10/7 I said Dark Knight (shooting) was a blood sacrifice

reply to post by Unity_99

I have a question? What do you think is the reason for preference of certain dates, doing things by the numbers, coding things enormously?

By using the words "reason for preference" you are using a conclusion to form a premise.
This is a form of circular logic that creates a loaded question phrased rhetorically.

It doesn't matter what I answer because you already have a reply regardless if I agree or disagree.

This exemplifies my statement concerning people not using logic and reason.

The dates are RANDOM mate.
You are placing meaning on random circumstance.
This is how the brain works.

And unless we are taught the steps to counter this innate response then we fall victim to it.

Is there a frequency, a geometry that affects the wave of the universe? Are they affecting the wave pattern of this creational school?

Yes. Fibonacci gave us the formula.
You can also find it in Phi and Pi.
The Greeks figured it out.

My point is that if this is taught and manipulated secretly by initiates, then the people on ATS are not talking about it.
No one knows about it because it is enjoyed by initiates alone.

That is why the word used is occult.

Trying to figure it out is a waste of time and energy.
If you really want to know, then go join a lodge dedicated to Freemasonry.

And I would bet that after joining you would be surprised to find no secret room where Lucifer is worshiped.

Do you know that they've been working with being/entities/ETs/demigods of old for some time? In fact they have a relationship to them?

You have just lost all credibility that you might have had.

The universe is not what you think.

So then you have it figured out and all that it afforded you was the ability to rant on ATS.

I would think that once someone understood the universe they would then write a best selling book or build a fortress of solitude or something like that.

Thank you for proving every single point in my previous post.

reply to post by Starchildren


There are apparently still bodies in the theater that have not been identified yet and people still trying to find loved ones suspected of having gone to the event that night, at least according to some news items on MSNBC I read. I'm still trying without any luck at all to find out if the missing seven year old child mentioned in some early reports was found yet. I find it highly suspicious that a seven year old child has gone missing under these circumstances. But in such chaos an abduction would not be hard to stage. I just hope the child is found safe and sound. I have not been able to find any updates or even any retractions stating that the missing child report was made in error.

I don't care if I look like a looney bird participating in this thread. To some, we are looney conspiracy nuts, but we see it as being open to considering alternate possibilities. Insult my intelligence all you like, skeptics. But it's okay, some coincidences are just that, coincidences, and it's fair to point that out. ATS is the place to debate these things so all viewpoints are welcome as far as I care. I just wish we could be more civil about it.

reply to post by Runciter33

And are *you* familiar with Gematria and Numerology enough so when you call it a 'pseudoscience' your opinion is in fact qualified?

Very nice proselytizing, and i like how you condescend towards people with different religious beliefs than you. That's fair.

If you can find numerous qualified scientists who can validate repeatedly either gematria or numerology then I might change my stance.

Until then they are relegated to the realm of myth.

Like all religion.

This happens with any first cause belief.

When someone buys into a poppycock religious daydream establishing reason for first cause then logic and reason are thrown out the window.
My belief is only seen as condescending because those who oppose it live in fantasy land.

It is no different than believing that the English monarchy are reptiles.

So the 'Dark Night' makes his first appearance in a 1986 in a comic book called the 'Batman: The Dark Knight Returns' (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Dark_Knight_Returns)

In the same comic book, there's a scene about "a crazed, gun-toting loner that walks into a movie theater and begins shooting it up"... washingtonexaminer.com...

In 2012, the Dark Knight makes his first appearance in a Batman movie which is called 'The Dark Knight Rising' and "a crazed, gun-toting loner walks into a movie theater and begins shooting it up" ....

Ain't that something!

reply to post by kyviecaldges


I just write off quickly, and didn't have time to edit that post. I already know what the universe is though, through direct experience and contact, and downloads, though wasn't doing the questioning at first, so that was on the prompting of someone else who asked me some deep questions. That I took within. And then the experiences changed. Its like you get the questions, even a little extra work, and the teacher gives you some extra info, in other words you need to be working on what you're doing in this life, and trying to be kind and then more is given.

This isn't really questions that I was asking me. What I asked above is just a toe in.

Random, I dissected the 777 and 21 blackjack, 9/11 in the actual date of the murders, taking into account the day of the week and the number on the building.

