Why Do Those Who Claim To Know...Still Around?

Having a conversation with a friend of mine today, talking about the new Greer "documentary filming of contact".

Now mind you according to what I read ( which wasn't very much cause Greer is a total hoaxer imo) he's filmed "contact" and is preparing to put it out right?

Well that let me to another thought. How in the realm of the most well kept secret of our time, could you be alive, and running your mouth if had any sort of real information?

I would have been filming and uploading to the internet in the first 4 minutes that was happening, not sitting on my hands.

So my point is, if you are running around telling people that you know all this stuff about aliens and UFO's and some guys in suits don't show up at your door, or you don't have an "accident", well, I can probably safely say you know nothing...

Thoughts ATS?

~Tenth

Because they don't know.

I agree.
That covers almost all of the ATSers saying they "know", doesn't it?

Can definitely agree with those points, guess we'll never know until we know.

I'm thinking that the "filming" he mentioned was of a re-enactment.
Just a dramatization of some "eyewitness" accounts, I'm sure.

The world is almost entirely controlled by the governments. To ever think what we know is close to the truth is just plain foolish and those who claim to have any truth will certainly not be able to speak about it.

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
Because they don't know.

I agree.
That covers almost all of the ATSers saying they "know", doesn't it?

edit on 7/20/2012 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)

I don't automatically think that anybody who says they've had an experience is lying. Just, the national ones who are super popular and probably rich from their "stories".

The more exposure you get, the less likely it is that it's true, considering if I was a 3 letter agency I would do my best to get you..well gone.

~Tenth

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
Because they don't know.

I agree.
That covers almost all of the ATSers saying they "know", doesn't it?

edit on 7/20/2012 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)

Unless they're correct and it turns out they did know.

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I'm pretty confident you're right on the mark.

I suspect 'contact' will either be satellite flare flashing once in illusory response to people on the ground when in fact it's just solar reflection causing the flash, or, 'contact' takes the form of a channeling where someone pretends to get inhabited by the spirit of an alien, or some such.

Then again, it might take the form of some really well paid CGI with the assistance of poor resolution video.

Anyway, yes, it's quite dodgy this sitting on it and not revealing it right away post-haste, all coming from Mr. Disclosure hisself. What happened to the transparency and disclosure he was petitioning the U.S. Government for in regard to his own little bit of 'evidence'?

I'm not seeing transparency and disclosure. I'm seeing "Buy my snake oil".

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Yeah I have asked myself those same questions before. I think some "UFO researchers" and Ufologists use the topic of aliens and UFOs to get money. Like David Icke for example, he wrote many books, all of them he sold for a profit. So my opinion is that they use this topic for a personal gain, nothing more. I know Greer is one of them.

It's this simple, if you have REAL proof, expose it don't hold it.

-SAP-

What's that old bit of wisdom go like?

Those who know don't say. Those who say don't know!

I think that's because knowing the unknowable means you will never be able to explain, only understand.

Anyways, yea he's a charlatan is all.

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I'm a little confused on your point.

Are you saying anyone and everyone who talks about Aliens and UFOs should have Black Suits show up at their door?

Or just the guys doing it in the public?

I would have to disagree in the sense that ...... there is simply too many people talking about for some Agency to come and shut you up. May have been more plausible in the 40's and 50's ....but not now.

Being in the lime light should give you some sort of immunity unless you're really on the sh*# list.

Don't get me wrong ....I'm not trying to defend Greer here .... I just think there is more to his story than calling him a Hoaxer.

He is one of the founders of the Disclosure Project ..... call it lame or stupid or a psy-op ..... but the Disclosure Project DOES have GOOD intentions.

Also..... if you really look into Greer's past you can clearly see he was (possibly still is) being manipulated and lied to by Government Agencies.

Meaning ...... he was possibly used as a tool unbeknownst to him. I believe he has actually inferred that but seems more embarrassed than anything.

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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

I think misinformation is just as powerful as disinformation - in some cases more powerful. After all, who's going to sell the BS more convincingly, someone who knows it's BS or someone who believes it's true?

I just think if I was running a 3 letter agency trying to keep this secret, every person who has a little bit of the truth and is confused about the rest of the story is only going to muddy the waters and help make the whole thing seem ridiculous.

