Ron Paul for President!!!

reply to post by flashtrum


I will be blunt. I don't give a # who wins, if Ron does not. The only difference between obama and romney, is one is half black. That is the only difference. So why, would I, or any Ron Paul supporter buy into your idea of voting for romney? ......

reply to post by muzzleflash


I was thinking the same thing exactly, but I held my tongue for the sake of peace. The OP argued with me for pages and called me a socialist, democrat, Obama supporter, etc because I told him/her they have no idea what they are talking about in regards to the Occupy protests (which I supported along side Ron Paul).

OP Ron Paul supports Occupy, Occupy is not pro communist, pro socialist, pro- Obama or anything else. They are actually anti- Obama for the most part and Ron Paul was the only candidate I saw represented at the Occupy I attended.

I am hoping that your new found support for Ron Paul will open your eyes to the truth of the Occupy protest which goes hand in hand with Paul's libertarian revolution. Maybe even consider a less shameful avatar.

Anyway..
Occupy.
Ron Paul 2012

Originally posted by Davian

Originally posted by grantbeed
I love ron Paul, but will he ever be President?

No

What you focus on expands my friend.
Keep thinking that way and he never will be.

Nice Zen like quote but the man lives in reality. If we want change it has to start locally and not get high jacked like the Tea Party. Again, please look at 1992 from whatever political spectrum you come from. Ross Perot handed the election to Clinton, Good, bad, or indifferent this is the truth. 2012 Paul ran as a republican, and lost (and I voted for him). Not enough people did. I want to look at our country and our system as the way it is supposed to be, too - but supporting Paul now repeats 1992. Again, good, bad, or indifferent. (Because I voted for Bush but recognize that Clinton was a decent POTUS). What is different this time is I already know what I am getting in Barry and um, no thanks to four more. People, it is extremely telling that none of his ads focus on accomplishments. None of his ads explain his next 4 years. All they do is slam Romney. Pay attention to that. He can't run on his record, and his plan is to continue to try to stimulus this economy literally to death. Sorry Barry - it's not working. Hoping enough people wake up to that.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


Here is a good way to get people to vote for the right guy. Just ask them who are they going to vote for. Then ask why.

Then give them more options so that they have a clearer view of what to do.

This is my opinion.

reply to post by FreedomCommander


I would have agreed with you months ago. Since then I have run my experiment on a few people. One person on this site even. I have asked a adamant Romney supporter why they support him and they never answer. They will ignore you, deflect, blame Obama, lie. Anything BUT actually answering. They don't know.

I have tried to point this out and explain and narrow down the question, but nothing works. They want to remain ignorant.

XYZD

Ron Paul is why I cannot vote for Ron Paul. The man brings alot to the table however his inability to strike basic compromise invalidates him for me. This is something any truly great politician is expected to do, and he can't do it. I want leaders that can say " I see where your coming from and yes it is a problem, these are my concerns".

reply to post by KeliOnyx


what exactly do you want him to comprimise on?

That man has tried everything in his power to get down to the bottom of the corruption- Yet BOTH PARTIES
defy the man.

He comprimises- just not on corruption.

This is the kind of results you get when you take the LYING CHEATING mainstream media out
of the polling equation........there are very few actual MITT ROMNEY supporters..........

......and this is a poll of OVER SEVENTEEN THOUSAND PEOPLE........

(note: I find it very interesting that Mitt Romney can't even muster a second place finish, polling
at only a measly two percent, and yet ~somehow~ the MSM has him as the frontrunner....and
our rigged voting system supports what the MSM is reporting..................it would be a LOL if it
weren't such a STUNNING example of how corrupt the MSM has become)

In fact, if you gave this poll an UNBELIEVABLE plus or minus rating of FORTY PERCENT and
then took all forty percent from Ron Paul and gave all forty percent to Romney...he would still lose
to Ron Paul



GO RON FOR PRESIDENT......still contributing to his campaign....still voting ONLY for him

Originally posted by KeliOnyx
Ron Paul is why I cannot vote for Ron Paul. The man brings alot to the table however his inability to strike basic compromise invalidates him for me. This is something any truly great politician is expected to do, and he can't do it. I want leaders that can say " I see where your coming from and yes it is a problem, these are my concerns".