It's always done by the numbers, never ever random, and this man wasn't workign alone. The tear gas came from another direction according to witnesses, and there are even missing people. This is an inside false flag, murder by PTB. By the numbers, well planned in advance. Some of the reasons for those numbers were hinted at above. That its all nonsense in that they're not backing any higher ups of any kind, there are quarantines and quarantines, there are bullies bullying the kindergarden students and kindergarden students bullying the preschool students and so forth and so on. But the Higher Ups are Love, they don't live by harsh laws, but Virtues and Cheaters who thinking cunning under handed tricks give them permission and are OK by our free will (which in this heavily programmed world where people don't even use basic logic to question obvious things and hence prove they have no real free will) doesnt cut. Cheaters don't prosper.

But they don't get all this for some reason, they keep slamming everything into them being wolves working for a neutral "god", which is very low frequency nonsense. They don't seem to see that the whole galaxy is just a low frequency playpen for some out of control kids, that need to grow up still. That includes all their et/demiurge overlords of old, enki/enlil/zeus/marduk/and many others.

Do You Believe in Magick? Part I

There are 5 parts to this, relating to 9/11 and their numbers, and especially what those numbers are about "their astrology"! And how long they plan things in advance, and pass the baton on, its like their job is just to make happen what has been written for them to do as a script, passed on, and their families heavily program them, that they're born an annanuki bloodline serving this, when they should be a Soul First, question it all, and walk away like Buddha did.

They are very strongly programmed and we should also keep them in our prayers and have and send compassion to them so they can be freed from this web of deceit.

Everything is done by the numbers/astrology.

Speaking of which.

I wonder what the actual astrological alignments were that day, from all the bodies of astrology including the vedic.

Originally posted by kyviecaldges
reply to post by Runciter33

 

And are *you* familiar with Gematria and Numerology enough so when you call it a 'pseudoscience' your opinion is in fact qualified?

Very nice proselytizing, and i like how you condescend towards people with different religious beliefs than you. That's fair.

If you can find numerous qualified scientists who can validate repeatedly either gematria or numerology then I might change my stance.

Until then they are relegated to the realm of myth.

Like all religion.

This happens with any first cause belief.

When someone buys into a poppycock religious daydream establishing reason for first cause then logic and reason are thrown out the window.
My belief is only seen as condescending because those who oppose it live in fantasy land.

It is no different than believing that the English monarchy are reptiles.

Hahaha poppycock eh? You don't say. Well alrighty then. I guess you know it all, no need to say more. I will defer to your infinite wisdom upon everything. Anyone who opposes your beliefs must be in "fantasy land" because your beliefs are the right ones, and everyone who disagrees with you is wrong, because they aren't your beliefs.. am i doing this right? Sounds like kind of an arrogant attitude to me if i am to be honest. But you are entitled to your opinions and your opinions of other peoples opinions, just as i am. So i still respect that. Hey, its your nickel, take whichever ride you like.

"We should not pretend to understand
the world only by the intellect;
we apprehend it just as much by feeling.
Therefore, the judgment of the intellect is,
at best, only the half of truth, and must, if it be honest,
also come to an understanding of its inadequacy."

-Carl Jung

Sorry to go off topic.

reply to post by dunipop


just read more frank miller. again i think hes in on "it" . his darkhorse stuff is that of legend .and we are all being pushed towards sin city.

alabe.com...

Here is the free astro chart for aurora, colorado, 12 am, July 20, 2012.

Are they any astromers in the house?

link won't go through, so this is the Chart, screenshot capture, Jake is just a made up name.



I see a capstone for one thing.

reply to post by Starchildren


That movie was one of my favorites of the year.

Here are the degrees:

Rising: 22 degrees Aries.

Sun: 27 Degrees Cancer.

Moon: 10 Degrees Leo.

Mercury: 11 Degrees Leo.

Venus: 15 Degrees Gemini.

Mars: 09 Degrees Libra.

Jupiter: 08 Degrees Gemini.

Saturn: 23 Degrees Libra.

Uranus: 08 Degrees Aries.

Neptune: 02 Degrees Pisces.

Pluto: 07 Degrees Capricorn. Find this interesting, 7 capricorn which is ruled by Saturn and Pluto signifies death and underworld. And reminds me of 777 and blackjack 21.

N. Node is 03 Degrees Sagittarius.


Here in the Vedic Astrology it says:

vedichealing.com...

