7/21/2012 -- FBI theater attack warning issued on May 17, 2012

reply to post by quedup


What I find most interesting about this case is that Holmes was in the process of withdrawing mid-term from his University and that he went to allot of trouble to collect the appropriate attire, weapons and even booby trapped his apartment. He worked out the details of his attack and may have even had an accomplice to help him get into the theater unnoticed.

It seems quite apparent that this was planned several weeks in advance. There must be some material and circumstantial foundation, a witness or two that will emerge as the investigation winds up.

I would consider theories along the lines of some obsession with an antisocial ideology or something along those lines. I find it unlikely that someone with his potential would crack on account of being jobless. Something anomalous got into him.

Another factor that is quite odd, is that he didn't commit suicide after this horrific act. The propensity for suicide after such an event is statistically prominent. If he were suicidal, he would have taken his own life on the scene, but instead returned to his vehicle where he was arrested without resistance in the parking lot.

I'm looking for a message in all of this, although I can't imagine exactly what that might be.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by ChaoticOrder

 

And besides all that, if one was inclined to take out a lot of people, then a crowded place is obvious.

Then a dark, noisy cinema is even more obvious, really.

It doesn't take a criminal mastermind of evil government entity to come up with a plan to go on a shooting spree in a theater.

And the DHS obviously felt it was a viable threat.

Same as they feel a cyanide attack or a vehicle ramming attack is a viable threat...It's damned if they do, damned if they don't isn't it?

They try to cover all bases and the nuts claim they must have inside knowledge.
They don't do anything about it and the nuts claim they are inept and/or let it happen...

isn't the venue of a shooting become irrelevant if the shooter gives himself up? so what if it's noisy and dark... or open and light like a grocery store... if the shooter doesn't try to get away, the venue and atmosphere is moot, is it not? one could easily go to a grocery store/mall/restaurant, throw tear gas, walk the aisles and have just as many targets. mastermind need not apply

and if you want all the other coincedences that came with the Dark Knight Rises, then really, only the theater works

reply to post by g2v12


Bets on the first "official" to say "bath salts"...

Originally posted by mardukiscoming
As I was sitting in my living room watching the news coverage of the Aurora shooting,I turned to my room mate and said,"Heres a paranoid conspiracy theory.James Holmes is a gov't patsy hired to do this shooting in order to further the gov'ts plan to disarm America."
Doesn't sound so paranoid now.

This event is not going to disarm America. If it were a ploy by the government to forge political change, there would have to be numerous incidents executed in a short time span. That would take an inordinate amount of planning and the cooperation of a knowledgeable and well coordinated group of people who wouldn't go public. If we have people in this government that are willing to do such things, then I guess we are one step from a totalitarian regime.

Anyone else find it a bit odd, or "coincidental" that this happened just days after a fairly tall white man wearing what could be an Adidas t-shirt, having fake American (Michigan) identification, blew up a bus of Israeli tourists? Never mind bath salts, but bets on the time frame it takes for something to appear online that says this man was part of some "Hezbollah" related, or funded organization or something that says he posted on some kind of "terrorist" forum.

Originally posted by DragonFire1024
reply to post by g2v12

 

Bets on the first "official" to say "bath salts"...

No, he exhibits too much cognition and competency to be on bath salts, that was the crux of my post.

Originally posted by g2v12

Originally posted by DragonFire1024
reply to post by g2v12

 

Bets on the first "official" to say "bath salts"...

No, he exhibits too much cognition and competency to be on bath salts, that was the crux of my post.

edit on 21-7-2012 by g2v12 because: grammer

I agree...but it's not about what is a fact, because if we are assuming we aren't being told the truth in this situation, then the latest fad would be the quoted above. and all it takes is one person with some kind of badge to say it, before Fox News and CNN run to breaking news with it.

Originally posted by quedup
Take a look at this warning - telling people to watch out for events in theaters/Cinemas now that really sets me off thinking, don't know about you guys.

