Could the Ark been some sort of Capacitor?

Its very easy to build a box with the ability to hold enormous elctrical current. I don't know if this is the actual case of the ark as we haven't ever seen it, but it was something they could have built at the time. If you would like to know how to build such an ark, let me know and I will U2U you or post it here.

LOL What I think most of us would like to know is, how do you build such a thing, on a budget??

Gold-lining a box the size of a casket isn't something MY pocket book smiles at.

Originally posted by Toelint
LOL What I think most of us would like to know is, how do you build such a thing, on a budget??

Gold-lining a box the size of a casket isn't something MY pocket book smiles at.

Here's some scripture that talks about how the Hebrews gained gold that could of possibly been used for the ark.

Exodus 11:2

2 Speak now in the hearing of the people, that they ask, every man of his neighbor and every woman of her neighbor, jewelry of silver and of gold.

Exodus 12:35-36

35 The people of Israel had also done as Moses told them, for they had asked of the Egyptians jewelry of silver and of gold, and clothing; 36 and the LORD had given the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they let them have what they asked. Thus they despoiled the Egyptians.

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Anybody out there familiar with Wilhelm Reich and his orgone accumulators?
It's design also sounds much like a capacitor, or like the arc.

Wilhelm Reich developed a metal-lined device named the Orgone Accumulator, believing that the box trapped orgone energy that he could harness.

In 1940, Wilhelm Reich constructed the first device to accumulate orgone energy: a six-sided box constructed of alternating layers of organic materials (to attract the energy) and metallic materials (to radiate the energy toward the center of the box).

It's just a thought. I don't know much about Reich, except that he is sometimes mentioned along with Tesla as underappreciated. The orgone energy that he talks about does not sound powerful enough to account for the effects of the arc. But I also seem to recall that Reich talked about "deadly orgone energy" that accumulated when a radioactive source was put in the box, even from a source as small as the radium on a watch dial.

I personally think the capacitor idea is alot more likely. I just thought I would offer this as a interesting sidebar.
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[edit on 18-10-2004 by cimmerius]

Well I had allaws made fun of conspiracy theorists.., and in this case I definetly have to.
There in the ark, probably was just some radioactive ore, someone found 2500 years ago

Originally posted by Pavel
Well I had allaws made fun of conspiracy theorists.., and in this case I definetly have to.
There in the ark, probably was just some radioactive ore, someone found 2500 years ago

How can you be so sure? Can you provide an explination to your statement?

Howdy folks...

Interesting theroy...

Yes it would be a very large cap in size, unfortunatly it would have a very low capacatance...

Before you flame let me explain...

In order to get the capacatance, you use this formula...

C=8.85x.00000000001xDCxA
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D

Where
DC =Dielectric contance
A=Area of plates in Meters
D=distance between the plates in meters

The only thing we don't know is the DC of the Acadia wood, but for an example let's use maple which has a DC of 4.4 ( the highest I've found so far on the web )...

So to break it down lets use 1 inch for the distance and maple for the DC...

8.85x.00000000001x4.4x.537891228 ( the area in meters )
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.0254 ( assuming 1 inch in meters )

=.00000000824625308 farads or 8246.25308 pico farads

Not a very big cap, for storing such a reported amount of charge...

Now if we knew the DC of the actual wood, we could calculate the actual capacatance of the Ark...


In my opinion it would have to have the DC of Barium-strontium titanite which is 7500, to even come close to storing that much power...


[edit on 2-11-2004 by Jedi_Master]

The Knights Templar were known to hold ceremonies involving "guilt skulls", perhaps including even that of Mary Magdelene and John the Baptist....

As allready mentioned, a capacitor consists of two opposingly charged layers seperated by an insulator. Old records, including official transcripts of the trial of Grandmaster Jaque Molay, mention the veneration of "guilt heads"- skulls covered with gold or silver, and lined on the inside with lead- [an ancient method of assasination was pouring molten lead into the ear of the sleeping victim...]

Dry bone is an excellent electrical insulator, and the human skull cavity is convieniently shaped. If these Templar Skulls were not ancient ritual capacitors, they well would have worked as such.....

Could a leyden jar function as a power source? It seems pretty close to a "free energy" device or something...

