The 13 Most Evil U.S. Government Experiments on Humans

reply to post by VoidHawk

At local schools where I live children are taught to spy on their parents and report back to the school. While moving between lessons they must walk single file with one hand on the shoulder of the child in front. If they speak while marching between lessons they receive detention. And what do the "teachers" do about this? They go along with it. When a teacher was asked by a friend of mine why her child must march with her hand on the shoulder of the child in front, and without speaking, the teacher said "we cant have them running wild, people would get hurt" That reply tells us a lot about the intelligence of those teaching the children.

Thanks VoidHawk. You haven't scratched the surface.... I just copied (a Freudian slip?) off another thread.....

as a teacher I see kids on 5 or 6 heavy-duty meds and the poor child can barely function. Magic Pills

See... sometimes a little truth comes out from a change-agent here and there. (my apologies if the poster of this quote really did mean to speak out against what is happening to the kids, I am used to them supporting the drugging of the children). They have to be careful because that paycheck is at risk. Imagine if everyone decided to place honesty above their paychecks.... I got that quote from the thread : Rationing Begins: States Limiting Drug Prescriptions for Medicaid Patients

The numerous crimes against humanity documented within the last century are horrifying. False flags, genocide, shadow governments, assasinations, child sex slave rings, systems of slavery indoctrinized by the Military industrial complex, the real world is an ugly place, I can understand why some would want to turn a blind eye and deaf ear. :/

To all those who think the US is the largest advocate of this cruel cr@p:


Sorry I came in late.
I have to ask,.....you do follow Jim Marrs, correct?

Seen the Trillion Dollar Conspiracy video on Youtube, and/or read the book?

What about other books he has put out?

Know who Jim Marrs is?

Tell you what..........just view the above posted video, then post back.
I believe you will understand the cruel 'experiments' a whole lot better.
Understand why they got away with it, and what they are trying to 'accomplish' by them.

Watch the future! The 'experiments' will PALE in comparison!

OR,

Wake up, smell the coffee, and let's all get together, and start doing something about it!
(Not intended for the 'sheepies'. Just tuck your heads back in the sand)

The US is just a puppet for the Bilderberg Group. The strongarm puppet


Regards,
joecoolvette

Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by McGinty
How on earth does one war crime exonerate another

Riigghtt...

Remember who started this all. Remember who decided that they wanted to run the show in the Pacific and have every other country subservient under them.

Japan started the war. You start a war with the world, you lose the right to complain when said world turns around and lays the nuclear mushroom stamp across your dumbass forehead.

At what point did the innocent people, the families, women and children of the Pacific Islands declare '…War with the world"

reply to post by MarkJS


targetting civilian populations is a war crime regardless , even though the japanese continued to fight !
Wouldnt you continue to fight if you found out your homeland had just been decimated by a nuclear bomb ?

The japanese have also a horrible history of human experimentation, like infecting chinese prisoners of war with the bubonic plague !

wow. I'm tired of all this sh*t saying america is so bad...Japan, did this also and was the same if not twice as bad. UNIT 731.. So don't be bashing the states as being the enemy, every country has done this horrific act against humans. I personaly think UNIT 731 was just disgusting and horrible, beyond the states IMO. Even Canada was appart of the MKULTRA project back than..So really, No country is a "Princess"

Also china isn't so innocent, and this is more recent..

" In 2002, Changde, China, site of the flea spraying attack, held an "International Symposium on the Crimes of Bacteriological Warfare" which estimated that at least 580,000 people died as a result of the attack.[23] The historian Sheldon Harris claims that 200,000 died.[24] However, Harris' numbers are not based on any hard evidence, and the real number is thought to be quite smaller. In reality, it is believed that fewer than 100 Chinese died in most such attacks, and in Chekiang 1,700 Japanese were killed while attempting to unleash the biological agent, which evidences serious issues with distribution. "

The 'bad America' stuff I can't stomach. Try living in one of these other third world hell holes, or God forbid, next time someone like Hitler comes along and no place on earth is safe unless you can fight him off and blah blah.

