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Costa Rica's Massive Ancient Star Chart?

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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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My mother went there to Costa Rica six years ago. She said they people there claim the chinese made them as ship balasts and left them behind ... I thought that was just an explaination the locals give out for the unexplained. The rocks are supposedly perfectly round and are located everywhere. I wonder what they would look like from space if they were painted with flourescent paint that could be seen by a lizzard person or by black light by aliens to guide them along? Such as the painted pottery and other rock objects Klaus Donnas talks about in his art ompart art lectures.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 04:08 PM
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I just wanted to thank everybody for posting their replies and providing us with their views and opinions.

Awesome

Thanks again



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:18 PM
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Very Interesting indeed.

As far as the stones go- I wounder if in-depth detail of the properties have been done.. Now I was reading upon all this and first thing I was thinking was possible Portal(s) to other "houses" ( Bhāvas )

Now - The scribe's in the stones with the constellations and the stars make me more in depth- spiritual connection. Yes, im talking about "realms" and other possible "worlds" that could be opened; physical and emotional / spiritual worlds. There is so much depth i could go on about but i just simply want to clarify history and how things are so well connected. Now take the "Ancient Tablets" for example.. (www.bibliotecapleyades.net...) They each have great meaning supposedly too Throth, The Atlantean- was solely connected to Egypt. Throth Raised the empirical society into a great civilization. In much you would have to digg a little yourself..

Much things take basic "elements" of surprises; and, can too, add up on solely whats connected.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:24 PM
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Wow! Very informative! I wonder what they are all about and had no idea there was another one discovered. Makes one wonder and wonder a lot! Lol

Again, good job on the thread and thank you so much for the lesson!!

This part touched me!


I have no doubt that man of that period with no TV, Movies, Interwebs etc etc etc probably enjoyed their free night time just with a camp fire and would look up and ask in amazement 'what’s it all about?' I know I still ask that....


The nights I gazed at the stars are the ones I remember most!

And the thought of whats it all about is always there.....



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:41 PM
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Hi Slayer! It's good to see another thread. Like different issues from Isaac Asimov, Reader's Digest, National Geographic, or SI's Swimsuit Edition, your threads seem to delight everyone who has a look.


At first thought, I imagined that these spheres would have been used as markers, depicting heavenly bodies as they appeared in the skies in ancient times. Then I asked myself, 'What else could they be?'

Obviously, as included in your thread as other ATS member comments that followed, there are a variety of ideas proposed as explanation to their existence. Since there doesn't seem to be any proof and/or solid evidence to confirm their purpose, I thought I'd share my idea about what the spheres and other odd, unidentified ancient objects could possibly be.

Although I do not know exactly how industrial or technologically advanced these civilizations were, they must have had high levels of intelligence and societal infrastructure to accomplish and create many things that are still in existence today.

In some instances, there are no absolute facts pointing to the function of those objects. Construction of the pyramids is probably the most commonly known and debated mysteries, but there are many others, including spheres that are the focus of your thread.

A civilization that no doubt supported commerce and a form of government would probably have some resemblance of industry. Some of the tools and methods to create the items commonly used in those times are still largely unknown. Maybe they are unknown because we associate industrial creation with modern tools and processes.

I think, maybe, this idea deserves At least a measure of consideration while searching for the true purpose of the mysterious spheres and other unidentified artifacts.

There are many different size spheres, maybe they were used as a sort of tool, or di (not sure the speeling
, meant like 'di-cast')

Maybe fires were built around the larger spheres, creating a very hot stone. They could have applied clay to the sphere and used the heat to cure it. Of course, it would have to be cut off the sphere to avoid breakage - or the clay would not be applied beyond the maximum radius of the sphere.

It could have been a form of 'ancient' mass production, where the stones would cure the clay bowls much quicker, since they would not need to be spun and molded... like a reverse kiln, if-you-will - and the different sizes could create... different size bowls, pots, etc

I do not mean to impress that I firmly believe this, but I believe it is possible that they were used some sort of tool. They could possibly be used in some other capacity to aid in industry or commerce of the time.

Entertainment has always captured the attention of you humans (haha, just-kidding, I know I am one of you humans too). It has traditionally been such a staple in our lives that, still to this day, we enable the brutal beatings and occasional death of willing competitor's

As entertainment is such an important aspect of modern life, we collectively find it socially acceptable to adorn our entertainers with rare and valuable material objects for free! - at the same time rewarding them with massive amounts of currency, regardless of the general population's financial peril or terrible health conditions for millions.

