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Originally posted by gncnew
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama is creating a new office to bolster education of African-American students.
The White House says the office will coordinate the work of communities and federal agencies to ensure that African-American youngsters are better prepared for high school, college and career.
Obama is announcing his election-year initiative Wednesday night in a speech to the civil rights group the National Urban League as he seeks to rally black voters. Aides say his executive order, to be signed Thursday, will set a goal of producing "a more effective continuum" of programs for African-American students.
AP Source
Seriously? I was unaware that the tax dollars paid by ALL citizens of the United States could be used in special programs and newly created offices for only a specific minority group. Maybe that's because black people are incapable of being racist?
This is a blatent attempt by Obama to try and regain support among the black community - but it's just plane wrong. There are many disadvantaged white and Hispanic kids in the US. There are a great deal of non-black kids who are not ready for High School, drop out early, and struggle in the class room.
I guess because there is no "National White Kids Association" to pander votes from, they just get left behind?
This is honestly pretty despicable. Black people should be just as offended - being pandered to, in an election year, should make you mad that anyone thinks you're that stupid.
We want to end racism and racial inequality? Then you can't focus on things like "a more effective continuum" of programs for African-American students"
How about a more effective continuum for ALL students Mr. President... but again, I guess as the first black POTUS, he's only the POTUS of black Americans.... sad... especially since I voted for him.edit on 26-7-2012 by gncnew because: (no reason given)edit on 26-7-2012 by gncnew because: (no reason given)
Any "goodies" tucked away in this ??
Originally posted by openlocks
Originally posted by gncnew
Originally posted by Zarniwoop
reply to post by gncnew
The President does things for ALL Americans, not just one ethnic group of them.
I don't see why helping ethnic groups, in a specific category such as education, that statistically show the need for assistance is any different than say, helping people with disabilities get good parking spots at the local grocer.
There are very few methods to make changes that benefit ALL Americans, short of maybe sending a check for 500.00 to everyone in the country. Part of being a leader is understanding that the majority of your decisions will make some happy and some not so happy. If I'm not mistaken, you appear to be in the latter group on this issue.
Do I support Obama? Yes...Until he is out of office in January. I'd hate to see Biden as Pres.
Do I support an ever-expanding government? No
Do I think this EO shows racism... nope.
Do I think Obama is cheating the system by using an EO for campaign purposes? OH, hell yeah!
edit on 26-7-2012 by Zarniwoop because: spelling
I guess - to me - anytime we define a specific ethnic group as needing special assistance - we're inherently defining a weakness that is there by ethnicity as well.
Disabilities, socio-economic status, education level, etc are all race-neutral conditions that can effect any American.
But to define a program this way is nothing short of Jim Crowe policies. The fact that a black man is implementing them does not make them any less wrong.
LOL, you're really trying to play like you're Mr. Stand Against Racism? LOL!!!!!!!!
I guess - to me - when a specific ethnic group has been historically targeted by pathological murders, oppressors and exploiters, they might just need a hand to stand back up. Of course, I'm sure Mr. Superman that you are, imagine you could fight 1000 UFC fighters and walk away unscathed. We, back here in reality, though think you're just delusional.
Originally posted by openlocks
Did Obama do this to "rally Black voters"? Of course, imo, he did. Does he really care about Black people, no, imo, he doesn't. But I don't think you guys understand how big the achievement gap is between Black and White kids. It is not just a problem to be dealt with, it is an epidemic that MUST be addressed NOW!
92% of White kids graduate high school and 84% go on to post-secondary schooling.
53% of Black kids graduate high school and only 9% go on to post-secondary schooling.
These are national averages. Do you see how big of a gap that is!? Now what do you think happens when you have 47% of a certain demographic of kids not graduating high school? You get 41% of Black males ending up in jail, more than 1 in 3. And what happens when you have 91% of a certain demographic of kids not entering into post-secondary schooling, in a society that demands such a thing? You get an entire demographic subjugated to poverty for generations to come with a majority under-employed and/or unemployed. You get statistics like, less than 2% of small business owners with more than 5 full-time employees on payroll in the US are Black. This leads to the further widening of social/economic gaps.
Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Just saying.edit on 26-7-2012 by openlocks because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LastProphet527
lmaf, and lol...ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the WHITE presidents that looked after all its white people for the last 100 years plus, and now... its a problem with a black president looking out for the black populace for a change.
3 years out of 400 years, like…are you serious with this cry baby BS thread.
Originally posted by openlocks
So then how can you sit there and even half-way seriously say something like, "they need to get there s#%t together."? Why don't you go and volunteer your time at a Boys and Girls Club or something instead of sitting around on your privileged butt and judging other people who've lived a life uncomprehendable to you? And I know you it is uncomprehensable to you because if you had any kind of idea of what these people have gone through you would not be spending your time criticism them, rather you would be running to help them!
Peace out, from a now overly angry commenter! LOL...
Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
Anything that helps the black youth of America is a good thing, in my opinion. Good for the entire nation.
Originally posted by gncnew
Originally posted by openlocks
So then how can you sit there and even half-way seriously say something like, "they need to get there s#%t together."? Why don't you go and volunteer your time at a Boys and Girls Club or something instead of sitting around on your privileged butt and judging other people who've lived a life uncomprehendable to you? And I know you it is uncomprehensable to you because if you had any kind of idea of what these people have gone through you would not be spending your time criticism them, rather you would be running to help them!
Peace out, from a now overly angry commenter! LOL...
Just an FYI - I have and do volunteer my time tutoring at risk, majority black, kids in my local community - specifically in reading because it's so vital.