Any reason it wouldn't work?

JM--thanks for the equation.

No prob on the formula...

As far as leyden jar's I haven't done a hole lot of reasearch on them, but to answer your question, yes they can store a charge ( in earlier days they were called a condensor ( precursor to the capacitor )...

As far as free energy...don't know, you would still need a way to charge it...

But in thinking about it, a potatoe can run a small clock...

www.unit5.org...

So maybe somehow you could therorectily build a self charging leyden jar ( never thought about it untill now ), using potatoe slivers as the dielectric ??

Hmmm...I'll haveto think about it...sounds interesting though...

Originally posted by Toelint
LOL Okay, now I was thinking of something else. The Holy of Holies was a tent made of various skins and vails that surrounded the Ark. Now, as I recall one article on Leydan Jars, the charge was transferred to the Jar by rubbing a plactic rod with a rabbit skin, then touching the rod to the ball atop of the Jar.

Could the Holy of Holies tent, with all that fur and silk and metal, have been the method of recharging the Ark? Hmmm...

[edit on 3-11-2004 by Toelint]

Okay, it's not exactly free energy, but it would most certainly work for recharging a leyden jar...why not an Ark?

I find my self leaning to the ark as some type of Capacitor. It was made of gold perhaps the best conductor of electricty and was carried with wood poles one of the best insulators at the time.

It was created by a man schooled in Eygpt people that were very advanced for their time. Could have been something he learned about while growing up there.

People could make batteries even back then

The Baghdad Battery

2000 years old and when filled with an acidic electrolyte the ancient cell produced a voltage of around 2 volts.


www.smith.edu...
www.akri.org...

There was a pretty indepth discussion about this earlier.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

There are many stories of "amazing miracles" in the Bible. Is it possible that these were just accounts of people experiencing technology that they didn't understand at the time?

Sometimes technology can be used to envoke scare tactics into the general public and provoke them into thinking a certain way.

Propaganda...media...but what about technological inventions, like batteries?

How would you feel if you found out today that the Ark of the Covenant was powered on batteries and a brilliant marketing campaign.

Try doing a search on the "Baghdad Batteries". There was a special on this on the television show, "MythBusters".

Yes and it has been replicated by someone, go do some research on google! Its there somewhere.

Originally posted by GreenT
There are many stories of "amazing miracles" in the Bible. Is it possible that these were just accounts of people experiencing technology that they didn't understand at the time?

Sometimes technology can be used to envoke scare tactics into the general public and provoke them into thinking a certain way.

Propaganda...media...but what about technological inventions, like batteries?

How would you feel if you found out today that the Ark of the Covenant was powered on batteries and a brilliant marketing campaign.

Try doing a search on the "Baghdad Batteries". There was a special on this on the television show, "MythBusters".

Mythbusters is ass. Those guys couldn't replicate someone fighting their way out of a damp paper bag.

I think you got it. ....ding ding ding. The arc was most likely a self charging capacitor. The Tens were made of WOOL lined with SILK...not silk. This caused a inner friction that caused a static charge helped by the dry air of the dessert region. The Ephod that was worn but the priest where to protect them. The stones used were not Radioactive. The were insulators for the heart region. The clothing also acted as an insulator for the rest of the body as did the head dress. The Lamp stand that was kept burning during certain times of the year helped to keep the air dry (helps produce the static). The Cherubim would act as a arc point and a collector. The legs being unprotected from the ground kept it from accidentally being discharged, so if a electrical jump happened it would go to ground. when it traveled the sheet had to stay on it to prevent it from striking anyone. When the enemy got it , described above, They removed the curtain so it could be seen as part of their spoils. The Ark jumped gaped all over the place causing havoc. Now electromagnetic radiation does exist but it has to happen over time. It can cause all sorts of medical conditions including cancer and Boils. If the storage area is near any living area this could cause these medical conditions. The Jews never lived near the ark. BUT here is the BIGGER question, How did a civilization 5000 year ago figure all this out and then kept it a secret so that everyone in the world didn't know including their own people and predict that they would need it? They couldn't. The closes that comes to this is the Egyptians using 1volt pods made from grape juice to plate metal and they were probably killing themselves by accident doing it. There is a big difference from power to plate metal and enough to move other objects in a room and cause diseases, Or for that matter spark gap the span of a room if you don't have the right gear on. Today to get that kind of power we need a massive generator specially made for the reason of imitating lighting. This couldn't have happened by accident. It couldn't have happened with the best technology of the day. It couldn't have even happened with the best technology of the 1950's. SO you are left with one possibility......BELIEVE IN GOD. This isn't the only thing like this in the bible...my favorite is Quarantining people for diseases 5000 yrs before with new about viruses and bacteria.

