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Obama's Kenyan birth records discovered in British National Archives

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posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 11:34 PM
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reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 


The truth always comes out in the end, you silly chickens and kitties -

Snopes and wiki are not truth.

Besides, can't we just get rid of obama because he is an inept, lying, idiot?



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 11:40 PM
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I think Obama's birth certificate info was fixed at local level with the records.

It was easy as pie.

Many reasons for doing it.

The true identity of the Father was the original problem.

And possibly the true identity of the Mother.

Social order and general gossip was different in 1961.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 11:48 PM
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Hummm-----Were you not the one that told this thread was ended, but it appears very active with the newest items !!

If you get the obvious wrong, then the more difficult will be just as wrongly observed by you !! imho



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 11:53 PM
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MagnumOpus
Hummm-----Were you not the one that told this thread was ended,


When did I say that?


but it appears very active with the newest items !!


What newest item? Just more evidence of birther lies....


If you get the obvious wrong, then the more difficult will be just as wrongly observed by you !! imho


I did not get it wrong, you were wrong claiming I said the thread was ended....

You just seem to be babbling nonsense again.



posted on Sep, 19 2013 @ 06:07 AM
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When America has turned into a Police State, and Obama claims to be a citizen of a Police State (Indonesia), then you appear to miss a whole lot about why America has no more freedom.

This is why the US Presidency needed to be Natural Born and not a Dual, Triple, or Quadruple Citizen (Indonesia, Kenya, British, Israel, Hawaiian)

Then Obama has all these Birth Certificates that appeared to be very useful to claim he was a Kenyan for a book and perhaps school admissions for Africans, then we see you have huge reasons to cover up for crooked Obama. imho


I don't think America wanted a Kenyan President, nor an Indonesian President, nor a British Subject President, nor an Israeli President that declares false wars on Syria because he learned to lie so well and avoid the truth. Obama and Colon Powell must be cut of the same dishonesty cloth that leads nations to war and war crimes due to false claims. imho


Has not Obama corrupted our military because he really isn't American, and is only a Police State Citizen:

Obama Corrupted the US Military


edit on 19-9-2013 by MagnumOpus because: The corrupt Obama's coats of may colors



posted on Sep, 19 2013 @ 06:29 AM
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MagnumOpus
Obama claims to be a citizen of a Police State (Indonesia),


When did Obama claim to be a citizen of Indonesia?


This is why the US Presidency needed to be Natural Born


Remember, Obama is a natural born US citizen, even the US court has declared that....


Then Obama has all these Birth Certificates


Only 2 actually....


Has not Obama corrupted our military because he really isn't American,


No, he is a natural born US citizen....


Obama Corrupted the US Military


An anonymous letter from someone who claims they are in the military.... is that the best source for your silly birther claims you have?



posted on Sep, 19 2013 @ 06:51 AM
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The Obama Police State War against Americans. Due to being an Indonesian citizen. imho

The Obama war on America:

Obama The Police State


It appears Obama is more a foreigner than an American. Seems to have little sense of values due to Mother's constant bad decisions. Married to Obama I for perhaps a year. Then she jumps ship and marries an Indonesian, soon divorces him. She dies early. It appears lots of instabilities, and part of the reasons for lack of moral compass in the White House.



posted on Sep, 19 2013 @ 06:54 AM
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MagnumOpus
Due to being an Indonesian citizen.


Why do you keep posting lies? All you seem to have is lies - why do you ignore the fact that Obama is a natural born US citizen....



posted on Sep, 19 2013 @ 08:00 AM
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I thought you just told that you can't trust the Internet.

So, where you there or just how did you know this------since you can't believe the Internet !!


