Beautiful Crop Circle: Italy June 25th 2012 : Alien Made or 2 Guys With A Board

Originally posted by gortex
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

Here's a nice complex one done in about six hours .

Um there's really nothing complex about that circle. There are far more complex circles that go completely un-notice.

Look at the production of the circle you posted. It's huge, several guys working on it with a huge spot light mounted on a crane to create a circle that's mediocre!

If this is what it takes to make a crop circle in the middle of the night then where are all of the photos and video of the more complex circles? In fact there's not even ONE claim of the geometrical perfect circles, zero photos, zero video, no eyewitness reports stating that they saw a large production of people in the middle of the night making a crop circle, but they go completely unreported, something as largely obvious like the one you posted how is that they go completely unnotice in the middle of the night? Does this logically make sense to you?

Not only that when you step inside of a circle that was man made, it looks rather man made, humans tend to leave footprints, debris, trackings, dimensions tend to be off, inner patterns appear to be interrupted, not only that they damage the crop. ET made crops are bent half way down preserving the life of the crop, geometrically perfect throughout the design.

I don' think anyone here is denying that humans don't make any of the circles, but lets be clear here that there's huge differences between ET made and man made. I suggest you start studying up on that.

Originally posted by Ectoplasm8

Originally posted by theMediator

Well, we didn't send em an English dictionary yet and they feel shapes is a better way of communicating with species which they know almost nothing of. Maybe we should send en STOP signs crop circles to be significant.

Again, plenty of large visual clues on earth how we communicate. I guess they just choose to make it hard for us, huh? Kind of a fun puzzle?

There is no correlation between IQ and opinion.
Your "common" sense isn't absolute and is based on emotions.

I toss "Logical Sense" out the window in reference to people saying aliens created these. So, I have to appeal to the more basic common sense that the average person has.

If Billy Bob believes everything that people tell him. Billy Bob not too smart.

Give me your unequivocal proof aliens had any part in creating these crop circles as some warning or communication with us. Strangely bent wheat stalks are an assumption, not proof of aliens. I'll guarantee I'd be waiting a long time for any proof.

What I do know is, as I said, there's 100% proof crop circles can be man made. There's no disputing that. So as any intelligent logical thinking person, you start at that point and work from it. You don't throw maybes or could-bes into an investigation and spread it like it's proof. How would you see someone that says crop circles are made by the ghosts of giant caterpillars that only travel at night? Ridiculous, right? Or do you have the "open mind" mindset and actually think that's plausible?

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Thank you for caring enough to share. I promise to weigh it carefully.
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BTW, i see that you registered 12 - 6 - 2011.

Oddly, you have very few posts. Hmmmm.....

You appear to show up very rarely to throw cold water on anyone who proposes the idea that

aliens are among us.

It's almost as if you have a specific agenda.

I don't think you will succeed here on ATS. Most of us have already made up our minds.

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The Grays and the Pleiadians are here.

I think the Reptilians are also here but they don't bother with crop circles.

I'm not here to befriend or change anyone's mind. I'm just speaking my mind and trying to understand the choice to be ignorant of solid proof and go by the way of what-could-be as the truth.

Very stereotypical skeptical post. Instead of asking for people to hand feed you truth why don't you use your equivocal logical brain to unveil it for you? What is ignorant is that you don't know how to put 2 and 2 together. There's much "proof" out there, but what is proof for you? I don't know what you expect, do you want like a photo or something of an alien with a wooden plank to validate as "proof"

Have you ever asked yourself

Where are all the circles that go un-done because they get screwed up during the process?
Where are all the photos and video from the public that spotted a production crew making the circles?
Why do many geometrically perfect circles go un-claimed when they are works of art. Usually artist love to show off their artwork.
How do circles get created over night completely unnotice even by the owner of the property?
Why do some circles have high radiation levels? Are we to assume that man made crop circle makers are now equipped with radioactive planks?
If it's soooo obvious that these are man made, why are there scientific research groups out there gather evidence and writing PEERED REVIEW articles? Does that make logical sense to you?

There's many many questions that you need to ask yourself, do a little research, learn to REASON and you can start stitching this entire ET, inter-dimensional phenonmenons together.

