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False Flag Alert in Aurora : Biggest Mass Shooting in the History of the USA is not a coincidence

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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Sometimes a nut on a murder rampage is just a nut on a murder rampage.

This guy isn't even what I would call a "gun nut". He had a modest collection. He didn't appear to be obsessed with guns, gun culture, or live in some fantasy "kill or be killed" world.

To claim or even think this was all a big false flag op to get more gun control? Bogus.

You live in a world with easy access to guns.

You live in a world with deeply disturbed people.

Sometimes those two conditions mix, and you end up with a Columbine or an Aurora.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer

To claim or even think this was all a big false flag op to get more gun control? Bogus.


Ditto. Some people, especially those on the right, have to try to politicize everything. As you said, this is just a nut with a gun who snapped and, tragically, people were killed. I'm so sick of seeing every single news event discussed here on ATS as something related to NWO. This place has really gone to #



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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Also he had a BS in neurobiology, brain workings, ie. heavily invovled area in studies/M'Kultra that kind of thing.

The teenager that survived the Toronto shooting dies in Colorado. They cart their MKultra victims around?

The UN is signing a gun treaty?

The other theatres are calling for policing?

Do they want TSA scanners too?



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by MidnightToker

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer

To claim or even think this was all a big false flag op to get more gun control? Bogus.


Ditto. Some people, especially those on the right, have to try to politicize everything. As you said, this is just a nut with a gun who snapped and, tragically, people were killed. I'm so sick of seeing every single news event discussed here on ATS as something related to NWO. This place has really gone to #



Yeah that's gonna happen on a conspiracy forum. It may not be the case but that doesn't make it any less plausible.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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Some people, especially those on the right, have to try to politicize everything.


Wait a minute, wasn't it the far left ABC network that tried to politicize this by saying...

On Good Morning America, ABC News' Brian Ross and George Stephanopoulos suggested that the Tea Party might be connected to the mass shootings early this morning in an Aurora, CO theater during a screening of the new Batman movie, The Dark Knight Rises.


Based only on the guys name......... Just pointing out that both sides are guilty of politicizing everything.
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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:34 PM
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Similar thing happened in Australia in Port Arthur in 1996.

20 peole were killed by a similar "mentally deranged" individual called Martyn Bryant.

The irregularities with this events and witness testimonies that were not ever included in major media reports or even court.


More info at link below should any Americans want to compare both instances.
www.whale.to...

Some of the irregularites -

Witnesses saw more than one gunman.
the shooter fired from the hip gettin a 95% head shot accuracy....WTF?

the shooter was firing with the opposite hand that Martyn Bryant uses.

Martyn Bryant had minimal fire arms experience



Martin Bryant, an intellectually impaired registered invalid with no training in the use of high powered assault weapons, could not under any circumstances have achieved or maintained the incredibly high and consistent killed-to-injured ratio and kill-rate which were bench marks of the port Arthur massacre. Whoever was on the trigger that fateful day demonstrated professional skills equal to some of the best special forces shooters in the world, His critical error lay in killing too many people too quickly while injuring far too few, thereby exposing himself for what he was: a highly trained combat shooter probably ranked among the top twenty such specialists in the western world.




The records show that a total of 32 people were shot in the Broad Arrow Cafe, so at best we would expect 4 dead and 28 injured, or at worst 6 dead and 26 injured. These are very reliable military figures based on hard science, but the actual figures in the Broad Arrow Cafe were 20 dead and 12 injured - an incredible inverted ratio of 1.66 to 1, or nearly two dead for every one injured.


The fact this American "Dark Knight" shooting happened in the cinema helps TPTB as the identify can be easily hidden in the darkness of the cinema itself.

In the Australian instance, the laws banning semi automatic firearms such as the AR-15 were already written waiting to be put into effect.......Port Arthur Massacre was soooo convenient...too convenient with its timing.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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ABC made that claim because the names were the same (there a Jim Holmes associated with the TP in that area), but they also immediately retracted the statement and said the two names were not the same person. Compared to how Fox and some right-wing sites went overboard trying to depict the wrong Trayvon Martin as the victim of Zimmerman, it would be slightly hypocritical to attack ABC for their mistake.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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I think it is a reflection of where the young peoples heads are today. The violence in gaming and the movies they watch has caused this, these kids spend hour after hour killing people down in their basements on game machines, and mom and dad; if they have a mom and dad, are so wrapped up in their own troubles that Jr being occupied and not bringing them more problems, is one less problem for them to worry about. These kids grow up in violence, it is everywhere, PG13 what a joke. These kids see more violence than generations ago ever saw in a lifetime. Sex is banned but violence isn't where are the morals of the CRTC (or whatever governing body in your country) are to blame for the violence that all that these kids are watching. Lets not even go to the problem with news, they glorify these actions and give these desperate souls, who are desperate for attention, love, family, inclusion in society their 15 minutes of fame until the next misfit decides that it is time to act on their war game fantasy... and there will be a next time. Why is anyone shocked when it does happen...each one trying to outdo the one before.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by ViktorHaze
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Not to mention that the DOD has an Intelligence office in the area...
There are a great deal of coincidences in this event that would cause someone of a suspicious nature to be a little.....suspicious.
He just up and left school suddenly?
Manchurian Candidate much?