But, now that you do use the Internet----then Obama claimed to be Kenyan. Even claimed to be Indonesian, it appears. it appears to be a massive trail of fraudulent claims, supported by all these Birth Certificates showing up all over the place.

edit on 19-9-2013 by MagnumOpus because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 19 2013 @ 08:07 AM
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MagnumOpus
So, where you there or just how did you know this


Check the court records - Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana - but of course you will not do that as it shows Obama is a natural born US citizen, and thus destroys your silly conspiracy theory!


it appears to be a massive trail of fraudulent claims, supported by all these Birth Certificates showing up all over the place.


Made by birthers to try and back up their silly conspiracy theories - and you fell for their fraud!



posted on Sep, 19 2013 @ 08:21 AM
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Unfortunately, all that checking is via the Internet------so it appears you just discounted your other claim.

Besides, unless you were there-----you don't know where Obama was born. Hawaii's laws on Birth Certificates were so loose in this time that they were wide open to fraud, and this problem being a National Security issue linked with Native Born fraud effects.


Plus, it appears Obama's ratings are very low, because he can't seem to be honest on many avenues.

I think the American Public is beginning to see a liar and cheat. imho

Especially after this Syria deal and Putin's big play that made Obama look dumb and called Obama out as dishonest. imho


And we all know you can't read this missive on Obama's Indonesian Adventures. Obama's mom not a US Citizen, and so on

The Sordid Obama Trail:

Sordid Obama



As a result of Soetoro/Obama’s Indonesian “natural” citizenship status, Soetoro/Obama could never regain U.S. “natural born” status, if he in fact he ever held such, which we doubt. Soetoro/Obama could have only become “naturalized” if the proper paperwork were filed with the U.S. State Department, after going through U.S. Immigration upon his return to the United States; in which case, Soetoro/Obama would have received a Certification of Citizenship indicating “naturalized.”

We are informed, believe and thereon allege Obama/Soetoro was never naturalized in the United States after his return. Soetoro/Obama was ten (10) years old when he returned to Hawaii to live with his grandparents. Soetoro/Obama’s mother did not return with him. Therefore, it appears that she did not apply for citizenship for Soetoro/Obama in the United States. If citizenship for Soetoro/Obama had been applied for in 1971, Soetoro/Obama would have a Certification of Citizenship. If Soetoro/Obama returned in 1971 to Hawaii without going through U.S. Immigration, today he would be an “illegal alien” – and obviously not able to serve as President, but also his term as a United States Senator from Illinois for nearly four (4) years was illegal.




edit on 19-9-2013 by MagnumOpus because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 19 2013 @ 09:13 AM
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Unfortunately for you, that link completely ignores what the law actually states. First off you have yet to show that Obama, and it has to be Obama, not his parents, convinced that US Consular to Indonesia that he wanted to renounce his citizenship. However, even then since he was minor, as long as he petitioned the State Department prior to being 18 years and 6 months old he could have his citizenship reinstated. The law says nothing about having to go through naturalization. It flat out says that their citizenship will be reinstated. This means he would be a natural born citizen of the US.

This whole Indonesia thing your're focusing on is pretty much based around an April Fool's joke and a complete lack of knowledge of what the law actually states.



posted on Sep, 19 2013 @ 02:01 PM
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xuenchen
I think Obama's birth certificate info was fixed at local level with the records.

It was easy as pie.

Many reasons for doing it.

The true identity of the Father was the original problem.

And possibly the true identity of the Mother.

Social order and general gossip was different in 1961.



Thank you for providing me with a good laugh. Stop stirring the tea pot you old fox!



posted on Sep, 19 2013 @ 02:02 PM
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People like Magnum Opus often do. They see something that denigrates Obama and they believe it instantly.



posted on Sep, 20 2013 @ 03:03 AM
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When a President of the US becomes more like Slim and Shady, then everyone notices. Slim and Shady practices went into high gear with Obama in the push to attack Syria, with totally bogus claims. Even seasoned CIA advisers said no slam dunk on their Assad claims, and they still do.