Anyhow since you expect everyone here to hand feed you information. You can start here
www.bltresearch.com...

reply to post by samaka

Where are all the photos and video from the public that spotted a production crew making the circles?

Here's a link to them filming themselves in action and showing how they plan their works .
www.circlemakerstv.org...

Why do many geometrically perfect circles go un-claimed when they are works of art. Usually artist love to show off their artwork.

See the above link

post by samaka
but lets be clear here that there's huge differences between ET made and man made. I suggest you start studying up on that.

I have studied up on it ...crop circles are a real phenomena and have been reported for centuries , but they were just circles in the crop , crop art is a relatively new invention and without doubt created by Humans .
Real crop circles probably still occur but go unnoticed as they don't have the visual appeal of the impressive crop art we see today .

Here's a 17th century English woodcut called the Mowing-Devil which depicts the devil with a scythe mowing a circular design in a field of oats

LOL i personally gave up on these a long time ago... ruffly the time a 76 year old said he did a few of the circles with 2 pieces of rope and a plank... < Face Plus Palm for feeding us crap.


Nice circle though.

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

-- Advanced alien races have reached the Earth in numbers and diversity. --

Yes, I realize that, but which ones specifically are doing the circles? Any ideas?

Yes, the Grays are making the crop circles near Stonehenge.

It appears the Pleiadians are making crop circles in Italy.

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The Reptilians haven't made any crop circles yet.

The reptillians aren't very artistic

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What do you think about claims of the alien agenda?

www.alliesofhumanity.org... verse.html

The subtle messages in the crop circles are preparing us for first contact.

Eventually, a Gray representative will appear at the White House.

The Pleiadians walk among us today. They look like us.

Both the Grays and the Pleiadians travel in cigar shaped beamships that allow them

to travel between worlds in just hours.

December 2012 should be very exciting.

Originally posted by samaka

Originally posted by Ectoplasm8

Originally posted by theMediator

Well, we didn't send em an English dictionary yet and they feel shapes is a better way of communicating with species which they know almost nothing of. Maybe we should send en STOP signs crop circles to be significant.

Again, plenty of large visual clues on earth how we communicate. I guess they just choose to make it hard for us, huh? Kind of a fun puzzle?

There is no correlation between IQ and opinion.
Your "common" sense isn't absolute and is based on emotions.

I toss "Logical Sense" out the window in reference to people saying aliens created these. So, I have to appeal to the more basic common sense that the average person has.

If Billy Bob believes everything that people tell him. Billy Bob not too smart.

Give me your unequivocal proof aliens had any part in creating these crop circles as some warning or communication with us. Strangely bent wheat stalks are an assumption, not proof of aliens. I'll guarantee I'd be waiting a long time for any proof.

What I do know is, as I said, there's 100% proof crop circles can be man made. There's no disputing that. So as any intelligent logical thinking person, you start at that point and work from it. You don't throw maybes or could-bes into an investigation and spread it like it's proof. How would you see someone that says crop circles are made by the ghosts of giant caterpillars that only travel at night? Ridiculous, right? Or do you have the "open mind" mindset and actually think that's plausible?

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Thank you for caring enough to share. I promise to weigh it carefully.
-------
BTW, i see that you registered 12 - 6 - 2011.

Oddly, you have very few posts. Hmmmm.....

You appear to show up very rarely to throw cold water on anyone who proposes the idea that

aliens are among us.

It's almost as if you have a specific agenda.

I don't think you will succeed here on ATS. Most of us have already made up our minds.

-------
The Grays and the Pleiadians are here.

I think the Reptilians are also here but they don't bother with crop circles.

I'm not here to befriend or change anyone's mind. I'm just speaking my mind and trying to understand the choice to be ignorant of solid proof and go by the way of what-could-be as the truth.