But, the whole conversation brings me back 20 years to an interview I heard with Yitzhak the beast Rabin on NPR of all places.

They started taking phone calls for Rabin and some little college puke called in and whines, "you execute people without a fair trial" or something like that. Rabin said, "My friend, you live in a dream world. We live surrounded by hostile enemies who think nothing of getting on a bus full of women and children with a bomb designed to kill as many of them as possible. We don't have time".

I'll never forget that as long as I live. Most of you live in a dream world. I don't condone what goes on, but I'm not shocked. The only thing that ever shocks me is that it's not a million times worse. I thank God every day for my country where I grew up and have since brought up my children in relative safety protected from the global community.

Just my opinion.

reply to post by crawdad1914

I'm not saying there shouldn't have been discussion around the decision/ And true, Japan could have surrendered with the threat of China, Russian invading from the west. Agreed they hated them more the Americans (they figured the Americans would just go home). In the meantime, preparations had to go on invade Japan. Oh, and by the way, we were in negotiations with Japan about staying out of the war when they bombed Pearl Harbor so there wasn't a lot of trust there.
I used to think it was test. Why would they drop two different types of bombs? Ans: They just happened to be working, in tandem, on two different types in case the first one didn't work. The Japanese's may have very well surrendered given the fact they were beaten and the Russians were coming but, there were a couple other things going on... We didn't want to test the bombs in Europe, AND the Japanese were especially cruel to US prisoners of War and were considered somewhat barbaric and not trustworthy. The war could have drawn on for years going through negotiations and most had lost the stomach for war (that war did not have the precision modern wars have. They destroyed EVERYTHING and killed millions of civilians).
So, include Dropping the Bomb as one of the 13-Most Evil US Government Experiments or make it number 14. This decision will not effect any of us in anyway.

Originally posted by shogun12
The 'bad America' stuff I can't stomach. Try living in one of these other third world hell holes, or God forbid, next time someone like Hitler comes along and no place on earth is safe unless you can fight him off and blah blah.

In that short snippet we have fear mongering by bringing up a fully demonized Hitler as a reason why we should trade our liberty. We also have someone saying, in essence, "Yeah, America may suck....but not as bad as some of those other places that America has REALLY screwed up over the last 100 years."

You may choose to see America's crimes as different, somehow, than those of other countries. And a peanut in a turd may be different than the rest of the turd. But that peanut is still "turd", because to call it a peanut is to insinuate that you would eat it. Our crimes are no different, and far, far more wide ranging.

Not here to bash my beloved country. But it sickens me what the people who have taken it over have done to it. I do not consent to or support our wars.

But, the whole conversation brings me back 20 years to an interview I heard with Yitzhak the beast Rabin on NPR of all places.

They started taking phone calls for Rabin and some little college puke called in and whines, "you execute people without a fair trial" or something like that. Rabin said, "My friend, you live in a dream world. We live surrounded by hostile enemies who think nothing of getting on a bus full of women and children with a bomb designed to kill as many of them as possible. We don't have time".

I'll never forget that as long as I live. Most of you live in a dream world. I don't condone what goes on, but I'm not shocked. The only thing that ever shocks me is that it's not a million times worse. I thank God every day for my country where I grew up and have since brought up my children in relative safety protected from the global community.

Just my opinion.

Do you think "the beast" is correct in his assertion? That the ends justify the means?

I guess I do live in a dream world. I do not accept pre-emptive strikes as a logical strategy. I do not accept with holding due process to anyone. Ever.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


Wow!! A star to you Sir! Fantastic well reasoned post!

Thank you!

reply to post by LittleBlackEagle


The first thought out of my mind when I read what the OP posted was "whoa"....but then I realized that this definitely isn't the first time. My mind drifted back to when I was in junior high, and we were taught state history-my homestate being Minnesota. The Dakota uprising along the Des Moines river was over the government not delivering the promised rations as well as delivering blankets laced with smallpox, which quickly decimated the population. Why would it surprise anyone that our government is doing the same thing to the general population?