So, it comes down to issues like the Birth Certificate Rules in Hawaii were so loose for kids that anything would be possible and Obama could well have been born in Kenya and then Mom get back to Hawaii and got a bogus Birth Certificate. The Hawaii Rules for doing this were considered so easily exploited that most call them a National Security risk issue.

It does appear that someone came forward with some observations that Obama said he was an Indonesian to get into college and that would be after he was 18 plus.

With a Slim and Shady President that is nearly pushing the US into WWIII, everyone starts to pay attention to the lies that Obama is laying on the American Public, plus the war crimes issues, and all these factors of his dishonesty.


When the world trusts Putin more than Obama, it is time to recognize that Obama's slim and shady persona is being noticed, and he needs to release all these school records and see the extent of his claims for citizenship and if he gained money that he should not have for schools.

Those questions will be asked around the world, even more so, the more Obama and his gang tell bigger lies for the corporate sponsors.



posted on Sep, 20 2013 @ 03:20 AM
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MagnumOpus
It does appear that someone came forward with some observations that Obama said he was an Indonesian to get into college


Why do you keep posting and believing that April fools joke?
Is this how low birthers have sunk, believing a April fool's joke?

www.factcheck.org...

We contacted The Associated Press just to confirm what should be obvious, that no such news story ever appeared on the news agency’s wires. Jack Stokes, the AP‘s manager of media relations, gave us this statement: AP: The story purported to be from The Associated Press on April 1 is fake.


You have been told this is a April fool's joke before, so why do you keep claiming it is factual? Trolling?



posted on Sep, 20 2013 @ 03:38 AM
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And the questions continue, and it appears Mom declared Obama as Indonesian.


Is Obama Indonesian


Obama ‘Soebarkah’

State Department documents released in two separate FOIA requests indicate that Ann Dunham apparently identified her son with an Indonesian surname and asked the State Department to drop him from her U.S. passport.

In a passport amendment she submitted in person to the State Department at the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, on Aug. 13, 1968, less than a year after joining her second husband in Indonesia, she petitioned to renew her expiring passport.

In the amendment form, she also requested “Barack Obama II (Soebarkah)” be removed from her U.S. Passport No. 777788.

Her listing of her son’s name as “Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah)” suggests she intended to indicate he was an Indonesian citizen.

Until the State Department released the document in July 2010, the surname Soebarkah had never surfaced in reference to Barack Hussein Obama Jr. Indonesians do not typically use surnames, as is the custom in Western nations.


Read more at www.wnd.com...



posted on Sep, 20 2013 @ 03:44 AM
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MagnumOpus
And the questions continue, and it appears Mom declared Obama as Indonesian.


When exactly did she do that?


Her listing of her son’s name as “Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah)” suggests she intended to indicate he was an Indonesian citizen.


What a lot of nonsense - exactly why do you think a surname indicates a certain nationality?

What on earth are birthers on about now?



posted on Sep, 20 2013 @ 03:45 AM
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The quest for the truths on Obama continues and even Donald Trump offer rewards for information. There is nothing wrong with Americans seeking this information, unless there is something to hide.



Where are Obama's records


On Oct. 24, real estate mogul Donald Trump highlighted the widespread interest in the president’s exotic and obscured past by offering to donate $5 million to a charity of Obama’s choice if he releases his academic transcripts and passport records.

Americans “will know something about their president [and] their president will become transparent, like other presidents,” Trump said, prompting derision from many in the media establishment.

Other groups and individuals are digging for the same materials, which they hope will help shape the public’s understanding of the president’s priorities.

On Sept. 19 a group of federalists used their website, The Trenches, to offer a $35,000 reward for Obama’s transcripts from Occidental College



posted on Sep, 20 2013 @ 03:53 AM
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MagnumOpus
There is nothing wrong with Americans seeking this information, unless there is something to hide.


So what are you hiding?

Funny how all birthers have exactly the same records sealed exactly the same way as Obama has, so what deep dark secrets are you all hiding?

America and the world want to know what you are hiding!




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