I'm sorry to hear you say that....as President Ron Paul wouldn't need the ability to compromise.
In fact, in my opinion, it would be a weakness. Vote for him, give him veto power, give him a chance
to prove his effectiveness....a congressman needs political compromise, a president needs principle and
conviction

reply to post by thehoneycomb


More ppl that need to watch "Hacking Democracy"

The voting machines are rigged, and it was caught on film,
and the hacks have been demonstrated.

We have the illusion of choice.

Originally posted by dayve
I think i'd rather have Bush president again than ron paul... But we got better options, Mr. OBAMA....

Oh. The guy that invented 'bushisms'? The guy that signed the order to invade Iraq in 2003 because of their weapons of mass destruction? The guy that signed into law the patriot act and guantanamo? The guy that sent out a 700 million dollar stimulus package and chopped down trees with his chainsaw and played golf most of the presidency? The guy who won the election in 2000 because his dad was friends with the supreme court, who decided the vote? The guy whose family is friends with billionaires in saudi arabia? That guy?

Versus...

The man thats against the patriot act because it destroys our civil liberties in this country.
The man that speaks with intelligence so much it runs circles around the less smart.
The guy that was against going to Iraq in 2003 and believes in a non interventionist foreign policy.
The guy that wants a declaration of war from congress before we go to war.
The guy whose net worth is a little over 2 or 3 million dollars at the moment.
The guy who is incorruptible and believes in our constitution and all the good that this country stands for...
Or do you just want your social services so you don't have to take responsibility for your own actions? Then again people like that could move to communist china. They make sure EVERYONE gets a piece of the pie too!
If you give up even just a little of your liberty for security, then your not going to have either one soon.
WAKE UP!

If Ron Paul became president he would be promptly assassinated and replaced by a puppet. The American people wouldn't do anything about it either, like normal.

I don't really want him to be president. He can do much more good alive than dead.

Ron Paul is as they say, too good to be true, its so obvious that he is the Michael Moore of politics. Created by corporations to give us common people a hero in this time of outrage. I fell in love with RP last year and watched every video I could find on the man and in doing so I noticed a few things. I watched him during a debate say that he would not have a problem making all drugs legal, then the commentator asked "The Dr", "you mean to say that you would let Heroin be legal?" RP replied, "sure, I don't have a problem, just because it would be legal doesn't mean that people will do it". I thought the response was candid, and the crowd applauded him. Maybe a week and a half later he was on The Daily Show and JS asked him why in the world did he say that he would legalize Heroin? RP replied, "I NEVER said that". Right then I caught him in a lie, and the pieces started to fit the Michael Moore mold the more I thought about it. He IS from Texas, that should be a red flag first off, if you trust anything from a political standpoint from there then you are much braver than I am. Texas is not Nazi Germany but the last president from there left a bad taste of "terra" in my mouth. The other obvious "hoax" I come to realize is that RP is very simplly "A Politician", its like he's a new model of car from the same factory as the other cars, with better gas mileage.
I do believe this country needs to change, but in a sense that I feel we should have a leader that isn't from politics, that is from the people, I know it is a dangerous thing to say but I simply cannot believe 1 person in our Gov at all, not one. I am not saying I want to start all over, but it seems like there aren't many options left. Go back to no cars, no electricity and live of our lands? If it brings back personal freedoms and keeps chips out of everyones children, then yes. I dare you to read the Declaration of Independence and not cry. I am sorry but I cannot believe Ron Paul is our knight in shining armor when he rides from the same stable as the black knight.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb

Lets campaign for Ron Paul in 2012 through social media! Life is not about money and power or who raises the most campaign money especially when you don't have any, so lets help fix it.

If you were to ask me yesterday "Hey, Ceuervo, would you ever star and flag a thread from a dude who's avatar is rockin' the Hitler stache?", I would have said "Hell no". But you proved my retroactive-assed self all sorts of hell wrong.