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Originally posted by C.C.Benjamin

Originally posted by GreenT
There are many stories of "amazing miracles" in the Bible. Is it possible that these were just accounts of people experiencing technology that they didn't understand at the time?

Sometimes technology can be used to envoke scare tactics into the general public and provoke them into thinking a certain way.

Propaganda...media...but what about technological inventions, like batteries?

How would you feel if you found out today that the Ark of the Covenant was powered on batteries and a brilliant marketing campaign.

Try doing a search on the "Baghdad Batteries". There was a special on this on the television show, "MythBusters".

Mythbusters is ass. Those guys couldn't replicate someone fighting their way out of a damp paper bag.

I agree with this entirely. they recreated opening a metal door with an electromagnet from a scene of some film, the coil was like 10 wraps...of course its not going to freaking work! I don't believe their lifter vacuum test or cheap speaker test either. instead of follow the design they make a 12 speaker surroud system with jack leads instead of direct connection, totally ignoring the original designs, need I say more, mythbusters busted.

also, this topic reminds me a heck of a lot about reich and the orgone +-+ arrangment of materials, organic and non, gold and acacia, and deadly orgone has nothing to do with radiation its when you have no crystal to ground into if you touch the pipes it can effect your bodys cells IF you are drawing in DOR (negative orgone...) AND CAN KILL YOU. this is why reich was spoken to by the cia. not to mention he was making it rain in a desert but yea.

It is my understanding that the ARK OF THE COVENANT was a relic of a lost technology that was destroyed in the Flood of Noah at the catastrophic ending of the last Ice age era. Imagine a battery producing very high ampage current with out requiring a recharge. In engineering circles such a battery device is called a "NEGATIVE RESISTANCE DIODE". Normally a "positive resistance diode" diminishes the amout of current in the circuit. In a "negative resistance diode" the current is increased. Some who do not understand the workings of such a NRD diode complain that such a diode is impossible because according to their comprehension the diode is violating the basic laws of physics. However that is actually not true since this negative resistance diode is drawing energy from a cosmic radiation source. No big mystery. The Earth as a planet is one huge negative resistance diode. Thus the energy that drives volcanic activity. The Sun as a star is also driven by impedence apon such Cosmic Radiations. In deed in the light of NRD technology our comprehension of stellar physics needs to be re-evaluated. Thus anyone touching or even getting too near to this ARK OF THE COVENANT unprotected would run the risk of getting a massive lethal electric shock. TOMAS BEARDEN is the electrical engineer most out spoken as regard to NRD technology. You can get to his website here. TOM BEARDEN. Watch this video where in Bearden demonstrates the power of his Negative Resistance Diode. The important message is that we do not have to be burning Oil Coal or any other fuel. We certainly do not need to go nuclear. That is the stumbling block in that governments want to go nuclear so that they can continue to build nuclear weapons where by with which to murder everyone. That is the reason why governments continue to suppress the NRD technology even though they use it themselves. Okay for them but not for us attitude. Thus "free energy" is a controversy. Chernobyl in the Ukrainia exploded simply because the Communists who previously supplied electricity free of chargely suddenly decided [gorbachev] to start charging money for the electricity supply. Needless to say everyone turned off their lights and appliances. The feed back in the grid exploded the Chernobyl reactor. Starting a fire that could not be put out and which poured tons of poisonous radioactive isotopes into the environment. My hair fell out because of Chernobyl. The Chernobyl reactor was never designed to be a controlled reaction. It was designed to work at maximum power 100% so as to supply massive amounts of free electricity for the Communist nations of the Soviet Union.

SHIMONO

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