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INDYMEDIA UK SERVERS SIEZED BY FBI!

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posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 10:40 PM
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Jamuhn, good work. The source I had doesn't have much more to add that what you already quoted.

And SO, legal authority and actuall ability are two different things. The US illegally went into Iraq (according to the UN laws.)



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 10:42 PM
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mparent7777.blog-city.com...

amsterdam.nettime.org...


this one is the link to the pics, it seems they have some heavy traffic
www.andrew.cmu.edu...


Should this be moved to RATS?

[edit on 7-10-2004 by TrickmastertricK]

[edit on 7-10-2004 by TrickmastertricK]



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by TrickmastertricK
mparent7777.blog-city.com...

amsterdam.nettime.org...

www.andrew.cmu.edu...


Should this be moved to RATS?

[edit on 7-10-2004 by TrickmastertricK]


They JUST yanked those sites.

---------- is no longer responding to request. Did you get copies of the pictures?

*edit* ---------- is now down. That was the link with copy of the pics.
*edit #2* ------------- is now down as well.

*edit #3* removed links for good reasons.
[edit on 7-10-2004 by Quest]

[edit on 7-10-2004 by Quest]

[edit on 7-10-2004 by Quest]



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 10:51 PM
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Nope, I have the first two sites screenshots, I took em before I even looked at them, Im sseing if someone left the backdoor unlocked



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 10:52 PM
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What webpage were they after? Couldn't you Google it, and then click on the "Cached" link? Or use the Internet Archive "Wayback Machine"?



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by curme
What webpage were they after? Couldn't you Google it, and then click on the "Cached" link? Or use the Internet Archive "Wayback Machine"?


No cache. been there done that.



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by curme
What webpage were they after? Couldn't you Google it, and then click on the "Cached" link? Or use the Internet Archive "Wayback Machine"?


All right I'm officially creeped out now. When Skeptic originally started this thread I was surfing various sights on Indymedia and the Swiss undercover agents were on two sights - Italy Indymedia was one of them. I went back to get the link for curme and it's GONE.



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Bleys
All right I'm officially creeped out now. When Skeptic originally started this thread I was surfing various sights on Indymedia and the Swiss undercover agents were on two sights - Italy Indymedia was one of them. I went back to get the link for curme and it's GONE.



They wiped out all the main sites and the internet cashes in one fell swoop. I'm very impressed.



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:01 PM
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OK I got this far,

web.archive.org...://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/mtoups/

after the folder "mtoups" is supposed to be 'nantes' then a folder after that

Anyone Help?



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:02 PM
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OK, I spoke too soon. This is creeping me out as well.



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:03 PM
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Any6one know what this is all about?

web.archive.org...



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:07 PM
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Not in Archive

web.archive.org...://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/mtoups/nantes/copsinnantes

Well everything else seems to be!!!!!



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:15 PM
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Its pictures of the faces of two undercover cops working on a specific job.

The site had not only shown thier faces, but said what they working on.

That is why its being removed from the net. They are undercover and STILL on the job. Its a non-issue if you ask me. I personally have no reason to want to blow thier cover...



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by Quest
Its pictures of the faces of two undercover cops working on a specific job.

The site had not only shown thier faces, but said what they working on.

That is why its being removed from the net. They are undercover and STILL on the job. Its a non-issue if you ask me. I personally have no reason to want to blow thier cover...


Yep, just got to that part. I think this ius downgraded from VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY to simple over-application fo resources.

And once again, the Indymedia turns me farther and farther away from the 'truth'.


[edit on 10-7-2004 by Esoterica]



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:22 PM
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So, the Swiss didn't want their undercover officers identities made public (it would obviously hamper their jobs) so they asked the US to take down the websites?

And the scary part is how they did it (possibly illegally, maybe not, thanks to the Patriot Act), and what were the Swiss undercover cops doing in the first place (photographing protestors? Why?)? And why is the US is doing it for the Swiss in the first place?

Is that it? I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything, or maybe misunderstand. Regardless, I'm freaked out too!



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by Quest
Its pictures of the faces of two undercover cops working on a specific job.

The site had not only shown thier faces, but said what they working on.

That is why its being removed from the net. They are undercover and STILL on the job. Its a non-issue if you ask me. I personally have no reason to want to blow thier cover...


If that is the case, why not instead kill the pics and story off of those servers, as opposed to taking part of a livelyhood away?

If they have the power to take the servers in whole, they also have the power to take only what they feel is privy.

Misfit



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:29 PM
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OK, so the reason why the drives were taken is known. I would appreciate if the Indymedia would include that addendum in their press release.



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by curme
So, the Swiss didn't want their undercover officers identities made public (it would obviously hamper their jobs) so they asked the US to take down the websites?


That makes NO sense! And the siezure wouldn't hold up in any court!

This whole thing is screwy.



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:39 PM
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There has to be more to the story than a couple of undercover Swiss cops. If it was all about them - why not just yank the photos? Which BTW I think Indymedia was out of line for posting. It's fine to report there were agents at the G8 summit with the protestors but couldn't they have obscured their identities?

I am more curious about what the Feds think is on the harddrives. Also since Indymedia hasn't been given any information on the raid because the supoena was served on the Host - there may be other countries involved - like Interpol or Scotland Yard. Especially when you consider that it involved UK interests.




[edit on 10/7/04 by Bleys]



posted on Oct, 7 2004 @ 11:59 PM
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Is this related?

Anti-piracy group in Danish net sweep

"As part of a pan-European action against online pirating, the National Anti-Pirate Group earlier today sent out fine notices to 156 Danes"

They also say:

"Similar actions are currently been staged in England, France, Germany, Italy and Austria, bringing the total number of fines - including Denmark's -to 465."

Is it really about anti-piracy...? Or just a coverup for something else. They�ve had lots of "kiddy-porn" raids in Australia too. Seems like they raid computers everywhere, for one reason or another.


Anyway, here�s some info. Might be something you�ve already got.
Scoop FBI Seizes IMC Servers in the UK

At the bottom of the page they got the original photos of the cops...

[edit on 2004/10/8 by Hellmutt]



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