Keep Your Eyes on the Ebola Outbreak

reply to post by sizzlean


It sounds simple to you because you obviously have no real understanding of how genetics can or cannot be affected through natural means. Do a little research and then come back and maybe we'll talk. Try posting actual facts, as well, as opinions are like as&holes, everyone has one and nobody needs 2.

reply to post by Longshots

IMO, your a bit sick anyway when you book "holiday" in Uganda.

Originally posted by nixie_nox

So even if half the village ran, only 20 people are infected. that is not even remotely a high infection rate.

You people watch too many movies.

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I have often thought that but came to the conclusion most people love a disaster and make up a movie which plays on a loop inside their own head and has no interrupt facililty. Hence why facts have no effect

Just to add to the doom porn...here in the East of US we have this new Equine flu being passed by mosquitos.

www.thehorse.com...

Last week there were reports of people getting sick from it in Saratoga, I heard it on the local news and now I can't find anything on the net.


Found this:

Following death of Morristown horse, county Public Health warning of mosquito-borne diseases

northcountrynow.com...

reply to post by Longshots


At last! Someone else mentioned this on another thread but when I asked for more info, silence.

Thanks for posting.

edition.cnn.com...

The hospital at the centre of an Ebola outbreak in Uganda is dealing with 30 suspected cases, including five from kibaale prison,Dr Dan Kyamanywa said thursday.

If this disease ever goes airborne.................It really is all over
for the humans.

Alright, so, found this at All Africa

Byaruhanga said the facility was already dilapidated when the outbreak began, citing an irregular water supply and electricity, a broken sewer system and no medical incinerator.

Now, this is referring to the hospital in Kibaale, the Kagadi Hospital. How sad. If this weren't the case, perhaps, I think, these periodic outbreaks would be much easier to deal with.

IN reference to another poster, I wanted to show this:

Local media reports this week said patients at the hospital had protested about the lack of food and water, and wanted to leave.

This is in conflict with the (BBC, I think it was?) reporter who said they they escaped or got or or the like. I wonder if that person was right there or heard it second hand? Who knows. It seems like there a lot of conflicting reports right now-though thankfully, there doesn't seem to be a huge discrepancy in numbers (14 as opposed to 16 or 18 deaths. Though in this case, I think that is due to folks reading articles from a few days ago, maybe.)

reply to post by rigel4



Ah, so much doom and gloom! Seriously, I know Ebola, and in this case, Ebola-Sudan is very serious (Not the most "serious" strain, ha...ha. How funny.) but this is not going to be the end of us. Could a big pandemic thin our ranks? Absolutely. Is it pants-pooping scary? Oh yes. It won't be the "end of us" in any case. Real life doesn't equate to movies. (Not saying you believe that, just stating how I feel.)

Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by nixie_nox

 

55,000 people each year die from rabies.

That is really really hard to believe...55,000 people a year to RABIES!?!? Yeah right rabies is not that bad of a virus unless you never get it treated.

Its true, roughly 31,000 die in Asia and 24,000 in Africa...

But its typically only in remote areas where people arent treated

I thought this thread was about ebola not rabies.

Yes I got caught up in the rabies talk but this is getting redundant.

I saw another thread about ebola breaking out in a jail in Uganda. Sorry if that has been mentioned in here before but i haven't read the whole way through.

When you think about it, it wouldn't even take a full-blown pandemic to wreak global havoc. Possibly because of the cinema, we have been conditioned to fear the Ebola virus like the boogeyman. So here's a simplified scenario that doesn't examine the viral contagion possibilities.

If one person [patient0] from Uganda suddenly becomes symptomatic for Ebola while attending the Olympics in London:
1. There would be widespread panic.
2. Any kind of quarantine within London would be impossible.
3. There would be a mass exodus from London, possibly straining the infrastructure to the point of failure.
4. Some nations may panic and close their borders.
5. Other nations may quickly impose draconian testing and quarantine measures. (This sounds like the knee jerk reaction the US would have.)
6. Given the skittishness of the financial markets, fear could drive some markets down, while hoarding of resources could drive up commodity prices.

