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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Arnold Law Firm - 2nd Degree Murder
In order to convict a defendant in Florida of Second-degree murder, the State of Florida must prove the following three elements beyond a reasonable doubt:
1 - The victim is dead;
2 - The death was caused by the criminal act of the defendant;
3 - There was an unlawful killing of the victim by an act imminently dangerous to another and demonstrating a depraved mind without regard for human life.
Understanding a second degree murder can be more confusing than the more serious first degree murder. The "criminal act" reference in the statute must be a single event or series of related actions arising from and performed pursuant to a single design or purpose of committing the murder or creating the dangerous condition that led to the death.
Did he cause the dangerous condition that led to death? At the time Martin jumped Zimmerman, Zimmerman was walking away from Martin and Martin could have also just walked away. There was no need for Martin to jump Zimmerman. So the state will have a hard time proving Zimmerman caused the condition that led to Martins death.
Originally posted by randomname
so he doesn't regret approaching travon with his 2nd amendment courage, illegally stopping him and harassing him, then killing him because he's getting his ass kicked in a fist fight.
i hope they lock away this idiot for 50 years.
Originally posted by OrchusGhule
If I shot a guy to prevent him from splitting my skull open and spilling my brains onto the ground, I would not regret my actions in shooting him either.
The stupidity on here is getting thick.
Originally posted by GunzCoty
reply to post by OrchusGhule
Tell me about it.
More then half the people here don't know the law, and some want him to hang because the MSM told them what to think.
Sad sad world we live in.edit on 7/19/2012 by GunzCoty because: the not that ffs
Originally posted by jheated5
Originally posted by randomname
so he doesn't regret approaching travon with his 2nd amendment courage, illegally stopping him and harassing him, then killing him because he's getting his ass kicked in a fist fight.
i hope they lock away this idiot for 50 years.
Just out of curiosity, how do you illegally stop someone?
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CesarO
Could you guys at least acknowledge the fact that what he says could be genuine i have heard things like that from people so many times. Even if he dident believe it his lawyer probably pushed him to say that. You guys can be so biased sometimes.
A 17 year old kid is unnecessarily dead.
A completely innocent at that specific time 17 year old kid is unnecessarily dead - - due to unnecessary behavior and actions of an over zealous Neighborhood Watch Captain.
Zimmerman is the Poster Boy for why Neighborhood Watch has rules and guidelines - - which includes "do not pursue" and "no gun".
Bias?
That's not true. there is nothing in christianity that says christians aren't supposed to kill .. period.
Originally posted by TsukiLunar
So if he is christian- who are never supposed too kill, period- why did he carry a weapon designed to kill?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
That's not true. there is nothing in christianity that says christians aren't supposed to kill .. period.
Originally posted by TsukiLunar
So if he is christian- who are never supposed too kill, period- why did he carry a weapon designed to kill?
In fact, when you look at the bible, it's probably just the opposite.
Originally posted by GunzCoty
I almost never review what I type at ATS. Whats the point? So the other N didn't make it, the key was not pressed hard enough and you still couldn't understand?
I can see you're just trolling now so........This is for you.
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lmao.
Originally posted by TsukiLunar
Originally posted by FlyersFan
That's not true. there is nothing in christianity that says christians aren't supposed to kill .. period.
In fact, when you look at the bible, it's probably just the opposite.
What?
(6th Commandment.)Thou Shalt not kill.
Seems pretty clear to me.
Originally posted by GunzCoty
reply to post by habitforming
If I didn't believe that some people here are just trolling or trying to be funny, then I would think I'm talking to a bunch of 4 year old kids.
"See him hang" in "today's age" is a old saying, or metaphor, if you will.
Now i refuse to believe you took that literally.
But then again I do know people who would.
Originally posted by kcs7272
I don't care what color Trayvon was he was a THUG and I don't care what color Zimmerman is he most likely acted in self defense.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
As I said .. no one should jump to conclusions on this Zimmerman/Martin thing.
The 'grab the torches and pitchforks' mentality of some people here is awful.
The fact is that we don't know what happened ..
1 - Martin wasn't innocent. He was beating the snot out of someone when he didn't have to.
Zimmerman shot in self defense. Martin wasn't beating up Zimmerman in self defense.
Martin could have walked away. He chose not to.
Martin was beating a mans head into the pavement when he didn't have to. He could have walked away.
Trayvon took the law into his own hands and jumped Zimmerman.
Zimmerman was walking back to his car.
you seem to know exactly what happened that night.
The fact is that we don't know what happened ..
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The fact is that we don't know what happened ..
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by habitforming
said the man who killed a black kid for no reason.
You don't think that self defense is a reason to shoot a 17 year old male who is attacking you?
To stop someone from bashing your head into the sidewalk and beating you?
Really??? Okay. Good to know.