Tracking New Quake Swarm- Just started at Yellowstone

Originally posted by tluna1
reply to post by Yngvarr

 

YOu know i was looking this gas smell up and in May 2011 and Aug 2011 In San Diego they had this same smell and couldnt figure out what it was.
really weird.


ps. were there any earthquakes or anything in that area around aug of last year?

edit on 25-7-2012 by tluna1 because: more info

ps.ps. well i just answere my own question 4.2 earthquake last aug in San Franciso

can anyone tell me if this means anything?

edit on 25-7-2012 by tluna1 because: more info

There have been very strange smells here as well as of late.

Oh wait, it's half the new puppy and half me after all the beans for dinner.

Originally posted by jaxnmarko
reply to post by TrueAmerican

 

I've posted here a number of times about Yellowstone earthquakes.......... I've lived here for over 30 years (due south by the Tetons, under 100 miles from Old Faithful) and every now and then there are posts about the quakes...... They Happens Every Single Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some a bit bigger, some smaller, some swarms.... but seriously folks....... It's YELLOWSTONE! A giant geothermally active area that has earthquakes by the minute, day in and day out. It's one thing to look at a recent graph, but it's another to compare it over years and years.... and we do get that data here in Jackson. We have seismographs all over the area here in the Greater Yellowstone area. It's No Big Deal, it's really just Business As Usual for this area. Locally? No news on strange events or unusual earthquakes. Just Another Day in earthquake country in Northwest Wyoming, where we measure travel by the hours, not the miles, and tiny earthquakes by the hundreds.

Exactly. He's just looking for validation. Sheesh.

Well what great timing. The microswarm appears to have fizzled out, as expected- but the haters still gonna hate. So it's a perfect time for me to vacate this thread- unless more start occurring again... But activity has pretty much ceased for the last hours, except for a few minute fidgets.

I dunno know why people have to have something negative to say, especially when it contributes nothing to the topic. Nada. Zilcho. Hey, I reported the story from a non-hyped perspective and I brought professional opinion into the thread with the foremost authority on the volcano, the YVO Scientist In Charge. I am happy with my part on reporting this story. But maybe I should have done more. Maybe if it erupts and I finally just jump down into the thing and explode, they'll all be happy!

My cousin posted on facebook, that she just experienced an earthquake, in Los Angeles, Today, at 3:30 a.m. PST. Not sure if that's relevant?

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Well what great timing. The microswarm appears to have fizzled out, as expected- but the haters still gonna hate. So it's a perfect time for me to vacate this thread- unless more start occurring again... But activity has pretty much ceased for the last hours, except for a few minute fidgets.

I dunno know why people have to have something negative to say, especially when it contributes nothing to the topic. Nada. Zilcho. Hey, I reported the story from a non-hyped perspective and I brought professional opinion into the thread with the foremost authority on the volcano, the YVO Scientist In Charge. I am happy with my part on reporting this story. But maybe I should have done more. Maybe if it erupts and I finally just jump down into the thing and explode, they'll all be happy!

I'm not a hater, I was just pointing out the obvious. YS is sitting on top of a HUGE pocket of magma and as such shake, rattle, and roll is the norm. 1.5's are the norm. When you see a rise in ground level THEN let us know. Or SERIOUS increases in gas emmisions. Short of that, the caldera is doing what it's been doing for 10's of thousands of years. (Oh, and yes, there are vulcanologists that monitor the area 24x7).

reply to post by Yosemite Sam


Well, when we get people that live by Yellowstone posting regular updates like trueamerican does, then we can be sure that we are getting information straight from the area. But that has not happened.

You can't fault true American for doing what he does best, and what few here do...monitoring the situation and contributing on ATS to keep us up to date.

I look forward to your scientific posts about the matter in the future. But won't count on it.

Thanks TA.

Originally posted by CloseEncounter
reply to post by Yosemite Sam

 

Well, when we get people that live by Yellowstone posting regular updates like trueamerican does, then we can be sure that we are getting information straight from the area. But that has not happened.

