Russian Cosmonaut Reveals UFO, Alien 2012 Crop Circle SECRETS

Who cares if the guy is an astronaut or not.

Many have come forward from the CIA, NASA, Atomic Energy Commission, MJ-12, who have had change of hearts/conscience. But of course they are labelled crazy or as money grubbing or are offed, just like Jim Forrestal wanted to get the word out about the ET coverup - so one minute he is Secretary of Defense - and the next he is in the insane section of Bethesda Naval Hospital. And he was the Secretary of the Navy before that.

Funny how that works you would think they would be absolutely sure they didn't have an insane person in either one of those vital positions.

And it's strange how he "committed suicide" hours before his brother, who knew something wasn't right, was coming to get him and take him home.

Here is another Secretary of Defense's take on ET's (from Canada):



It's hillarious how the UFO debunkers say there is never anyone credible who has seen UFO's, yet when credible people say they have see them they are labelled crazy or unstable. Yet they were considered normal by all before they tried to break the UFO/ET coverup. See how that works?

if you look up into space on a very clear day at night without light pollution, you can sometimes see these white lights moving thru the sky high above.

most people see them and think satellites, but now you have to wonder.

is it possible to see a satellite with the naked eye, when jets a fraction of the distance are barely noticeable and appear as silver specks in the sky.

satellites are much smaller than a commercial airliner, so it would be impossible to spot, unless they are lit up.

then you have to ask yourself, do they equip or is it standard for satellites to have high intensity lights that are so bright that it rival stars in the sky and the only reason they are noticed is because they are moving.

what is the purpose to put navigation lights on a piece of equipment that is tens of miles up.

and to waste valuable power on a non-essential piece of hardware, like high intensity nav. lights.

and if satellites are in orbit, shouldn't they appear motionless to someone looking at them from earth, not blazing across the sky in speeds that must be in the tens of thousands of miles per hour.

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


People talking is just that. More talk.
Everyone likes a story right?

Bring us a live interview with a real alien or documentary film crew tour of an alien mothership.

Show us the $.

Talk and stories are one thing, but, talking about seeing a hamburger or a plate full of food doesn't feed anyone.

reply to post by randomname


I've seen satellites many times in areas of low light pollution. They don't have lights that I know of - they are so high they are just reflecting sunlight from the other side of the globe.

However, it should be easy to tell the difference between ET UFO's and satellites, use the same characterisitics that you would use to discern between human UFO's and ET UFO's. It's mostly about trajectory and speed. If it is straight line constant speed it is probably a satellite. If the speed, trajectory or type of light changes noticeably it is probably a ET UFO. Human UFO's can also change speed and trajectories but do it much more slowly.

A lot of the footage from the original video looks like microscope footage.

At the 8 minute mark for example.

You can see what looks like a pointer and it looks as if there is back lighting.

Hmm. I dunno if its just me, but I found that a bit hard to follow... Towards the end he mentions a lot of different scenarios.

There's a black hole in the milky way, we can't see it because we view it in the past, the aliens are aware of it.The aliens charge up using our storms, there's a lot of energy coming through the solar system, and it can be harnessed in different ways, the Suns exspanding and will swallow Venus and Mercury, there's something headed our way from the constellation of Virgo... And something bigs gonna crash into the Sun, and we will start seeing the effects of all this Dec 2012.

And there were more..

I don't know what to make of him in terms of legitimacy, he does however add fuel to the fire, of the great 2012 and apocolyptic mystery. Not long to wait now guys!! This is the grandaddy of all dates predicted ever! We'll soon find out if we're all stuffed or stoopid fools.

Things that are interesting; The space cloud in the solar system, the dissapearing dust, things smashing into the sun, lotsa Earth changes, lotsa human changes, saturns rings, Buzz's megalith and pyramids on mars, ancient momuments and civilisation, the UFO phenomina, and much, much more...

Its eaither staring us in the face, and we're all in denial, or we're all paranoid lol.

My current pet bug: RT news' little 2 second clips of "Is it too late?", "space race for humanity" "collision", and phrases of the sort along side pictures of Earth getting pounded by a big fat rock.

Reaallly annoying because they haven't discussed it, just these 2 second clips with no commentary, spread out through the day... For the last 8 months or so.

I might email them lol.

reply to post by randomname


Yea I know what you mean, me and my friends were walking back from town last year at 4 am (long story), we finally made it to the first of of fields in our "villiage", and all stopped for a fag break, the sky was clear, and the stars were beautiful.