There is a commonly held misunderstanding that all Kala Sarpa Yoga configurations are bad. When the seven planets (Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, and Venus) fill all the houses between the nodal axis (meaning none of the intervening houses are empty), that is considered to be a Kala Sarpa Yoga, which can give great attainment in life. This is heightened if all the planets are moving toward the North node Rahu, rather than towards South node Ketu. ....

Black Snake??? Apparently the 20th it re-emerges, and then on the 23:
hinduism.about.com...

Nag Panchami, a.k.a., Naga or Nagula Panchami, is a Hindu festival dedicated to the worship of snakes and serpent deities. It is observed across India and Nepal on the fifth day of the bright fortnight of the lunar month of Shravan during the monsoon season. It celebrates the victory of Lord Krishna over the mythical Kaliya, a monstrous black python that was killed by Krishna in the Yamuna river. This year Nag Panchami falls on July 23, 2012.

If Krishna could be seen as a christed being, he battles a huge black python, and kills it. This is symbolically the re-emergence of the Black Python killed by the Christed person, sun god.

reply to post by Runciter33


You do realize that Carl Jung's contributions to psychology are now viewed in a historical context and not in an empirical context?

You just quoted a "scientist" whose studies are now seen as closer to voodoo than science.

To be honest, I am hardly surprised.

Originally posted by kyviecaldges
reply to post by Runciter33

 

You do realize that Carl Jung's contributions to psychology are now viewed in a historical context and not in an empirical context?

You just quoted a "scientist" whose studies are now seen as closer to voodoo than science.

To be honest, I am hardly surprised.

I am not surprised on your sentiments regarding Jung, another thing you are apparently an expert of. What can i say? We have reached an impasse. Agree to disagree.

But it is all a moot point though, because there are people that practice occult rituals, study the kabalah and Gematria, so whether or not it is acceptable to you as valid, it is already valid to quite a few others, and has been around for several centuries at the very least. It is possible then, *possible*, that secretive organizations in power practice such magic, and hence also possible they could leave their mark through symbolism on their handiwork.

The question is not 'is occult symbology real' , the fact is, that it exists, and people have studied and used it for several centuries, regardless of whether or not it passes the rigors of your accepted double blind scientific standards. That is irrelevant to the issue.

reply to post by kyviecaldges


You sound like you have it all figured out, so by all means please share the secrets with us...You claim religion is a myth, but why couldn't the same easily be said about modern science? After all there is new information and discoveries coming out almost everyday that tend to disprove what we once thought to be true, so you really shouldn't judge something that can't be proved wrong or correct, unless of course you have some all knowing knowledge that others cannot seem to find.

The French Connection ?

This is really weird. The shooter's address is "Paris St", the other bomber over there in Bulgaria carries a fake Michigan Driver's license, uses a french name "Jacque Felipe Martin" and lists his address as "France St". When you look up the "France St" address in Louisiana, you find it's just under "Government St". Is someone trying to tell us something?

PARIS - FRANCE - GOVERNMENT - US

these French clues being linked together by blood sacrifices.

The last time french clues kept popping up we got 9/11.

Do you remember?

Here's how it went down back then:

First, in April 6, 2001, a man dressed in military fatigues attacked the famous "Liberty Bell" in Philadelphia, shouting "God Lives!" as he struck the bell with a hammer. He was arrested and taken away, and we later learnt his name was "Mitchell Guilliatt" (an old French name), and the official story was that he was just an unemployed homeless man, wandering about the land, who went apparently crazy, and there was no purpose nor reason to his action.

www.rumormillnews.com...
www.ushistory.org...





The Liberty Bell, which was "cast in France", is a token of American freedom. It is an important treasured symbol,

In the early days of the American colonies, the Liberty Bell was rung to call people together for special announcements and events. The Liberty Bell rang out from the tower of Independence Hall on July 8, 1776, summoning citizens to hear the first public reading of the Declaration of Independence.

Source: www.ndt-ed.org...

This "Liberty Bell" was just the new and improved replacement for the old City Bell

Philadelphia's city bell had been used to alert the public to proclamations or civic danger since the city's 1682 founding. The original bell hung from a tree behind the Pennsylvania State House (now known as Independence Hall) and was said to have been brought to the city by its founder, William Penn. In 1751, with a bell tower being built in the Pennsylvania State House, civic authorities sought a bell of better quality, which could be heard at a further distance in the rapidly expanding city.[1] Isaac Norris, speaker of the Pennsylvania Provincial Assembly, gave orders to the colony's London agent, Robert Charles, to obtain a "good Bell of about two thousands pound weight".[2]

Source: en.wikipedia.org...

