOU cannot explain why the anteater is not found everywhere ants are found.
2. YOU cannot explain the fossil record that shows how the anteater evolved
3. YOU cannot identify the ants target food
4. YOU cannot explain why ants that farm crops and livestock are any different than man farming crops and livestock.
5. YOU cannot even say whether the anteater and the ant are 'from here' yet claim at least one has target food.
6. YOU cannot explain how those not having target food means they are not from here yet bang on about extinctions which means they could be from here.
7. YOU cannot explain how target food proves evolution wrong when it does not even show if you are 'from here' whether you have it or not.

Your unfounded opinions are not accepted. You made a claim in your title and I expect you to provide EVIDENCE.

If species just ate whatever, we would not be able to answer questions like that. But it doesn't shock me that evolution took yet another mindless jab in its horrible made up theory.

Again what preceded the above was total mindless, garbled uneducated nonsense. A species does not eat whatever. It eats what it has evolved to eat that is why lions have big, sharp teeth and the anteater has none. Why fish shoal and animals form herds for protection from predators. Why the ratio of predator to prey can even be seen in the fossil records. You really are clueless.

reply to post by itsthetooth

I'm not the one claiming that, scientests are, this is why you can ask what a species eats, and they can deliver an answer.

I have never once seen, read or heard any scientist talk about intended food let alone target food. Show your supporting evidence for your statement above.

If one eats, hay, they all eat hay, if one doesn't eat apples, they all don't eat apples, are you not seeing the flaw in this whole made up excuse that they just eat whatever.

You really need to learn how to use commas and full stops. Hay is grass that man cuts and stores as animal feed FYI HAY

Hay is grass, legumes or other herbaceous plants that have been cut, dried, and stored for use as animal fodder, particularly for grazing livestock such as cattle, horses, goats, and sheep.

Try to get at least one thing correct.

Apart from that you display yet again total ignorance of what Evolution explains. An organism does not evolve alone. Its advantages are spread throughout the group it lives and breeds in and is then selected for by the environment so of course they all eat the same food. How many times do you need this explained? Jeeze get an education.

Run OUT of target food, seriously if you weren't able to see that, your not on track.

Pal, you come out with so much crap it is hard to tell if it is a typo or just crazy.

Perhaps instead of glancing at and rushing through replies to you so that you can give your foundation less opinion to the next post you could take a minute to proof read your nonsense

reply to post by itsthetooth

And so you answer a question with a question. It's just another way of telling me that I must have to valid of a point, as your carefull not to address it.

If you make a statement about animals having cell phones don’t expect an answer any different than I gave

What I share on here is the furthest thing from opinion.

It is only you cranky opinion. For it to be anything else you need supporting evidence. Where is it?

The fact that a species as a whole eats the same things, is not an opinion.

An organism does not evolve alone. Its advantages are spread throughout the group it lives and breeds in and is then selected for by the environment so of course they all eat the same food. How many times do you need this explained? Jeeze get an education.

The fact that the anteater is a fine tuned machine for harvesting and eating ants, is not an opinion.

Evolution shows with evidence how that fine tuning happens and never once mentions 'target food' or transportation from other planets.

The fact that humans don't have a target food to speak of is not an opinion.

It is only an opinion and worse still your opinion and will remain so until you can provide evidence showing otherwise. As yet you have failed to provide any proof target food exists. THAT MEANS IT IS JUST YOUR OPINION.

The fact that our menu seems to be missing a generous supply of calcium, is obviously not an opinion.

You have had many people explain with supporting evidence how ignorant your statement is made worse by your refusal to understand anything you are told. You have milked the subject to death and been found ignorant every time. Get over it, move on as it is another car crash for you.

Well thats where you an I differ Colin, I'm not here to listen to their opinions, as I don't share my own, I present facts and if I'm wrong, I want to be proven wrong.

You and I differ in every way mate. The above comment shows how dishonest and plainly out of touch with reality you are.

Page after page of comments like 'did you even read the information in the link I provided?' 'Where is your evidence?' and ‘Will you ever answer my question?'

Page after page of evidence that your statement above is that of the most dishonest and deluded poster on this site

I have dared you dozens of times to do so in the realm of target food and still you sit at the bench like a childish choir boy.

8 to 10 years old, you cannot be any older than that. What is 'the realm of target food?'

I danced to your tune for hundreds of pages. Spoon feeding you information that you did not even consider. Those days are gone. You made the thread. 'Target Food Proves Evolution Wrong'. Start showing the evidence.

YOUR THREAD. YOUR STATEMENT. YOUR responsibility to provide the evidence and the answers. Do that for a change.