We all looked up, just pointing out stars, when we all saw, what looked like stars, but darted around the sky, fast and slightly erratic, but definatley with purpose.

We were gobb smacked. It must have been miiiilllleessss away (I though it was a star lightyears away af first) but it just started wizzing round the sky.

I've seen a few since, once ya know what your looking for, it aint to hard.

reply to post by Human_Alien


Thanks for sharing, but all of the footage in that video is old and all of it has been discussed in separate threads on ATS. It's a good compilation of some of the more interesting footage, but nothing new or "leaked". He is basically just giving a general overview of some interesting old footage.

reply to post by JimOberg


I don't think anything here is any crazier than some of the stuff you have said before

All of the footage in the video is real. None of them are anything that has "Leaked" recently. They've been around YouTube for years, but this guy speaking obviously might want to remain anonymous whether or not he is truly a Russian cosmonaut. If he's not a cosmonaut he wouldn't want his identity to be known because he would be a fraud. If he is a cosmonaut he wouldn't want his identity to be known because of obvious reasons. I'm not sure how the Russians deal with whistle blowers, but I'm guessing it's not a position anyone would want to put themselves in. So just because he is anonymous doesn't necessarily mean he is lying.

Originally posted by randomname
if you look up into space on a very clear day at night without light pollution, you can sometimes see these white lights moving thru the sky high above.

most people see them and think satellites, but now you have to wonder.

is it possible to see a satellite with the naked eye, when jets a fraction of the distance are barely noticeable and appear as silver specks in the sky.

satellites are much smaller than a commercial airliner, so it would be impossible to spot, unless they are lit up.

then you have to ask yourself, do they equip or is it standard for satellites to have high intensity lights that are so bright that it rival stars in the sky and the only reason they are noticed is because they are moving.

what is the purpose to put navigation lights on a piece of equipment that is tens of miles up.

and to waste valuable power on a non-essential piece of hardware, like high intensity nav. lights.

and if satellites are in orbit, shouldn't they appear motionless to someone looking at them from earth, not blazing across the sky in speeds that must be in the tens of thousands of miles per hour.

Thanks for violating what I thought was an ironclad rule of teaching, that there ARE no 'stupid questions'.

Originally posted by IndieA
A lot of the footage from the original video looks like microscope footage.

At the 8 minute mark for example.

You can see what looks like a pointer and it looks as if there is back lighting.

edit on 9-7-2012 by IndieA because: clarification

You don't even know WHEN and WHERE and by WHO the video was taken -- the posters refuse to tell you -- so why are you even wasting your time in a game that THEY made the rules for?

Originally posted by isitjustme
reply to post by JimOberg

 

I don't think anything here is any crazier than some of the stuff you have said before

My stuff can be checked.

Isn't that different?

Normally don't post, but thought I would add that the video that PlanetXisHERE posted is the long form of the op's video. It's nice because in this video you see the actual images he is referring to in his presentation... ie crop circles, etc. The op's clip starts somewhere around the 30 min mark of the long one, with Pane Andov giving a brief rundown of his past and what brought him to the point this was made.

Still watching, so didn't take the time to figure how to imbed or link or anything.... kind of slow with computers. Hope this helps!

Originally posted by TheIrishJihad
reply to post by JimOberg

 

Damn Jim, I used to agree with you at least some of the time but after this childish and ignorant response I'm gonna say you are just like all the other debunkers/shills/chronic know it alls on this site.

Hmmmm. People have an open mind? Not on my watch!!!!-Jim Oberg

So where were you when skeptics were being called liars and idiots and tools of the race traitors?

On vacation?

It's gonna need disciplined brain power to think through this puzzle -- and look how well sloppy gullibility has worked so far. Happy with the results of such an approach?

Originally posted by JimOberg

Originally posted by IndieA
A lot of the footage from the original video looks like microscope footage.

At the 8 minute mark for example.

You can see what looks like a pointer and it looks as if there is back lighting.

edit on 9-7-2012 by IndieA because: clarification

You don't even know WHEN and WHERE and by WHO the video was taken -- the posters refuse to tell you -- so why are you even wasting your time in a game that THEY made the rules for?

For one who claims to know so much about these things, you should know exactly where all of this footage came from. Most of it is old NASA footage... but I suspect you already know that. There's nothing mysterious about the origins of any of this footage, it's all been posted and discussed in length. But no... I'm not going to waste my time giving you the exact name of each clip because I simply can't be bothered.

Originally posted by Druscilla

I know a homeless guy in my area that claims to be 35,000 years old and from Atlantis.
He has all sorts of things to say about space wars, mind control, aliens, why regular humans live such short lives, and all sorts of other things.