From professional athlete's to the current poster child for today's Pop Culture, entertainment careers remain one of the most coveted and sought after positions in modern society. Could it be possible that these spheres played a role in an entertainment venue of the time? Maybe they were part of a popular sporting event that spanned hundreds of miles?

I would doubt the entertainment aspect, but I think it deserves consideration as well.

One more crazy idea... maybe the spheres were some sort of fad. They may have even been a sort of hierarchy symbol, used to represent the owner's social status. As individuals progressed to higher and more respectable community positions, they may have received larger and larger spheres. When the symbols became obsolete, the spheres maybe have been buried or used for other purposes.

Sorry I don't have the links or descriptive knowledge to back-up those ideas, I just wanted to offer a different angle of view for researching the origins and purpose of the spheres and other mysterious ancient artifacts.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by esteay812
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"I do not mean to impress that I firmly believe this, but I believe it is possible that they were used some sort of tool. They could possibly be used in some other capacity to aid in industry or commerce of the time. "





I was also starting to think more about this.. a measurement of tool used for time... 3 spheres in a circle.. could indicate time/season maybe a tool too for-see?



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 07:55 PM
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Yes, I think that is also plausible. If it were a new discovery, it is not out of the realm of possibility to believe many people would want this tool.

A device to accurately measure something, like time, may have been demanded by citizens of each region.

Maybe the creators of the original spheres opened a business where they produced these spheres and sold them to other cities.

Like the car, light bulb, TV, Telephone, internet, Air Conditioner, running water, electricity, ice makers, microwaves, etc... the discovery to tell time in this manny could have been a sort of revolution, like the thigs previously listed



I think there should be another idea should be seriously investigated.

After closer examination, it has become quite apparent to me what they are.

Giants used to walk the Earth and these are clearly b.b.'s for their b.b. guns - maybe even pellets for their air soft guns....

really though, maybe they were some sort of ball bearing or part of a lever system...
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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No, no, no - you folk's read into everything toooo much.. They are not Ancient Star Charts - They are marbles, pool balls and crochet balls the Giants kids left laying around



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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Who has biggest statue?
Who has biggest pyramid?
Who has biggest sky scraper?
Who has biggest balls?

Throughout history men have challenged and competed with each other in a contest of the largest show of power, popularity and size.

We all know where the infatuation with size comes from...



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 10:15 PM
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Hey, Slayer, thanks for this one!

I, too, have been intrigued by these things since I was a lad.

I think your idea is very plausible, very plausible indeed. It makes a lot of sense.

I wonder if the original locations of the ones relocated to collections were recorded. Would be an awful shame if not... maybe the ones that went to museums were, at least.

Your theory reminded me just now of a site I read some years ago that looked at the Egyptian monuments as a group, all of them, now, up and down the Nile, not just the 'media stars;' and found that they indeed formed a complete star chart. I will definitely have to search for that now in hopes that it is still online.

Perhaps doing such a thing was not all that uncommon in our deep and hidden past...

This sort of thing excites me as you know, so thanks again and thanks to all those who've posted good data.

Peace unto you, John.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 03:23 AM
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Yet another good thread Slayer.

Glad to see this, one of my favorite mysteries, getting screen time again.

I still hold to the star map idea and the illustrations in the OP are interesting.

S and F.

Thanks for the shout-out, by the way.



Those Costa Ricans have got some big balls, eh?
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posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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Great thread and well put out Slayer69 you sure took a lot off efforts on this one you get a S & F from me



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

They are Back!







Not safe for people without a sense of humor.

Big Balls



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
I've read they were once thought to have gold at their centers, Stone Balls for Giants. Territory markers and property boundaries to demonstrate ancestral prestige for certain groups, families or tribes etc
...maybe Mr. Owl would know... a soft Tootsie Roll center perhaps?


Originally posted by facelift
Indeed...the opportunity to avoid light pollution in So Cal is a no-go, so every time I leave this county the first thing I do is look up.
...A bit of a jaunt perhaps, but you do have Palomar


I'd love to see some sort of world map that shows the distribution of these spheres as well as other stats. Has there been any theorizing with regard to their sizes? If they were a star map of sorts, wouldn't a smaller version be adequate? It seems that large scale relics often have an association (although postulated) with spiritual customs/rituals...

I know these spheres vary in size, but are impressive regardless. And anything impressive from the ancient world tends to be linked (by the modern set) to religion/celestial bodies/time/ or the afterlife....
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posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 01:14 PM
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Saw the title, clicked on it automatically.