You can't fault true American for doing what he does best, and what few here do...monitoring the situation and contributing on ATS to keep us up to date.

I look forward to your scientific posts about the matter in the future. But won't count on it.

Thanks TA.

If comments on 1.0 earth tremors are your idea of scientific, I wouldn't count on it either.

Dont spoil it for the rest of us...

Many people here enjoy reading TA's findings...

Its the few like TA that make ATS still worth coming to...

Oh wait I see... This wasnt a batman thread... Thats why you hate...

TA you forgot to tell them the part about the swarm being caused by the collapse
of the Batcave... Explosives left by James Holmes in the earths core clearly caused this...

Or was it batman who left the explosives? Batman was trying to Frame Holmes...
Dun dun dun

I would rather read about this swarm than see the 11 millionth batman thread!

reply to post by EvolEric


12 mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, spouses, dead. nice post.

Originally posted by Yosemite Sam
reply to post by EvolEric

 

12 mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, spouses, dead. nice post.

And no one else has died in the world since then? Should we enshrine these people?

People die. Happens all the time. Do I need to pull up other examples of people dying in much larger numbers that is not even talked about on the news?

Either post about the subject or find another thread that tickles your fancy.

Discussing each other will result in post removals from here on out.

Thanks.

I like a good tickling!

Speaking of tickling...

I fully believe this swarm being due to a good tickling to the earth...

In the form of a Japanese Volcano exploding

*Sigh!*
So much energy wasted on negativity!
The more things change, the more they stay the same!

TA we appreciate all your hard work & observing!!!
Human beings are an arrogant lot!
And I've noticed that people get more cranky & testy when there are good-sized earthquakes going on.
(Or maybe it just flushes that type out in the open!) There have been 3, 6's in less than 30 hours!
I believe it was before the the twin 8's in April that it got really 'staticy' around here!

Being informed & keeping both eyes open is NOT fear mongering!
Humans do not know everything about anything, including volcanoes.
Our little spit of time on this planet, even the whole of recorded seismicity is nothing in the cycle of Yellowstone.
We just do NOT know what is normal & what is not. What if it's on a cycle of 1,000 swarms? 999 times it's nothing, but the 1,000th is the precursor to large inflation?

Do people not remember anything about Mount St Helens?

en.wikipedia.org...

SOURCE: Wikipedia

Oh, yeah! There were even nay sayers right up to the last minute, even with all the increasing activity!
Fifty seven people died there. Including a photographer & a geologist!
Some of the people were too stubborn to leave, some didn't believe it would get worse!
The USGS had to 'persuade' them to close it & leave it closed! They were getting pressured to reopen it!
"Nothing unusual to see here folks, move along." Famous, famous, last words!!!

There's a big difference between, Be aware! and Beware! Some people around here aren't proficient readers apparently!!!

Okay, rant over! Must be an '8' coming yet, usually I'm just 'observing quietly'!!!!
WOQ

thanks for keeping us posted...nice low key thread,,,no o0ne is panicking over this.....probably means nothing but glad someone is keeping track..

Originally posted by Yosemite Sam

(Oh, and yes, there are vulcanologists that monitor the area 24x7).

Why do you speak of that which you know nothing about? In off hours there are only pages that are sent out to scientists for quakes 3+. It would not cover lower level long period events that don't key the auto pager. I know these things from conversations with scientists. Not from conversations with wannabe's.

This person has now lost all credibility folks. Disregard. You want the truth? I research truth. And bring it back to my friends. Thanks for your support, friends, and don't pay any attention to losers who couldn't research their way out of a paper bag.

And maybe perhaps that's why Jake just wrote me back again thanking me for helping them to plug this little hole they have with the auto alert situation?

