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tanka418
Here is a 3d view based on the Hill map. It is from around 70 ly in the direction of Gliese 59.1
Its kind of interesting; all but 2 or 3 are "G" class stars, all are over 3 billion years, typically less than 6 billion.
Ross 54
Thank you, JadeStar, for all your good work in giving us the latest information on the star map stars. There are a few interesting exceptions to the generally older stars on it.
The route connecting Zeta 2 Reticuli to Gliese 86 and Tau 1 Eridani connects the supposed home star to stars only 2.3--3.6 and 2.4 billion years old, respectively.
Perhaps these star systems have been colonized from Zeta Reticuli. They appear too young for sentient life to have evolved there.
It appears that the inner habitable zone planet in the Tau Ceti system is in about the same situation as Venus, in our system. If it is to be considered habitable, it must have somehow escaped Venus' fate. How likely is that, and how might this have played out?
The outer HZ planet looks to be a somewhat worse case than Mars would be in a similar situation. Its greater mass , and the reasonable possibility of a relatively thick, heat-retaining atmosphere could tip the balance in its favor, it seems.
Could there be another Earth-like planet between planets e and f? Could it be dynamically stable there? Should such an additional planet have already been detected, if it exists?
Any thoughts on the hollow oval in the original Betty Hill star map? It lies roughly midway between Tau Ceti and Gliese 86.
JadeStar
I plan to have a hauntingly beautiful video ready to roll around Halloween (give or take a few days).
LightAssassin
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JadeStar, welcome to ATS.....I foresee a very knowledgeable soul, an open mind, and someone who can bring a lot to ATS.
You HAVE to put this in its own thread. Very very informative and going to be buried in this thread forever unless you release it.
Ross 54
I mentioned, and linked an image of the three dimensional context of the the Hill star map a while back. I refer to in in what follows, so I link to it again--www.ufoconspiracy.com/images/zbetty.gif
The Zeta Reticuli star system appears to be situated near the right hand wall of the applied cube, not far from the lower right corner. All the star routes extend either to the left, or away from the viewer. None reach to the right, or toward the point of view.
There are presumably Sun-like stars in those latter directions, within the same distance as the longest direct star trip, which is from Zeta 2 Reticuli to our Sun. One wonders at this. It does not seem likely to be a random occurrence, nor does appear calculated to reach the maximum number of Sun-like stars within a limited distance. Its almost as if certain directions of travel were being intentionally avoided.
I see several possible explanations for this. 1.) Zeta Reticuli could be on the edge of the territory of another civilization in space, which somehow constrains its travel in those areas. 2.) There is an actual lack of stars, or at least of Sun-like stars, in the neglected areas. 3.) We are seeing only a section of a larger chart. Other parts could cover the areas to the right, and foreground.
Any one of these possibilities is interesting in itself, but if the astrophysical explanation in 2.) can be confirmed, we would have fresh scientific data to support the validity of the map.
Ross 54
I see several possible explanations for this. 1.) Zeta Reticuli could be on the edge of the territory of another civilization in space, which somehow constrains its travel in those areas. 2.) There is an actual lack of stars, or at least of Sun-like stars, in the neglected areas. 3.) We are seeing only a section of a larger chart. Other parts could cover the areas to the right, and foreground.
Any one of these possibilities is interesting in itself, but if the astrophysical explanation in 2.) can be confirmed, we would have fresh scientific data to support the validity of the map.
tanka418
1. Sirian Orion Alliance (my name for them) is a larger and somewhat older faction.
2. Draconin civilization...the infamous Reptilians.
_BoneZ_
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You're preaching to the choir. Unless you replied to the wrong person.
2009 Post: 54 Piscium is an orange-red main-sequence dwarf star of spectral and luminosity type K0+ V. The star may have 79 percent of Sol's mass (exoplanets.org), 86 percent of its diameter (Johnson and Wright, 1983, page 645), and 46 to 49 percent of its luminosity. With a fairly long rotational period of 48 days compared with Sol that is suggestive of greater age
The orbit of an Earth-like planet with surface water would be centered within 0.68 AU -- around the orbital distance Venus in the Solar System -- and take around 240 days (two-thirds of a year) to complete. However, the inner, eccentric orbit of a giant planetary companion "b" recently discovered around 54 Piscium would probably disturb the orbit of such an Earth-type planet.
This companion should account for the inner saturn-sized planet very eccentric orbit. This discovery may shed some light on other star's inner planets curiously eccentric orbits, as those orbits could well be the result of undetected stellar companions. The presence of an earth-like planet capable of sustaining life is considered unlikely because of the potential disruptions on the habitable zone and on this planet orbit caused by the inner planet. However, as time teaches us, we discover more and more curiosities every day.