7/21/2012 -- FBI theater attack warning issued on May 17, 2012

I'm not surprised they put out a warning, and around the same time as the release of motion picture 'God Bless America' where, as anyone here who has seen it will tell you that one of the final scenes involves a guy shooting up a theatre audience with multiple weapons.

This entire incident reeks of set up. Where did the 'gunman' get all his guns and bomb gear? He had to have been shopping for his equipment somewhere - where are the credit card transactions and receipts etcetera? Which leads me to the fact he is a Student and it is my understanding that in America tertiary education costs heaps - so how did a Student afford all the guns and bomb gear????? Who financed him?????

Now to the actual scene of the crime - where are the photographs and video footage of the aftermath? Where are the photographs with emergency services -like ambulance crews hauling the injured and deceased out of the theatre? In a time when a person can turn on the television or connect to the internet and see all manner of violence and blood and guts and pornography - a purported major crime has occurred and there's no television crew scrambling to be the first to have the 'live at the scene' broadcast.

There seems to be an agenda and with the FBI posting warnings - I am calling a set up. If the FBI are so clued up about what is going to happen - how come they cannot avert a major crime - ever!? The website wellaware1 is certainly giving everyone something to think about.

This is a set up that will then lead into a call for the mass handing over of all guns from gun owners. It happened in Australia with the massacre in Tasmania. A survivor from the Tasmanian massacre stated in court - 'that was not the man who shot me' and they still sent the guy to jail and no surprises here - there was a gun recall. The same exercise is being put in place with the cinema gunman. America is mind controlled and blind to what their government is enacting.

Much Peace...for all those that die as a result of psychopathic governments and their agencies...

reply to post by Amanda5


Would you mind terribly dragging up a link to summarize this Tasmania thing? First I've heard of it, sounds like something I want to know more about.

reply to post by Amanda5


I feel it is very suspicious as to how the news is portraying his weapons as all purchased legally, as in "see if you can buy a weapons legally" people will do things like this. The opposite is true, maybe if more people were armed the this person would have been stopped. I am interested in the list of those dead. My friend who exhibits some psychic ability senses that this was all done as a cover to kill a whistle blower.
Here is a link to her blog. psychicfocus.blogspot.com...

Who knows, but I am curious about those among the dead. My wife and I both have concealed carry, and this is just another example why Americans still have the right to protect themselves.

I just saw that he bought his first gun on may 22nd. Only 5 days aftr the warning. This feels like that movie "minority report". Whole lotta trickery and avenues of information. Did they put the warning out as part of code.. Or di they hve precog tech? Or what the hell? This story is insane. I think ive had my fill.

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
Putting aside the fact it's a dutchsinse video... the document he is presenting appears to be completely legit. All the links are under his video btw. And I must say I am quite shocked to be honest... this document is fairly suspicious.

potential to inflict mass casualties and cause local economic damage.

that last line is not comforting either.

reply to post by mattdel


That's a pretty serious avatar you have there! The event I am referring to is the Port Arthur Massacre and it was very gruesome as far as innocent people getting killed. Two little girls were shot point blank with their mother in a car - that was some way from the actual cafe site where most of the killing was committed. The amount of people killed in the allotted time and the accuracy of the shots - it had to be a very very skilled sniper and no doubt mind controlled to shoot two little girls, let alone all the others. By the way there was video footage from a few feet away when he shot the little girls - absolutely soul destroying stuff.

members.iimetro.com.au/-hubbca/port_arthur.htm

This site is excellent for giving an entire scenario right from a government minister speaking about gun deaths in Tasmania before it actually happened. There is a story about Pauline Hansen (a member of parliament) who was going to tell the truth to the media but had a gun stuck in her stomach (you may not be able to find that on the internet) and she later on went to jail on trumped up charges regarding taxes and money. She was being taught a lesson about not ratting on the 'powers that be."

