Originally posted by Comberman
I would not be at all surprised if it were discovered that Mossad itself is behind this attack. They have carried quite a few "dirty tricks" in the
past and been responsible for incidents for which others have been blamed. Mossad is a law unto itself; it is not beyond breaking international
law,or ignoring those who plead for human rights if what it conspires will sustain the Israeli State. A State that is built on land stolen from
others in the name of God. But then history has a way of repeating itself. The world is confronted with Mossad today; yesterday it was confronted
with the SS.
So how exactly is it stolen land? First of all, name a country in existence that was not in some way founded by warfare? Why modern Israel is some
special case, but the US, founded on genocide of millions, every country in Latin America (founded on genocide), China (genocide), every country in
Europe (founded on warfare more or less), Japan (founded on wiping out the Ainu people)--why Israel is singled out is really beyond me. I could, you
know, bring up how much of Saudi Arabia was stolen from Roman-era disapora Jews. What you think Medina was all Muslim from day one? No, Mohammed
kind of killed all the Jews. Then I could go into how what comprises modern day Israel has had a continous Jewish presence from after the Roman
disapora through the Ottoman days. And how the Arabs had no problem or desire for a Palestinian state under Ottoman rule. I mean I guess it is
alright to be ruled by ruthless Turks and have them steal your land. But, you know, if a Jew should move into your neighborhood, well, obviously they
have to be killed. And I could, you know, bring up the 900,000 or so Jews living in Islamic countries but forced to flee after the creation of the
modern state of Israel. Where the hell were they supposed to go exactly? Or that the state of Israel was necessary because of European persecution
of Jews. Wars happen, people flee, they resettle. It happens everywhere in the world, all the time, since the dawn of time. Only when it involves
Jews does it become a problem. I could take direct quotes from Arab League meetings to show you that the "Palestinian" problem was a creation of
other Arab states to attack Israel with. Oh and they have a state by the way and its called Jordan. If they don't like it, well, build a time
machine and go fight the British after WWI and carve out your own damn state. When you get beat you can't whine about it. Mexico, a few extremists
aside, isn't asking for Texas or California back (though one might argue they are using the same demographic shift strategy as the Arabs to effect
the same change).
In any event, it is totally absurd for you to claim that Mossad is in any way, shape or form like the SS.
Two totally different beasts. That is akin to calling the CIA like the SS. Spy agencies generally do nasty things that they really ought not do,
but, they are generally not deeply involved in running domestic policy. The KGB=SS, maybe, you could argue that. Mossad doesn't call the shots in
Israel. Hell, Sharon is a dove these days, so I'd hardly say that the cloak and dagger gang has much clout.
Oh hey, while we're on Israel, how about you tell me about that pesky UN Resolution Syria has ignored for 20-odd years? You know about not occupying
Lebannon. Oh, so its cool for Arabs to occupy other people, but not Jews. Oh, and hey, how about those tens of thousands of dead or enslaved blacks
in Sudan? I guess its cool for Arabs to enslave and murder tens of thousands, but, you know, its a big deal if Israel kills a terrorist in Gaza and
maybe kills an "inoccent" Hamas bystander. Oh yeah, and if you check all the historical records you'd know that Gaza has had a continuous Jewish
presence for a hell of a long time. But I digress, hey, why is it cool for Turkey to occupy the Kurds? Hey, why is it cool for Iraq to also occupy
the Kurds? Oh and we might want to add the bit about genocide to the Kurds. See if you want to start dropping this Israel is evil crap you sort of
need to have some grip on the history of the region, some explanantion why Jews are totally different than anyone else in the world that isn't based
on your anti-Semitism, and some explanation for why it is totally fine for Arabs/Muslims to totally disregard any international laws, generally agreed
upon morals, and just do what the hell they want. You know, if you can answer all that, sure, maybe I'll be convinced Israel is the great Satan.
Until then the only thing I'm convinced of is that you're another ignorant Jew hater.