The thing is....they can only stay in those bunkers of theirs for a limited time. If they have removed the population, who will be left to grow food, rebuild, etc? Most of those folks are beyond child bearing years (in the women's cases anyway), so how would one repopulate the earth? Yes, I feel that it would be a worldwide event, as if they come up with something that is huge enough to wipe out most, if not all Americans, it will surely have a worldwide effect. None of those folks sitting in DC are even remotely capable of growing their own food, or doing any kind of physical labor whatsoever. I really don't think those higher up have sat and thought about the consequences of their actions. If no one is left, who will they have power over? Seems rather self -defeating.

Just my 2 cents.
Great job OP! Definitely food for thought.

SK

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

No, I don't see Americas' crimes as different. People are all the same everywhere and capable of atrocity. So you think we are imperialist and should stay home and all will be well. I wish I could agree. I doubt our wars are entirely just or we never damaged anyone, nor did I mean to imply that. I'm just glad I'm here.

Was the beast correct? I don't know. I do know if the IDF did not act in a pre-emptive fashion, Israel would not exist which was implied in his statement. That is correct and I agree 100%. I'm sure we do the same thing. I hope we keep doing it.

I don't like that things are the way they are but I can't afford to pretend they aren't.

reply to post by MassOccurs


I was with you 100% and now 200% since you mentioned rethinking experimenting on animals too! Thank you. I'm a big animal lover and despise vivisection!

ETA: Great thread OP! I already knew about many of these atrocities committed upon mankind but I question who is really pulling the strings? Is it really as simple as blaming our elected officials? I'm not sure. Although, our elected politicians are a disgrace, IMHO, I'm not sure that they are responsible for the sort of thing we are discussing. I think maybe this kind of stuff goes on without even their knowledge or consent.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by xXxinfidelxXx

 

Hypothetical question, if one of these patients being experimented on could produce a vaccine, would you deny that vaccine to others? If it meant saving thousands of lives?

First law is to protect life.

If harming someone purposely to gain knowledge and results for the purpose medicines and vaccines is ok with anyone, they (the person that is ok with these types of experiments) should be putting their hand up for the next lot of testing.

Vaccines are not cures; they mainly cause the problem in the first place.

Originally posted by shogun12
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

 

No, I don't see Americas' crimes as different. People are all the same everywhere and capable of atrocity. So you think we are imperialist and should stay home and all will be well. I wish I could agree. I doubt our wars are entirely just or we never damaged anyone, nor did I mean to imply that. I'm just glad I'm here.

We are not the imperialists, we are the enforcers for the imperialists I think we should all certainly stay home. I disagree with war I am a "come and take it" kind of guy, and don't worry about anyone who isn't willing to come to my house to take whatever it is they want. Until there are troops on our shores, I have no interest in taking up arms against a foreign enemy.

Was the beast correct? I don't know. I do know if the IDF did not act in a pre-emptive fashion, Israel would not exist which was implied in his statement. That is correct and I agree 100%. I'm sure we do the same thing. I hope we keep doing it.

Perhaps if Israel was willing to go to the table and talk to them like humans, the situation would have resolved itself long ago. It is all about observing some cultural sensitivity, and it wasn't. They just went in, with the Imperialists' enforcer standing behind them with menacing nukes, and said, "GTFO, this is ours now" If you were the Palestinians, how would you have felt?

Now, I agree that the parallels with Native Americans are uncanny. But one key difference is, in the end America has provided a decent life for most Natives (despite how bad we screwed them over in the beginning...when we were actually the Imperialists). The Israeli's never even tried to work with the Palestinians. The backlash is obvious, and was imminent.

So yes, over aggression was a tactic that was used by Israel to back itself into a corner.....and was/is left as about the only real option short of ceding half the country to Palestine.

I don't like that things are the way they are but I can't afford to pretend they aren't.

If you don't like things the way they are, the first step to changing that is to stop doing the things that got you there.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

It's not the Israel or the Israeli people who call for the total annihilation of Palestine or the Palestinians, and Israel has always come to the table and talked to them but that just makes them laugh, think them weak, and continue to seek their destruction. How many concessions has Israel made, and how many more should they?