I feel for sure that the cinema killings are a set up and very shortly the media will be soaked to the bone with anti gun sentiments and a call to the nation to surrender arms. Crikey if cinemas are no longer safe - just stay at home and watch DVDs!!!! Oh and re-train the FBI - if they know so much about what is about to happen it's high time they did some real work and prevented some crime!!!!

Much Peace...

reply to post by TheZeppelin


You have access to the American news and I am intrigued by your comments about how he purchased his guns legally. I imagine that information is included in news reports?? Where and when did the FBI get that information and so damn quickly????

As someone else has written also - the psychology is all wrong - the guy simply surrendered - no fight - no shoot out and no death by police. If his apartment is rigged up as a booby trap then why did he alert the authorities so they could diffuse the mechanisms???? These are not the actions of a 'crazed' gunman. All that effort and then he simply gives himself up and confesses - it seems more like an episode of a television police show.

Very quickly the media will now become saturated with anti gun information and very very quickly the government will want all guns handed in across the country. The government want only their agencies to have guns and not the public. Let's see how quickly the cabal/illuminati/whatever swing into action.

With soooooo many people now in the awakened state - and more every day - this exercise in terror may not work - here's hoping.

Much Peace...

reply to post by JBA2848


I can see what you're saying the text in between the two logos at the top is off centre. I've been in the Printing and Graphic arts game for over 30 years, it does look like it may have been manipulated. However I am no expert on Classified Documents of the Homeland Security kind.
Having said that, the more we see and hear in this case the more it looks something is not right.
I mean they demolished any evidence regarding this guy with a controlled demolition. That's more than a bit suss,
by the way how would a geeky student studying his Phd in neuro -sciences set up booby traps that baffled experts to the point they had to demolish the evidence.
This whole scenario is stinking more and more all the time. Even his Mother guessed it was him, I think my Mother would be in serious denial.Unless he has planned this for some time and she had stumbled on to some evidence at some point.
It's all too strange for me.

reply to post by Amanda5


Its interesting you mention Port Arthur and Martin Bryant as I have been thinking on that all day, that was almost the straw that broke the camels back here in OZ. That and the Hoddle Street/Julian Knight shootings.
A lot of people wanted gun control after this, I wonder if that was set up to create a situation where Australians cant protect themselves when the SHTF.
I've never owned a gun and I guess I am anti - gun however its worrying to know that the Police and Armed Forces all carry guns, and though they are meant to protect us, who protects us from them if the SHTF.

This hasnt sat right with me since i first heard of it, this incident. It is hard for me to understand the motives of humans killing humans but it seems money is always at the root. And then you have love-fueled violence which is almost more astounding. But the fact MSM wants to broadcast this like columbine and nine eleven has me thinking this is the work of the hidden hand. Cant even explain it to people without the right occult knowledge.

reply to post by quedup


I don't believe the plan is to take guns off the Americans. You have a population of 350 million excluding the illegals, now where on earth are they going to get the manpower to take away all your arms?

Even us foreigners think you Americans have some crazy gun laws and do need to be tighten up. Every gun holder should be licenced including their guns and those with criminal convictions and psychological issues should not be allowed a license. One hand gun per household or adult 21 years or older is quite sufficent and should be well secured and locked up. Genuine hunters (including native indians on their reservations) could be given special licenses for certain firearms. Gun licenses should be met with psychological tests etc and fingerprinting before aquiring a license much the same way as one goes about aquiring a drivers license.

By saying that, no matter how strict gun laws are in the USA, illegal firearms will always find their way on to the blackmarket.

All firearm data and licenses should be readily available and shared by all states of the USA.

Originally posted by Kangaruex4Ewe
A HUGE coincidence IF it is one for sure. That coupled with the mom supposedly saying "You got the right guy" as soon as the cops called her up gives me a heebeejeebee feeling whether it means something or not.

Mother's instinct man lol