Day care rampage caught on tape 9-year-old's reign of terror

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
reply to post by My.mind.is.mine

 

Nine or nineteen doesn't matter, he is still a product of his parents. My 9 year old would absolutely NEVER act as this child, but he does have parents that love him, care for him, and TEACH him right from wrong. Go ahead and continue blaming everyone but the parents.

What medications is he on?

So which is it EVERY child NEEDS to be on medication or is the the medication poisoning their children? You say people trust their doctors and the medicine yet this is the same stuff that you say poisons and corrupts and alleviates parental responsibility for a child's behavior.

Now do not mistake me, there are cases where medication is required, but not every single child on this planet needs to be medicated.

You misunderstand me, I'm saying that THEY trust their doctors, and take the meds, which poison the children. I'm not saying I trust it....

reply to post by riffraff


Learned Helplessness

I think that explains it pretty well.

MOTF!

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine


Then do we or do we not agree that the parents are at fault for the behavior of this child?

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
reply to post by My.mind.is.mine

 

Then do we or do we not agree that the parents are at fault for the behavior of this child?

Funny, I never said the parents weren't to blame. I said it wasn't good for people to label the parents low lifes, and other derogatory terms when they really know nothing of their situation.

But yes, the parents do hold the responsibility.

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That is all I am trying to convey, yet society will blame everyone but them.

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
reply to post by My.mind.is.mine

 

That is all I am trying to convey, yet society will blame everyone but them.

I hope you're not choosing to ignore other factors though. Attacks on the mind are more effective on some people than others. The parents are ultimately in charge, as this boy is only 9 years old....

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wow! the part where the animal was hurt and didn't escape sounds alot like stockholm syndrome..i think you're right..they were told they will never be anything and they chose to accept it...

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine


I do acknowledge that there very well could be other contributing factors, but the fact is that in lower income families there tend to be more children than they can care for. So the resources (time, money, affection) tend to be in more limited quantities. So the child will display this type of behavior because he is for the most part neglected.

While I cannot say for sure that everything I listed above is in fact true in this instance, I can attest to it be true in how I was raised. My mother never worked, married guys that never worked. She had 5 of us and we never had a pot to piss in. At one point we were living in the back of a pick-up. We would park under bridges at night. We kids were sent into grocery stores to steal what food we could. She tried to milk the system for everything that she could.

Looking back on my past I absolutely blame my mother, she was too damned lazy to get off her ass and get a job, she was hardly ever around to "raise" us. She was irresponsible for having as many of us as she did. I use my childhood as a guide marker on how to NOT raise my children.

Of my siblings only myself and one my sisters (only sibling that is my full blood) are actually NOT perpetuating the same life style as my mother. The others have more children than they can handle, milk the system, do not have jobs, are involved in drug use, Their children are absolutely horrible to be around. I do not blame the water, nor do I blame the TV for their situation or behavior.

I grew up on the same state that this crap happened in. Mississippi

reply to post by MessOnTheFED!


First off, even if daycare workers don't know how the injury happened, it needs to be documented.

And if more than one injury shows up in a week among the class, the licensing board needs to be notified.

By the looks of that kid, he will be killing the neighbors pets in about 2 years, and will be killing prostitutes in 10.

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It is probably borderline disorder.

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Then you throw in the fact that its mostly children having children and thats all they have ever known since birth. Its not hard to understand why things are like they are, but it is definitely a hard cycle to break. You could quit giving handouts, but when you take away someones perception of existing, and try to get them to do something for themselves, most of the time they will become angry. Angry because of change. Angry because its easier to merely exist rather than excel. In turn, the people looking in from the outside become angry because all they see is "lazy, trashy people who wont get a job", but the "lazy, trashy people" are just doing what they have been programmed to do.

MOTF!

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I agree that every injury needs to be documented in a daycare. Ive gone to pick up my daughter at her daycare before and was met at the door with her teacher wanting me to sign a paper because she sustained an injury. (rug burn). I was pleased with that actually. That they went out of their way to let me know.

The daycare needs to do things like that to cover their own butts. As for the 9 year old, I think he needs a lot of counceling to get to the root of the problem. If it doesnt happen, I'm afraid he WILL be killing animals in 2 years and prostitutes in 10 years. Very sad.

MOTF!

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by MessOnTheFED!

 

By the looks of that kid, he will be killing the neighbors pets in about 2 years, and will be killing prostitutes in 10.

I agree with this. Watching the video of this child in action it was pretty clear that he'd make sure nobody was watching him before attacking the other children. I'm no expert but that would seem to be a decent enough indicator that he knew what he was doing was wrong. So labeling his behavior as not knowing right from wrong in my opinion would be inaccurate. That of course doesn't explain why, if he knew what he was doing was wrong, did he continually do it. And that is the scary part of the whole thing.

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I believe 100% that he knew what he was doing was wrong. You dont look areound to see if anyone is watching if you dont know right from wrong. What astonishes me is the fact that the daycare worker was clearly very close to what was happening and somehow didn't notice. Didnt notice or didnt care enough to stop it. Both are unacceptable.

MOTF!

Someone else asked it and I want to know too: why is a 9 yo in with toddlers?

I am guessing that the daycare owner and the parents know each other and are in an arrangement.

reply to post by MessOnTheFED!


Children are a reflection of self! in other words Children mimic the actions of the Parents Or people raising them.
This is not Completly the childs fault for acting in this manner, But clearly has issues that are deep rooted already, (Due to the fact He is sneaky & smart enough to make sure no body is looking before he assults the other kids)
The State (DSHS) need to do a complete investigation of this childs home life.

The childcare worker in the day care needs some retraining IMO, But Childcare workers also have a alot of responsibilty on them, Was she watching all these children on her own? looks like there where at least 10 kids under her supervision. 1 adult , 10 kids= FAIL..

And lastly Why in the world was this 9 year old with 3-4 year olds?????

OMG I am appalled I can't believe what I just saw. More people with kids need to see this... If I ever have kids they are never going to day care. I am not knocking the ppl who have to put their kids in daycare but the way that people are today you just can't trust anyone. It is so sad to see a 9 year old beating up a baby.

reply to post by scrtsxcgirl


It is very sad. But as I have said in a previous post. Not all daycares are like this one. Some, I suspect, are in it for the money, but some are in it because the owners actually love children and the money is just a bonus for doing something they love. It is up to the parent to choose wisely and if they see any negative changes in their childs demeanor they should seek answers immediately. Turnover rate at daycares is a key clue as to how the place is run and how the children are treated.

MOTF!

reply to post by MessOnTheFED!


I agree with you I know there are good daycares out there. I am just still in shock.... This needs more flags and stars...

reply to post by scrtsxcgirl


I know how you feel. I saw this last night and tried to make a thread about it then, but I couldn't. I was too insane with anger at the time. Thank you for the input though.

MOTF!