He says stuff like you should add gold into your diet just like our bodies need Iron, Magnesium, Sodium, and other metals, it needs Gold and that's part of why we live such short lives and aren't telepathic.

He talks more if you give him $. or liquor.

He doesn't bathe and he sometimes doesn't wear pants and you can see his hairy junk when he doesn't wear pants.

He claims to be 35,000years old and from Atlantis though.

Legit?

According to OP HumanAlien, and Unity_99, and others just because he say so, it MUST be true, regardless and in spite of and mostly especially because the fact that nothing said can be verified as true, so, it MUST be true.
LOL

This homeless guy that runs around without pants and smells like pee and poop and liquor and other foul things probably has more credibility than the mysterious unknown self-claimed cosmonaut in the video.

Please don't insinuate and put words in my mouth just to make a point. I never said this guy is 100% talking the truth and knows something about 2012. I found it interesting, that's all. But I will say this: if he is a cosmonaut then...... I WILL believe his inside information regarding government cover-ups however. That's almost a no-brainer anyway. Just take a gander at Mr.Oberg.

As far as your alcoholic friend who speaks about aliens or what-have-you. You know what? It might behoove you to listen to him one day and drop your judgement prior from doing so.

It's almost a FACT that people who know more or experienced things 'unrealistic' to our reality tend to turn to drugs/drink as an escape.
The most 'insane' people are very likely to be geniuses stuck in this boring world. Just look at autistic savants. They're kinda lucky though. Their escape is being oblivious to the world around them. They don't need to drink and drug it up but yet they excel in areas most of us don't.

Open your mind more and get rid of your pre-judgement of people without knowing them. You're doing what Mr Oberg does only you're "surface reading" someone instead of diving deeper.

reply to post by Human_Alien


I could find tons of super interesting NASA footage, bring it into iMovie, voice over with a Russian accent, say things that I even want to hear / believe, upload it here, write up a post saying my uncle Vladimir Boruschenko was a technician working for Roscosmos and snuck out the video. Would I be believed ?

Absolutely..... I would get stars and flags and be defended by the believers.

Am I a believer...... Absolutely, but until someone other than a mysterious person behind the "curtain" comes out and reveals something, I'll hold judgement till then....

the mysterious voice heard in the film clip

Originally posted by antar
OK now... this is precisely what I have been claiming on this forum, granted I am not a Russian Cosmonaut, yet it is the same reason I always ask when I trust a sighting here on the boards... Same questions asked.

He is right, that it is critical at this time people come to an understanding about the world we live in and not the watered down version people have been spoon fed for thousands of years.

Communication is happening, things are ramping up right now and each time a storm happens we are being deluged by off world cloaked interstellar craft filling their energy reserves.

And that's EXACTLY why there are Jim Obergs out there!!!! To try to mislead and guide the herd away from the TRUTH.

It doesn't matter in the bigger picture if this guy in the OP has a 'donation button' on his page or even if he's a real cosmonaut.

The bottom line is we are not alone. Anyone not agreeing or considering that despite not having an alien carcass hanging in the Smithsonian is utterly ridiculous and beyond being closed minded.

Yes, religions were wrong.
Science was wrong and portions of the world governments, know this. Things have to be re-written and that's a huge undertaking. Not to mention, once we are officially told, our outlook will become different. Things that mattered here, won't. The control that is reign on this planet will quickly vanish.

So you're right my friend. The truth is, we're not alone and never have been. And once you substitute 'aliens' into all the unknowns that plague this planet then everything starts to make some mosaic-like sense.

But right now it's like we're being handed pages of this huge book of 'truth'. Only we're getting handed one page at a time and it's all out of sequence to boot!!!
o we're trying to assemble this book so it makes sense. It's a difficult project for us but...... chapters are starting to come together. And the Jim Obergs out there are trying their hardest for this book not to ever get published!! And I personally resent that because it's all of our truth. It's our birthright to know our truth.

Originally posted by JimOberg

Originally posted by Nightchild

Originally posted by JimOberg

But WHO is this "he" and if you don't know, WHY should anyone listen to him?

And if you refuse to even want to know, why isn't pointed teasing and mocking laughter
the only sane, mature response from the rest of us?

WHO is this "HE"?

According to the previous Poster, the guy's name is Pane Andov.

If so, according to his bio,
www.youtube.com...
he ain't no cosmonaut.

Unless I've missed it here:
en.wikipedia.org...
There is no Pane Andov listed as a cosmonaut.