I reckon there is benefit to letting people 'in the know' talk about what they know - as long as they don't have any real substantial evidence, and don't have the whole story.

Some of them are able to get information out, some information, often horribly slanted, sometimes only a little. I can think of a few different ones.

Why are they still alive is a completely different issue.

If you're on assignment, and wearing clean underwear, working to retain kindness and integrity, they can only do what is allowed and permitted by the true Higher Ups. And though they maintain that dark side is the ceiling and annanuki the rulers, they are very distorted. They also have a strong religion, that is distorted, its occult/gnostic by our standards, but they're not getting the whole picture and who the Real Higher Ups Are.

When you're doing the work you came to do, and you're not falling into the traps or low frequency anger, but seeing through the world,not bought off by jobs, promotions, trinkets, sex, personal gratification, really striving to be true to Love and Goodness, then you will gain protection for as long as its needed.

example, if TPTB plan on taking out a passenger jet, on a certain date, for whatever reason they have, and yet Spirit directs you to board that plane to go somewhere and assist, there is no weapon the lower frequency universe can fire at that jet that will take it down.

ARK= Acts of Random Kindness. Violence is a lower frequency attack and it takes permissions. They do get away with killing some good people, but again, it depends on a persons call of duty. Life is an assignment, or its like going to school, going home is far better.

Im NOT joking. This is for real. You're in a highly interactive, organic, very real seeming, holographic universe and this is testing ground.

They also have to put truth out in plane site, or they're breaking the rules of the school. They distort most of it, and put in the hands of fools, agents, people who can be ridiculed alot, in other words, THEY CHEAT.

And what they are not getting is, the Higher Ups don't abide by cheaters, but until the end of our lives and theirs, when pencils are down, or until something happens where things hit the fan so to speak, we continue, to do our best.

Have faith, only what can happen does and everything is learning for the soul in the end.

And its all about souls.

There is alot of truth out there, mixed in with a bit of agenda and even alot of agenda.

I personally really like Lou Baldin's information, Ie Sleepers, knew right away he had some real info. And ET_MAN's, which is so closely fitting its surprising really, though they have some differences.

edit to add: I normally have to edit posts, I write them fast and am right hemisphered, so spelling and some words will be dropped that should be there. But this post had words that said the opposite. I hope its edited fully. I find that really odd.

Because of their Is Ra El/Egypt/Sumar beliefs and they really strongly belive in this stuff, and even Soloman's Temple had the structure of dark/light, the black and white floors. This is what they are all about, only some of them believe they're wolves on assignment from the Neutral God, its very much distortions.

But they use slight of hand and cheat in how they put out truths.

Its how TPTB do things.

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They are still around because:
a)They lie,so no MIB will waste their time with liars.
b)They are too famous(or infamous) that an accident or a sudden death will only verify that what they said is true.Even if it was bs,in the eyes of the conspiracy theorists they will become heroes and their sayings the "ABSOLUTE TRUTH".

If Greer took battery cables, put them to his nuts, screamed like a girl and claimed the he was channeling the spirit of Kolgar The Great from the Planet Osirion ....and that was his so called proof....millions of gullible and ignorant morons would believe him.

And make no mistake...his "proof" will be a huge let down and be little more than more questions, and more assumptions, and more jumping to conclusions....and no actual evidence.

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So my point is, if you are running around telling people that you know all this stuff about aliens and UFO's and some guys in suits don't show up at your door, or you don't have an "accident", well, I can probably safely say you know nothing...

I concur. And it will probably involve a .45 ACP or .308 winchester.
Wouldn't you agree?

The truth of it was written above. So a person is either trying to find out the truth and gain knowledge, or they're trying to suppress, and some may be on the wrong side of truth out of confusion don't know who is doing what for what reason, so just trying to be fair.

Been watching lots of documentaries lately which comprise sequences of first-hand testimonies from good old chaps now in their 70s and 80s who are ex-military or retired civilian pilots. I quite like this kind of anecdotal evidence from that generation in particular

Anyway, many of them were saying that just twenty years ago they would be afraid to talk but now, in their later years, don't really feel any reason not to discuss these things openly among themselves and on camera

Greer should hurry up with showing this evidence though..