If Dr. Paul gets his 15 minutes of primary coverage that he's entitled to, then I'll do my best to promote the crap out of him. However, if he's silenced as I expect him to be, I'm just gonna promote for who I feel is the lesser of the evils, as will the rest of our nation.

As far as voting... if I feel Obama will win between Romney and Obama, I'll vote for Dr. Paul. But if it looks like Romney is leading... sorry, gonna vote for Obama. I can't risk getting Mittens in my White House.

If I had a magic wand (which I do but it just doesn't affect politics), I'd just put Dr. Paul in the House... but I don't so I gotta play my vote realistically. I really really really really hope there will be a movement that gains ground against the two war parties but I'm not holding my breath.

Your going to vote for evil.

Originally posted by PlayOnwards
Ron Paul is as they say, too good to be true, its so obvious that he is the Michael Moore of politics. Created by corporations to give us common people a hero in this time of outrage. I fell in love with RP last year and watched every video I could find on the man and in doing so I noticed a few things. I watched him during a debate say that he would not have a problem making all drugs legal, then the commentator asked "The Dr", "you mean to say that you would let Heroin be legal?" RP replied, "sure, I don't have a problem, just because it would be legal doesn't mean that people will do it". I thought the response was candid, and the crowd applauded him. Maybe a week and a half later he was on The Daily Show and JS asked him why in the world did he say that he would legalize Heroin? RP replied, "I NEVER said that". Right then I caught him in a lie, and the pieces started to fit the Michael Moore mold the more I thought about it. He IS from Texas, that should be a red flag first off, if you trust anything from a political standpoint from there then you are much braver than I am. Texas is not Nazi Germany but the last president from there left a bad taste of "terra" in my mouth. The other obvious "hoax" I come to realize is that RP is very simplly "A Politician", its like he's a new model of car from the same factory as the other cars, with better gas mileage.
I do believe this country needs to change, but in a sense that I feel we should have a leader that isn't from politics, that is from the people, I know it is a dangerous thing to say but I simply cannot believe 1 person in our Gov at all, not one. I am not saying I want to start all over, but it seems like there aren't many options left. Go back to no cars, no electricity and live of our lands? If it brings back personal freedoms and keeps chips out of everyones children, then yes. I dare you to read the Declaration of Independence and not cry. I am sorry but I cannot believe Ron Paul is our knight in shining armor when he rides from the same stable as the black knight.

Although you have only made two posts so far on ATS, your post gave me some hope for the human race.

My theory is that politics have become so bad these days, you could win an election by refusing to wear a suit and tie. That's just a figure of speech by the way, although partially literal.

But if I ever run for anything, I will use this to my advantage. I will not be wearing a suit and tie, so to speak.
It's almost unfair how great an advantage it can be.

You don't even need funding either, you can use social media to do all of the communication. You just have to find the right pathway to get the ball rolling.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


I agree with that, those that don't know what they are doing are more better off voting for some jerk of a dumbhead into office.

I mean, we at least know what we are doing, right?

reply to post by thehoneycomb

I have come up with two campaign slogans. These I believe will be needed post-RNC, when the Republicrats refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of Ron Paul's efforts.

Write In
Right In
Ron Paul

and

Seven Letters:
R-O-N-P-A-U-L

I plan on having a few bumper stickers made with these phrases, but I 'm having a hard time finding enough support to warrant a bulk purchase.

Originally posted by flashtrum
I'm interested in your solution that allows me to vote for a 3rd party candidate and feel like he's going to have a prayer. I vomit thinking about the lesser of two evils as well but that's pretty much the way it's been for at least 20 years,

see how swallowing the lie can make you sick? That's integrity leaving your body.

I vote on principle and for the person I consider has the best answers to fix this country. I don't try to strategize my vote by who has the best prayer. It doesn't matter either way as long as tptb are still in power. What it's going to take to change that I don't know, maybe you do? Hope you don't say vote for Obamney