Very stereotypical skeptical post. Instead of asking for people to hand feed you truth why don't you use your equivocal logical brain to unveil it for you? What is ignorant is that you don't know how to put 2 and 2 together. There's much "proof" out there, but what is proof for you? I don't know what you expect, do you want like a photo or something of an alien with a wooden plank to validate as "proof"

Have you ever asked yourself

Where are all the circles that go un-done because they get screwed up during the process?
Where are all the photos and video from the public that spotted a production crew making the circles?
Why do many geometrically perfect circles go un-claimed when they are works of art. Usually artist love to show off their artwork.
How do circles get created over night completely unnotice even by the owner of the property?
Why do some circles have high radiation levels? Are we to assume that man made crop circle makers are now equipped with radioactive planks?
If it's soooo obvious that these are man made, why are there scientific research groups out there gather evidence and writing PEERED REVIEW articles? Does that make logical sense to you?

There's many many questions that you need to ask yourself, do a little research, learn to REASON and you can start stitching this entire ET, inter-dimensional phenonmenons together.

Anyhow since you expect everyone here to hand feed you information. You can start here
www.bltresearch.com...

edit on 15-7-2012 by samaka because: (no reason given)

So everyone here is just taking everyone elses word that they are alien based. No one has first hand experience with aliens swirling around and laying down a crop circle. Of course, exactly as I suspected. We have to take the word of the word of the word of some person/people from somewhere that we know nothing about. I'm looking for a personal experience to back up all your claims and I've yet to see one. Not what someone else told you or what you read on the internet. Continue to grasp onto what you're told as if that's proof. Nothing incredibly naive or gullible in that.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

reply to post by Eurisko2012


'Eventually, a Gray representative will appear at the White House. "

Had a great laugh with that one. Americans... you think your the freaking light of the earth... if a grey came to earth and went to the white house first... it will be an invasion for sure. because we all love the ideas and inventions of the Americans... but we hate the Americans as a people.

hahah "Eventually, a Gray representative will appear at the White House. " yea... that's what the crop circles mean. hahah.

reply to post by Ectoplasm8


Hey, you're up to 15 posts here at ATS!

Don't worry i'll have Pleiadians/Atlanteans make you a huge crop circle at 1PM on

a sunny day right in front of CNN, Fox News and the New York Times.

You know what they say. Seeing is believing.

I'll post the video on YouTube.

Originally posted by Aarcadius
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

'Eventually, a Gray representative will appear at the White House. "

Had a great laugh with that one. Americans... you think your the freaking light of the earth... if a grey came to earth and went to the white house first... it will be an invasion for sure. because we all love the ideas and inventions of the Americans... but we hate the Americans as a people.

hahah "Eventually, a Gray representative will appear at the White House. " yea... that's what the crop circles mean. hahah.

Yes, the Grays wish to have - Communion -.

What are you afraid of?

You can take a quick at Alien Autopsy.

They look like small humanoids. It likes like a hybrid Gray/human.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


although most of your post makes no sense, the little laughing face and the autopsy video + you wanting the encounter with the greys I've put it together.

you've miss understood me. its fine if aliens come down and bring peace or war... However it has not happened yet and i refuse to hear that it is common sense that it will happen in America... even the aliens would wanna avoid that pile of =D well... you know.

Originally posted by Aarcadius
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

'Eventually, a Gray representative will appear at the White House. "

Had a great laugh with that one. Americans... you think your the freaking light of the earth... if a grey came to earth and went to the white house first... it will be an invasion for sure. because we all love the ideas and inventions of the Americans... but we hate the Americans as a people.

hahah "Eventually, a Gray representative will appear at the White House. " yea... that's what the crop circles mean. hahah.

Aarcadius, this gentleman does not truely believe this stuff. He wants to engage in a lively discussion about things that are interesting and entertaining, but there is nothing to back up 90% of what he mentions.

That being said, I do admire him for sticking to it and having quite the imagination. And I do agree with him on one thing - December 2012 will be great! My birthday is early in the month, and of course who can forget Christmas and New Year's Eve. Great month!

reply to post by Aarcadius


The Grays crashed in New Mexico back in July 1947?

That's old news. Stop by the town of Magdalena, NM and ask them if a spacecraft

crashed nearby. Watch what they say.

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The Grays also have an underground base on the southwest end of Puerto Rico.

There was a hard to explain away battle between 2 F-14s and a Triange UFO

December 28, 1988 7:30 PM.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012


www.alliesofhumanity.org... verse.html

The subtle messages in the crop circles are preparing us for first contact.

Eventually, a Gray representative will appear at the White House.

The Pleiadians walk among us today. They look like us.