Saw the thread author, star and flag before even starting to read.

Looking forward to another good read.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 02:48 AM
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Awesome as usual, Slayer.

I have an annoying love/hate thing with the threads you create. So many times when I've gotten the urge to compile all the info I've discovered on some interesting subject and write up a detailed piece with some pics and start an ATS thread, the ATS search tool tells me that topic has already been covered, in detail, by you.

Brief period of hatred ensues.

Then I come to my senses as the realization kicks in--here is a wealth of information on one of my favorite subjects, followed by pages of both learned commentary and catcalls from the nickel seats; furthermore, I am freed from the impetus to do any actual work(writing coherently about interesting stuff) and can instead indulge in decadent recreation(reading comprehensively about interesting stuff).
So I start reading the thread, and I inevitably love it. Your method of delivery makes it clear that you are offering a possible explanation in your interpretations and hypotheses, rather than 'handing down the Law' as it were...and that, combined with the large amount of relevant information/facts/evidence, makes your threads enjoyable to read even when one does not necessarily agree with your conclusions. So often I have begun reading a book on such subjects, only to find myself becoming more and more distrustful of the author as it becomes clear he or she is pushing a pet theory, until finally I have lost all faith in the author's objectivity and am obliged to put the book down unfinished, as I can no longer even take pleasure in the information in the book because I can't be sure it hasn't been distorted in some way.

Don't get me wrong, it's fine to form one's own theories on stuff. In fact, I think its great that people do that. My problem is that so many people run around talking about being 'scientific' and diligently and methodically collecting evidence proving their theories are right, when the scientific method for theories is actually about falsification, i.e. trying your best to prove your theory is wrong. Aside from being the technically correct method for testing a hypotheses, it is my personal opinion that falsification has psychological merits as well, in that it prevents an inevitable inflation of ego and arrogance of opinion developed by an endless parade of "look this also proves I'm right" resulting from a search for proof, while a search for disproof seems likely to encourage a more humble stance.
(On the other hand, the proponent of a theory that has withstood decades of rigorous attempts at falsification may be prone to developing an even more intractable arrogance; such a person could easily become convinced that all their ideas are just as impregnable--I have sometimes thought this delusion may plague the heights of academia. How would such a problem be corrected, or at least managed such that, if it occurred, it could not have an effect on science as a whole?)

Enough of my OT rambling. I have to say that this is one of your threads where I don't fully agree with your hypothesis, at least not in the sense that the spheres were part of a massive star chart. I could entertain the possibility that they were meant to represent celestial configurations, and have no problem with the "size equals apparent luminosity" given this assumption. But I would tend to think they would be "local" charts, meaning they did not have coherence as a single, massive chart, but perhaps the many separate small groups of them were indeed representations of sections of sky. I would also be inclined to think any such "charts" were symbolic, rather than absolute and thereby navigable. Even if they were a single, extremely accurate chart, representing the exact configuration of stars as seen from some specified spot at midnight on a specific solstice, they would still hardly be of use in navigation. Stars in the sky are useful nav tools, because its a lot easier to find places where you can see a great deal of the sky. Most of the ground, on the other hand, is blocked from view by other parts of the ground, making stars on the ground interesting when you come across them, but mostly useless for navigation. If you were lost and happened to stumble across a ground star or two, you're probably still lost.

On the other hand, objects like these have been found, with increasing frequency, worldwide. I remember, in particular, an account of a discovery in the 1920's or so, when a trolley line was being constructed through the hills in Santa Monica. They were using a steam-shovel(backhoe) to cut through one of the hills, and found a "cache" of what, from the pictures I recall, looked like over a hundred stone spheres, which came tumbling out of the depths of the hill being cut through. This was before the ones in Costa Rica were really known about. I'll have to dig around and see if I can find that incident in my files or on the web. If I do, I'll stick it up here.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 04:04 PM
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I heard some where that some of these sphere's have electromagnetism properties and cause fluxuations in magnetic fields maybe they are some type of super ancient organic conductors of sorts maybe even some spent fuel orbs from some type of ancient spacecraft who knows for sure?



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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some type of super ancient organic conductors of sorts


Organic rock?

By "electromagnetic" are you saying they held a current?

I can see an iron containing sphere being magnetic, but electro...?

Where did you hear this?
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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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I found this,

www.pcas.org...

Pretty good reading.


I remember seeing a huge stone coin once, is it possible that round stones were money?

The smoother and bigger the more valueable?

Just a thought.
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