Nobody has the right to take another Human Life not even in Self Defense

It says if you take another life then you will take away upon you the sins of that person.

It doesn't matter how many crimes that person has, may have millions of crimes all of them will fall on those who took the life of that criminal...and he will go to Heaven.

Therefore never achieved a balance between the two worlds because always remain unpaid policies from generation to generation.

The balance declines every day and never figure out why and...we can feel that.This is one of the reason why the balcony of Heaven is empty.So sorry for this but this the truth,nothing beautiful to see here on Earth.

Nobody has the right to take another Human Life not even in Self Defense...because there is the patience without sin.

But we never have that patience.

The patience without a sin is of the sinner without them knowing it,patience is the sinless lamb.

But sometimes that patience is comming to an end.

...and that end could be almost......Here.

It all depends on you.

And you are basing this way of looking at the universe and life overall based on something you read?

Lets hope you are never in a situation that requires you to fight for your life.

I doubt you will sit back and let yourself be murdered, regardless of what ever indoctrination you have been subjected to.

Originally posted by CesarO
And you are basing this way of looking at the universe and life overall based on something you read?

I didn't read something about it....... I can feel it,.the tuth.

murder is natural. happens numerous times daily.

reply to post by diamondoftheworld


No...you were indoctrinated by your parents, or turned to religion as a crutch.

No sane person would believe self defence is wrong.

reply to post by diamondoftheworld

It says if you take another life then you will take away upon you the sins of that person.

Who or what says?

Where do you get you information?

If you honestly and truly believe this to your core, like the Quakers, then I respect the heck out of it. It takes more strength to take THAT position and stick to it through a real test than to take mine...where I'll simply kill before being killed.

Personally, I'm very comfortable with what I know to be judging me at the end of things and before the cycle starts over and it's back here to give it another whirl. I even go so far as to say that death by lack of defense is suicide by omission of action. Suicide, to my beliefs, is the ultimate and most egregious of the sins. I'll keep my means and intent to defend.

I won't call you wrong though. Not if the beliefs are sincere and not conditional or situational. Everyone has different values and lines in life.

I am coming at you with a knife, screaming "I am going to kill you!". You stand there and let me thrust it deep into your chest over and over again in fear of striking back because you are unwilling to kill another person under proper cercimstance.

This is diplorable for any species that has ever evolved ever. Ever hear of survival of the fittest? If you stand their and take it, you and your genes are history. Goodbye baby. And if you trully think thats for the best, I am deeply saddened for you.

Originally posted by diamondoftheworld

It says if you take another life then you will take away upon you the sins of that person.

It all depends on you.

So what does that mean exactly that could override the fact that I'm still alive?

I understand patience all too well, but to put that as a higher priority than staying alive is a bit much for me.

reply to post by diamondoftheworld


So basically you're saying it's an uneducated gut-reaction? You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. If I had taken advice like that I would have died 20 times over by now. So by your definition all the people that have tried to kill me in my service have been exhonerated merely because I stopped them? I do not know what it is that you're on, but I am certain of this: It must be very good.

reply to post by loves a conspiricy

TextI doubt you will sit back and let yourself be murdered, regardless of what ever indoctrination you have been subjected to.

Things are more complicated then you can realise,should have an overview of all how many there are and how many have been throughout history

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin
murder is natural.

Between humans?

When there are people dying for no good reason someone has to stand in the way and stop them even if it means taking their life. If we don't they will keep going, all these pointless deaths and wars will continue unless we unite and put past our insignificant differences to extinguish the evil that looms before us.

reply to post by loves a conspiricy

No sane person would believe self defence is wrong.

Depends on what level you look at the problem .

reply to post by diamondoftheworld


This isn't even remotely scriptural in my books. It also doesn't make any sense at all. You don't take the sins of another onto yourself, we are only responsible for what we do. The only exception to the rule was Christ and he was our Passover Lamb.

reply to post by windword

Where do you get you information?

I am the information.

reply to post by diamondoftheworld


Yup, he is partially right. It is perfectly natural for a human to kill another human while in a state of rage. What's unnatural is for someone to kill another without being in a state of rage. Servicemen commit the latter on a regular basis. That sustained desire to kill is what seperates modern military training from the old-school sort. It's been proven that it works too. It was said that on Iwo Jima, only 40% of the Marines there actually fired their rifles. Compare that to nowadays.....well....very obvious difference there. Modern marines have a close to 95% firing rate and among those that fire, the hit rate has gone up exponentially as well.

reply to post by xXxinfidelxXx

to kill me in my service have been exhonerated merely because I stopped them?

If you just stopped them without harm them then is okay.

reply to post by AaronWilson


If survival of the fittest were still the way of humanity, people like him would've died off a long time ago.