Both the Grays and the Pleiadians travel in cigar shaped beamships that allow them

to travel between worlds in just hours.

December 2012 should be very exciting.

There is nothing exciting about the gray collective interfering in our affairs and creating a hybrid race to take over the planet.

Our friends, the "Allies of Humanity", who desire nothing from us, and have been through this process before themselves and are warning us of the insidiousness of the intervention on our planet.

Grays are interfering with us because the need access to our biological and other natural resources, and are not allowed to invade with direct military force.

They are pacifying humankind.

They abduct people, many don't return, many are used for intergalactic trade in organs and life fluids, and many women are used for breeding in the hybrid program (they didn't actually state this last one - but the Zeta's have admitted to this)

According to the "Allies of Humanity", humans need to wake the flock up, and:

1. Achieve Unity and cooperation throughout the world independent of any alien associations.

2. Achieve self-sufficience with our resources - according to them at the rate we are growing and using them they will run out soon, then we will be at the mercy of alien races for survival.

3. Achieve discretion in our activities that could be noticed by our nearby aliens - apparently we live in a fairly busy area of the galaxy - and due to our open communications all the neighbouring races know our strengths and weaknesses and have little regard for us due to the way we treat our planet.

Only when these three goals have been accomplished will we be ready for more advanced and peaceful contact.

If you would like to learn the truth about the alien agenda, start here:

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


The Grays created a hybrid race.

Now they want a family reunion. What's wrong with that?

What are you afraid of?

If they wanted to enslave the human population don't you think they would have

done it long ago?

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

The Grays created a hybrid race.

Now they want a family reunion. What's wrong with that?

What are you afraid of?

If they wanted to enslave the human population don't you think they would have

done it long ago?

The grays have lied to us. They need us, we don't need them. If they are so great, why have they interfered with the free will of so many humans in abductions? No ally of humanity would do that. Watch the videos if you are interested in knowledge and truth and the potential greatness of the human race. If you want to be no more than human cattle, keep buying into their pacification and take-over program.

Its a fake!

You can see the direction of the people ( whom ever made it )...

There wouldnt be all squashed down in a circle.. it would be singed...

Am i right? plz correct me.

Thanks

reply to post by Eurisko2012




Your complete blind belief that aliens created these shapes is disturbing. Your mind is closed to the idea that man made these shapes because you say they are too difficult to create? That is so narrow minded to think it's beyond man's ability to make these shapes when man has created so many works of art far surpassing these crop shapes. I believe you are cult fodder as your mind believes in extreme unlikeliness way too easily.

As has been said previously, it's been proven that man can make these crop shapes, actual real proof. Where's your proof that aliens created these shapes? No where is the answer because it doesn't exist.

Originally posted by 0rbital
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

Your complete blind belief that aliens created these shapes is disturbing. Your mind is closed to the idea that man made these shapes because you say they are too difficult to create? That is so narrow minded to think it's beyond man's ability to make these shapes when man has created so many works of art far surpassing these crop shapes. I believe you are cult fodder as your mind believes in extreme unlikeliness way too easily.

As has been said previously, it's been proven that man can make these crop shapes, actual real proof. Where's your proof that aliens created these shapes? No where is the answer because it doesn't exist.

If you had read the thread you would know where the proof is. Man cannot duplicate the intergrowth that occurs overnight in the stalks, only seen in ET made circles and not in man made ones:



Also, did you happen to notice the statement that is at the top of every page in this forum? So, what did you expect to find in this section?

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reply to post by PhoenixOD


I think the middle one

is shopped .. IMO.. look @ the ski poles shadows..

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

The Grays created a hybrid race.

Now they want a family reunion. What's wrong with that?

What are you afraid of?

If they wanted to enslave the human population don't you think they would have

done it long ago?

The grays have lied to us. They need us, we don't need them. If they are so great, why have they interfered with the free will of so many humans in abductions? No ally of humanity would do that. Watch the videos if you are interested in knowledge and truth and the potential greatness of the human race. If you want to be no more than human cattle, keep buying into their pacification and take-over program.

The Grays are dying.

They wanted to create a hybrid race.

It's already done. Now they want communion. What are you afraid of?

Now is not the time for fear.