_VH


Those coincidences are all indeed very interesting.

They do however raise even more questions for me.

Why would they use this particular student, who was a neuroscience student currently getting his doctorate, instead of another person with less brains and more brawn.

TPTB are surely smarter than to use the "wrong tool" for the job at hand.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Alex Jones was also quick to connect the dots on this mass shooting




posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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I've played shooters, mortal kombat, Warcraft, all those violent games, since I was about 13 years old. I'm 29 now, and I don't own 2 glocks, a shotgun, an AR15, a gasmask, body armor, nor do I have access to tear gas.

The great thing about all that? I don't want any of it either. Games are not causing this. Sometimes, people go batty.
And sometimes, people get killed for psyop reasons. Do you honestly believe a video game nerd with PHDs has the capacity to teargas a movie theater and injure 70+ people while killing 12? I don't. Even with the close proximity of everyone to each other. This dude walked in the side door of that theater looking like Blade with a gasmask. You can't put together that maybe, just maybe, this was a mercenary of some kind hired to further public opinion of the UN small arms treaty?



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Lichter daraus
First thing that came to my mind when i heard about this was "great one more reason for them to take away our right to bear arms". i wont be surprised if there are more happenings like this to push that agenda even farther.


The push to take guns away from all citizens will come when the first bands begin to resist.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:50 PM
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It's being reported that the shooter was an avid guitar hero player. That is non-violent game.

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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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I have certainly considered these things no 'random' coincidence.

I am surprised no one has mentioned that he got a phone call just prior to walking outside (could be it only appeared that way?.. but I think not). Then he came back, tossed the gas and started shooting at the same time the shooting started in the movie, this according to a witness. The timing was perfect. How did he know when the shooting would start?

Then walks outside and waits to be captured. There is much more to this that we will never know. My guess he will be labeled schizophrenic (and maybe he is) because he heard voices tell him to do this.

If he was bent on killing as many as possible, why tell the police about the apartment? Don't know? Something is off.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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Everytime something like this happens,
my first thought is: False Flag.
I'm also questioning that door that was presumably kicked "in"...It only opens from the inside....

Anyway, so sad so many had to die for one reason or another



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by yourmaker

Originally posted by Lichter daraus
First thing that came to my mind when i heard about this was "great one more reason for them to take away our right to bear arms". i wont be surprised if there are more happenings like this to push that agenda even farther.


The push to take guns away from all citizens will come when the first bands begin to resist.

Last I knew, this treaty is set to be signed on 7/27/12

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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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and no one is blaming the movie>??
i saw an advert for a new batman movie.ffs youve tried 27 times.
batman is a camp spandex loving guy from the 70's. no amount of cgi will change that.

ugh, makes me want to fetch my gun.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Sometimes a nut on a murder rampage is just a nut on a murder rampage.


.. and sometimes, it is not.

If only everything in this world could be dismissed so easily.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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I don't know what to think. Some things make sense and other things don't. I don't know if this if this was staged or not. I mean anything could be possible? My husband woke me up in the AM and said "some guy from San Diego killed people at a movie theater in Colorado" i said oh yeah well i am gonna have to look online and on ATS and he just laughed. My husband does not believe in Conspiracy Theories, NWO, The government controlling us and how USA is the land of free or even believe in the Illuminati. But i do and i cant have a civil conversation with him over this shooting because he says i am stupid to think anything else. He says that he was just a depressed guy who felt like killing people and then he says its cause hes white huh?

Some of my friends are saying he was Mind controlled but again i don't know the facts and i really do not know what to believe in at this moment. I feel really bad for all that did get injured and died.
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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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You it the nail on the head!
I would substitute #8 with the race card that will soon be played.
It's crismas in july for these sick freaks.



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