Who took what land from whom? Who created the state of Israel and why? Who was there at that time exactly? Jordan was created as a Palestinian state. Why wont any of the surrounding Arab countries offer them asylum. Why shouldn't Syria or Lebanon or Jordan or Saudi Arabia give them some land? Were the Palestinians ever anything but wandering tribesman? Would you let someone committed to your death move into half your house and think your children safe?

There will never be peace in the middle east. The Arabs (not all) don't want peace. Do you think Israel would attack anyone if left alone?

Originally posted by McGinty
At what point did the innocent people, the families, women and children of the Pacific Islands declare '…War with the world"

You mean the Japanese? I don't think too many were complaining about how the war was going in 1941-42. Why would they? Their military just kicked major ass in the Pacific. Captured thousands in Bataan. They weren't shedding tears when those POWs were being beheaded, or Chinese civilians murdered, or Filipinos being tortured. The "Greater Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere" was well on it's way to coming true, and the Japanese were gonna be on top with everyone else in Asia being their lackies or slaves.

They were singing a different tune when B-29 were setting fire to their homes. Sorry about that.

Originally posted by shogun12
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

 

It's not the Israel or the Israeli people who call for the total annihilation of Palestine or the Palestinians, and Israel has always come to the table and talked to them but that just makes them laugh, think them weak, and continue to seek their destruction. How many concessions has Israel made, and how many more should they?

Who took what land from whom? Who created the state of Israel and why? Who was there at that time exactly? Jordan was created as a Palestinian state. Why wont any of the surrounding Arab countries offer them asylum. Why shouldn't Syria or Lebanon or Jordan or Saudi Arabia give them some land? Were the Palestinians ever anything but wandering tribesman? Would you let someone committed to your death move into half your house and think your children safe?

There will never be peace in the middle east. The Arabs (not all) don't want peace. Do you think Israel would attack anyone if left alone?

Israel never existed in modern times until after WWII, when we for some reason decided to kick people out of Palestine, tell them it was no longer Palestine, and then moved in a bunch of Europeans and Russians (they didn't really want the Russians, and eventually put a stop to that....the Russian Jews were poor and unwelcome).

You call Palestinians "wandering tribesman"....and that only seems to be a way to remove any legitimacy from their claim to their home. And when you say "share half your home"....remember who was kicked out.

I understand we "created' Jordan for the Palestinians....do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? So you just arbitrarily made another country so the folks you kicked out would have a place to go...nice. The Indians may have fallen for that crap, but the Palestinians are obviously a little more wise and willing to fight.

And this willingness to fight....this is what you think is bad? Is Israel not also showing a willingness to fight that is iwdely considered heroic? Well....what of the Palestinian struggle? And does it really surprise you that people got mad about being displaced? How many stories have we heard, from time immemorial, about strangers in a strange land being treated harshly by the natives?

And when you say the Israeli's have come to the bargaining table....was then during one of the times that they bulldozed Palestinan homes to make way for Jewish settlements? How would you feel about that if your home was dozed? And you were forced off THAT land as well, and pushed into the least desirable parts of what used to be your nation?

It may not be the Israeli people that do it....and I am not disputing that. Governments are evil entities that ruin our world.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


Well you seem like a reasonable guy and its too bad we can't agree, I appreciate your willingness to discuss issue but I don't think we'll get anywhere.

The actual situation over there, and I have been there BTW, is not exactly as you describe or how it's presented by the media but we, meaning the US did not create Israel. I don't know if you meant that or if you meant 'we the western world'. It was created after the war as you said.

I digress though and I am obviously on the side of Israel where I'll always b. I'd have to do actual research to say more on the subject that was meaningful and I'm not that interested. : ) I like you prefer peace, but I don't see it as possible in that situation or anywhere really and without getting into a discussion on religion, I really can't say anything else about it.

Thanks and I like your posts, too many people on here troll and flame and never try and discuss anything really.

reply to post by TKDRL


IF they refuse. They refuse, then we can do that. Just hang 'em on a tree or a lamp post or a building as a sign.