Now that scenario is probably a worst case reaction to Ebola's second most devious characteristic: FEAR. However, it's probable that there would be some international impact that likely would not disperse too quickly.

If you want to turn this into a really good horror story, imagine "patient0" ate dinner at a Salad Bar the night before he became fully symptomatic. At that time, he felt rather tired and slightly feverish with a small headache.

His slight headache and fever caused him to forget to wash his hands when he left the restroom. At the salad bar he serves himself with the shared serving utensils ubiquitous at such establishments. Other patrons after him handle the same utensils.

Patient0 is now shedding the virus in an environment that is perfect for transmission and infection. The patrons use shared utensils where infectious agents can easily be transmitted from hand to hand. Hands are used directly in the eating process. In the case of bread, the food is often handled directly. Oral ingestion is one of the primary means of contracting the virus.

Given the probability that the establishment is serving an international clientele, the virus now has a medium to spread worldwide. Because of the incubation period of Ebola, the infected would not be aware of their condition until after they had returned home.

So now in addition to the fear element, there is an actual possibility of a pandemic.

If you liked this horror story, stay tuned for the sequel: "How the Ebola pandemic culled the heard!"

Dex

I personally think don't think this means that this is "all over" but I do think that it means that things are more under control...thankfully. If the Ugandan government doesn't have it's crayons together, at least MSF/WHO/CDC does.

Joaquim Saweka, the WHO representative in Uganda, told reporters Friday that everyone known to have had contact with Ebola victims has been isolated — a total of 176 people.

And here is the link to the Washington Post: WHO official says outbreak of Ebola in Uganda is under control

In first world countries, medications are regulated. This is not the case with medications in third world countries and it is possible to buy almost anything over the counter, simply by walking into a pharmacy and asking for it. This includes injection-only types of medications.

Remember the bird/swine flu spread? Airports measured the body temperature of everyone boarding planes, including those who took fever reducers so they showed no symptoms.

All it would take is one person who had been exposed with a plane ticket and enough money to buy whatever it would take to mask early-onset symptoms. Just sayin'.

Originally posted by Beavers
reply to post by nixie_nox

 

Ebola makes rabies look like child's play.

If it gets in a major airport, kiss life as you know it goodbye

This is not necessarily true, as none of the stains that effect humans are airborn. That being said, if a mutation were to happen to Ebola Zaire or Reston it could be very deadly to all people world wide.

Notice: I did say not necessarily, I will say it could be very dangerous, but it not being airborn makes it much easier to handle if that were to happen.

If anyone if curious and wishes to read a book about this virus that is a very true story. Read "The Hot Zone"

This is a very well written book and is written as a story, only the facts in it are true.

Google Books

reply to post by jhn7537


Which is the same as ebola

reply to post by tw0330


The Hot Zone is full of a lot of inaccuracies.

Originally posted by rigel4
If this disease ever goes airborne.................It really is all over
for the humans.

This is not true. It would be very devastating to the human population as the strains discovered so far kill anywhere from 25% to 90% of the population, but there are those in every strain they have found to be immune to the virus and/or successfully recover from it.

Though there is always a chance a strain could mutate to an airborn virus that has a 100% kill rate.

I'm not sure how to put this exactly, but as soon as I heard that the outbreak was in Uganda, the red flags went up. For a good part of the year, I've been noticing all kinds of fishy things connected with that country. Kony 2012 was the big one, but there were bits and pieces here and there. (Like when the news was reporting Nodding Sickness like crazy for a few days, when in reality its been present in Uganda for decades, and it wasn't suddenly reaching epidemic proportions.) There've been other things, too, but I just woke up a little bit ago and can't remember them all.

I don't know what it is -- I can't put my finger on it -- but I have the feeling that either something very bad is going on in Uganda, or somebody keeps trying to pull everyone's attention there for some reason.