Get that picture?

A man with French name,dressed up like military, bangs on the famous French casted "Liberty Bell" which had not been struck for ages, and was traditionally used to warn the public of impending danger.

We're told he's just an unemployed bum, and the story fades into the background. Just another crazy.

Ok, that's the first french clue.

Next. on August 23, 2001, Frenchman Thierry Devaux parachutes onto the Statue of Liberty in New York harbor, and hang up his *RED* parachute on the flame of the statue.




www.panoramio.com...
english.people.com.cn...

New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani called Devaux an "idiot" for endangering the lives of tourists and of police who had to rescue him.

Source: articles.cnn.com...:US

Just 19 days later, after the Red flag was raised onto the upright arm of the Symbol of Liberty, we got 9/11.

Need I remind you that the Statue of Liberty was cast in France? A gift from the French to the United States of America. A sign of Liberty, from the Revolutionary nation that fought for "Liberté, égalité, fraternité,"

Well, that's the second french clue.

Just before America is attacked, two important symbols of "Liberty" were raised up into the consciousness of the public: first a man rings the Liberty Bell warning of danger coming as is tradition, then a man drapes the Liberty Statue's flame in red cloth, another traditional sign of danger coming.

The two men are described as crazy and idiotic by official reports. Then we get 9/11, same year, right after the signs.

When liberty is at stake, it seems, "French" connections are used with acts designed to grab public attention, to some upcoming event that will cause them to lose their liberty.

So, now we come back to today's events. Again, we find "French" clues populating the activities. What could it mean? We already have the Patriot Act that removed the liberties after 9/11, but what more can they do? What's the hidden plans being indicated?

Maybe some of you will enjoy this article:
Predictive Programming Batman Movie

Originally posted by SolarIce
reply to post by kyviecaldges

 

You sound like you have it all figured out, so by all means please share the secrets with us...You claim religion is a myth, but why couldn't the same easily be said about modern science? After all there is new information and discoveries coming out almost everyday that tend to disprove what we once thought to be true, so you really shouldn't judge something that can't be proved wrong or correct, unless of course you have some all knowing knowledge that others cannot seem to find.

edit on 21-7-2012 by SolarIce because: (no reason given)

Obviously my efforts are a waste of time.

I have nothing to prove to you.

This thread, religion, mysticism... crap like that are trying to prove something.

I am merely pointing to flaws.

By placing the burden of proof on me you are committing a logical fallacy.

I really don't think that it matters to you that I point this out.
I have yet to meet anyone at ATS who accepts the flaws in their argument warmly.

Go ahead and keep living in Candyland.
Santa Claus has you on his good list.
And if you need money then pull a tooth and put it under your pillow.

www.cbsnews.com...

I don't about you guys in the US, but here in Canada, when you investigating a murder suspect you scour his apartment and take everything into custody and analyze. What you don't do, is one day after the murder, carry out a controlled detonation in his apartment.

Exactly what evidence where they hiding?

reply to post by kyviecaldges

I have yet to meet anyone at ATS who accepts the flaws in their argument warmly.

I've met some amazing people on this site who come here to debate conspiracy in a peaceful and civilize manner, people who are looking for truths and love to be corrected and proven wrong, because these people understand thats how one learns.

but then there are people who post things such as

Go ahead and keep living in Candyland. Santa Claus has you on his good list. And if you need money then pull a tooth and put it under your pillow.

Now how do you benefit from that? You aren't committing to this thread your basically attacking me and my beliefs. I didn't attack you, I simply asked you to not call something you cannot prove nor disprove a myth.

Its all opinions and unless you can 100% disprove something you really shouldn't jump to conclusions.

though this is way off topic and really shouldn't have to be said..

oh and I starred your post it made me laugh, I'm not being sarcastic either, after reading this horrifying event laughter is a must

reply to post by Unity_99


They are disarming the explosive devices and the trip wire in his apartment.. The controlled detonation did happen, like you said.Hm.
Anyway. It's obvious that we can make almost any kind of facts/events fit into a certain prediction.