And oh: update. More activity has happened. Looks like these microquakes could go on. I still think they are somewhat shallow, and I still don't understand how they are tied to tectonic faults, being so shallow, and being so persistent. That is something I need more information on.

i think it's a rule at ATS that once you pass a certain number of stars and flags SOMEONE has to accuse you of fear mongering for attention to gain stars and flags..... and that useless "you're fear mongering" post will get them their own stars


i appreciate the information outside of the main YS post.... because i don't check each of those main threads on a daily basis. i don't know a lot about YS but a swarm in that area seems like it's certainly worth discussing. hopefully it will pass but the way things have been going lately i wouldn't brush it off as nothing right away.

well, i for one thank TA for keeping a eye on things, being ys is right in my back yard so to speak (few hours away) i'm glad someone is keeping up with it.
ya know its the eeriest feeling when you drop down the rim into the crater that is yellowstone. really makes ya realize just how small you are.

reply to post by pasiphae


Well here's some more info, which is starting to answer some questions for me and also correct some misperceptions I had about previous swarms in that spot near Hebgen. Of course we are only now just finding out the exact epicenter locations of the recent microquakes, seeing as UU has now started posting these latest events at the UU site:

www.seis.utah.edu...

They've made it up to the 2.3, which is probably the first bigger one I saw among the first smaller ones- prompting me to send the mail to alert persistent activity. But there are probably another 20 to 30 more, yet to be counted, and as Jake pointed out, many won't get counted due to lack of enough quality.

The microquakes are occurring from super shallow to just 6.6 km deep or so. So I was correct in perceiving that from the signatures. No doubt they are shallow, although I was cautioned about depths from my contacts who point out that at Yellowstone there is only the ability to resolve depths down to around a 2 km margin of error. And that large margin of error, I will point out, is actually quite a bit better than many other worldly locations when quakes happen, due to sheer lack of instruments. In fact in the US, it has to be arguably one of the most instrument covered volcanoes there is. They have quite a bit at LV too, and possibly more, not sure.

They sent me a map of previous swarms, with 30 events or more, compiled by Jamie Farrell and company at UU, released in 2009. So this would not include the Madison Plateau swarm of 2010, or any swarms after 2009.



Each one of those black dots represents a swarm LOCATION, not the actual quakes. And as you can see, the current location of this swarm is close to another area that had swarms before... So I won't be making that mistake again...I hope. Funny thing is, I have seen this already, long time ago, just forgot. Too much info to retain when I am also into many other subjects here at ATS. They also point out:

Rocks can break at any depth. If you look at CA earthquakes today, you'll see lots that are less than 10 km and some

Note: New repetitive seismicity (small) detected now with first arrivals near Mary Lake. Estimated 1.5 ML or so first, then a second sub 1.5, and now a third sub 1.5. This in the last couple hours. I really hope we don't get a swarm in that part of "town"...too close to the resurgent domes for comfort. To be clear, this is not the same area as the Hebgen swarm in the OP, just didn't feel like starting another thread.

I don't care if swarms like this are considered "normal," I still want to know about it. I can understand how people that live in the region could become complaisant to these occurrences, but that still doesn't mean that people shouldn't pay attention to them.

I live in tornado alley, and my part of the world often gets severe storms every Spring and mid-Fall. We had a decent outbreak of tornadoes back in April, but people still brush off bad weather because the sirens go off several times a season without anything really happening. Not me, though. I'd much rather go to the trouble of getting everything in the closet (we don't have a basement) 100 times than not do it once and it cost me my life.

To me this is just like people ignoring the severe storm sirens. The odds are good nothing will come out of this swarm, but why risk ignoring it? I'm not saying that every person that lives around YS should stop their lives the second one thing happens (that would be silly and you'd just be better off moving far away with that motto), but I also think it would be incredibly foolish to fully brush it off because it has happened a million times before without incident. When she finally blows it will have worldwide consequences. It won't be some random tornado or flood in some part of the US. I would hate for any lives to be lost simply due to the fact that people thought something was business as usual and that they shouldn't worry about it.

So with having said all of that, I would like to thank TA for the incredible attention paid to YS and things like it. I've learned so much from reading your threads and I hope you continue with them in the future.