I've got no agenda, but I care not for a President who makes policy that is ethnic specific. Doesn't matter which ethnicity.
Originally posted by gncnew
Originally posted by LastProphet527
lmaf, and lol...ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the WHITE presidents that looked after all its white people for the last 100 years plus, and now... its a problem with a black president looking out for the black populace for a change.
3 years out of 400 years, like…are you serious with this cry baby BS thread.
Wait, so are you saying that years of injustice now affirm and/or justify further injustice? Curious you would bring up past events as if they some how justify current events.
This is wrong, you can bring up any past events you wish, but they dont justify a current president enacting racist policies.
The "oppressed" have the capability of being racists just as easily as their previous oppressors.
Wait, so are you saying that years of injustice now affirm and/or justify further injustice? Curious you would bring up past events as if they some how justify current events.
Originally posted by gncnew
Originally posted by openlocks
So then how can you sit there and even half-way seriously say something like, "they need to get there s#%t together."? Why don't you go and volunteer your time at a Boys and Girls Club or something instead of sitting around on your privileged butt and judging other people who've lived a life uncomprehendable to you? And I know you it is uncomprehensable to you because if you had any kind of idea of what these people have gone through you would not be spending your time criticism them, rather you would be running to help them!
Peace out, from a now overly angry commenter! LOL...
Just an FYI - I have and do volunteer my time tutoring at risk, majority black, kids in my local community - specifically in reading because it's so vital.
I've got no agenda, but I care not for a President who makes policy that is ethnic specific. Doesn't matter which ethnicity.
Originally posted by dakota1s2
reply to post by gncnew
What made you vote for him? Hope and Change? This rant is not about you but a group of people who either don't care or just plain ignorant.
Simper Fi
Originally posted by LastProphet527
Originally posted by gncnew
Originally posted by LastProphet527
lmaf, and lol...ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the WHITE presidents that looked after all its white people for the last 100 years plus, and now... its a problem with a black president looking out for the black populace for a change.
3 years out of 400 years, like…are you serious with this cry baby BS thread.
Wait, so are you saying that years of injustice now affirm and/or justify further injustice? Curious you would bring up past events as if they some how justify current events.
This is wrong, you can bring up any past events you wish, but they dont justify a current president enacting racist policies.
The "oppressed" have the capability of being racists just as easily as their previous oppressors.
Wait, so are you saying that years of injustice now affirm and/or justify further injustice? Curious you would bring up past events as if they some how justify current events.
'''shaking head left to right''' past events-justify current events.
I am............im ..........umm.............just; I guess...........im.................................hmmm............................................................................................... ..................................................................................Speechless.
im so speechless and confused......im going to bed.edit on 26-7-2012 by LastProphet527 because: (no reason given)
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Originally posted by openlocks
Hey, I'm with you on the President. Don't care for him, and that's putting it nicely. But I'd be careful spouting your racist diatribe around those "black kids" who you are supposedly helping. Oh, I know, you're NOT racist... and the Sun is a giant orange.
Why not use your energy to spout your anger at the real racist policies that oppress Black people, like the unethical loaning practices that Realspoke described, or the Drug War, or the justice system that is seemingly acting as a staff-employer for the prison industry? No... those couldn't be the real racist policy's now could they? It's the dedicating a small percentage of tax payers money towards educating the most disadvantaged kids in America which is MOST racist, isn't that right!? (sarcasm ended)
Yawn... time to go play with some ignoramouses somewhere else, you're too easy.
Originally posted by DCLXVI
reply to post by gncnew
This is like saying Obama is only the President of U.S soldiers for creating a council that will better deal with PTS.
Originally posted by LastProphet527
'''shaking head left to right''' past events-justify current events.
I am............im ..........umm.............just; I guess...........im.................................hmmm............................................................................................... ..................................................................................Speechless.
im so speechless and confused......im going to bed.edit on 26-7-2012 by LastProphet527 because: (no reason given)
Let me help since you're having a hard time:
You said:
lmaf, and lol...ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the WHITE presidents that looked after all its white people for the last 100 years plus, and now... its a problem with a black president looking out for the black populace for a change. 3 years out of 400 years, like…are you serious with this cry baby BS thread.
This statement seems to indicate that you feel because of previous oppression and/or wrongs, it's morally, or principally wrong to now criticize a decision made by a president that is made upon the same premise as previous wrongs.
To which I then replied:
Wait, so are you saying that years of injustice now affirm and/or justify further injustice? Curious you would bring up past events as if they some how justify current events.
Meaning that I completely disagree with the assertion that the obviously race-oriented policy decision discussed in this post is wrong and counter to the American belief and system that is in place today.
You presumed that a real or perceived relationship between things means that one is the cause of the other. But more importantly you feel that one justified the other... I assume you can vote, and thus, sadly we're all doomed.
Originally posted by DCLXVI
Originally posted by gncnew
Originally posted by openlocks
So then how can you sit there and even half-way seriously say something like, "they need to get there s#%t together."? Why don't you go and volunteer your time at a Boys and Girls Club or something instead of sitting around on your privileged butt and judging other people who've lived a life uncomprehendable to you? And I know you it is uncomprehensable to you because if you had any kind of idea of what these people have gone through you would not be spending your time criticism them, rather you would be running to help them!
Peace out, from a now overly angry commenter! LOL...
Just an FYI - I have and do volunteer my time tutoring at risk, majority black, kids in my local community - specifically in reading because it's so vital.
I've got no agenda, but I care not for a President who makes policy that is ethnic specific. Doesn't matter which ethnicity.
Using your logic i would say you are racist against white people for tutoring black kids in majorityedit on 26-7-2012 by DCLXVI because: (no reason given)