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Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
I am pretty contemptuous of America, yes. It seems to me a country of generally ill-informed people. Its attitude to politics, guns, pharma, and corporate life is exceedingly bizarre.
But what I find most odd are those of you who are such cheerleaders for America, but who apparently agree with me.
Originally posted by SimontheMagus
Well, your Nazi mind-control bosses own all the media, publishing houses, Hollywood, and the Music Industry, and if you had your way, they would own the Internet too. So what do you expect?
You spend your life shooting down the only voices of truth to be found. So the contempt should be upon yourself, you are most deserving of it.edit on 10-7-2012 by SimontheMagus because: (no reason given)
I am pretty contemptuous of America, yes. It seems to me a country of generally ill-informed people. Its attitude to politics, guns, pharma, and corporate life is exceedingly bizarre. But what I find most odd are those of you who are such cheerleaders for America, but who apparently agree with me.
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
reply to post by dillweed
Oh, and as for charging me - much lulz. You're talking about a country that couldn't send OJ to prison.
Why is it that freedom of speech and rights never apply to your enemies? You're a strange lot, indeed.
Thank-you for proving my point. The Iranian propaganda machine promotes conspiracy theories in order to cause dissension within the US population and to indoctrinate their own population. Al Qaeda resents this because they want the credit. "Truthers", some intentionally promote the "inside job" canard in order to cause dissension, as well. Perhaps some of this is unintended, but much of it is intentional... Guess what? That places "truthers" directly in the camp of both Iran and Al Qaeda. This is precisely why I say that 9/11 has become a "Treasonous indoor sport" for the greatest majority of "truthers".
Originally posted by maxella1
reply to post by TrickoftheShade
I am pretty contemptuous of America, yes. It seems to me a country of generally ill-informed people. Its attitude to politics, guns, pharma, and corporate life is exceedingly bizarre. But what I find most odd are those of you who are such cheerleaders for America, but who apparently agree with me.
America is the greatest country in the world. It just got taken over by people like you! And that's why you fight here every day to keep them in power.
Originally posted by maxella1
Now that's funny... You acknowledge that it's hard to convict people who can pay for good lawyers, but at the same time you arguing that if anybody in government were involved in 9/11 they would have been in prison already.
much lulz indeed.
So you admit that you are the enemy to American people? Not a good thing to be Trick......
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
Nope. I think you think I'm your enemy - or rather Simon does. But I don't think either of you represents "the American people". Not in any way.
You honestly believe that? Perhaps you should check out what Germans were saying in the 1930s.
And when did this takeover happen? Which America do you want to go back to? The one with segregation? Or maybe further to out and out slavery? Or perhaps the one that invaded Vietnam? When exactly was this golden age?
You see, if you want to argue with people, you have to actually argue with what they say. Not just make it up.
Nope. I think you think I'm your enemy - or rather Simon does. But I don't think either of you represents "the American people". Not in any way.
Originally posted by SimontheMagus
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
Nope. I think you think I'm your enemy - or rather Simon does. But I don't think either of you represents "the American people". Not in any way.
That's the first thing I've seen you get right since I've been here. I don't spend the vast majority of my time on the couch watching American Idol, eating McDonalds, drinking beer, or shopping at Walmart.
Originally posted by maxella1
Perhaps you should tell me what Germans were saying. And yes I do honestly believe that.
How about the time when Americans had to save your asses from the natzis...
Am i really making it up? You don't think that if anybody in the government was involved in 9/11 they would be in prison by now?
Give me an example of who you think represents American people..
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
Is America the greatest country in the world or not? And when did it start going wrong?
Originally posted by SimontheMagus
Americans have been brainwashed and programmed to be a useless bunch of slobs by the banksters and corporate racketeers who then bought all the media, public education, Hollywood, publishing houses, and even the music industry.
Through the distorted use of ancient knowledge they are masters at mass mind control and have created the paradigm that the country exists in today. America was founded upon principles very much contrary to what we see today. In principle and for the opportunity of freedom for the human spirit it WAS the greatest country in the world witnessed by the fact that everyone and their mother either immigrated here or was trying to, in order to escape the tyranny and misery on the rest of the planet.
Unfortunately the Black Nobility of Europe got their hands on the American Economy, gaining control of its currency and establishing a central bank, which is always the end of anything good.
When was the start of the demise?
December 23, 1913.edit on 12-7-2012 by SimontheMagus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
Why have the evil ones bothered to
- give votes to women
- end segregation and create the human rights movement
- create cures or treatments for a variety of diseases
- increase standard of living and income hugely for everybody
- allow dissent
- create an economy which periodically loses huge sums of cash?
Either they're not actually all that evil, or they're not very good at it.
Given the total lack of reliable evidence for their existence and the persuasive evidence for chaos and mass greed being the main drivers behind recent disasters, I'd say that your evil ones are a comforting bogeyman on which you can blame the world's ills.
I'm also not sure most people would rather live in 1913.
How ironic that you're unable to spell Nazi. You're not doing a very good job of dispelling the notion of Americans being ill-informed.
You're also doing a terrible job of answering the question. Which America do you want to return to? You said that it had been ruined, so when was it good? Give me a year.
What are you talking about? You said that I had "argued if anybody in government were involved in 9/11 they would have been in prison already." This is complete nonsense.
How could one person possibly represent a nation of 300-odd million? How could one person possibly represent a nation of 300-odd million?
Originally posted by SimontheMagus
Why don't you explain to us how the Federal Reserve banksters were responsible for these things. Why don't you explain how they could not have happened without them. Why don't you tell us the advantage of a ponzi scheme where private bankers create money as debt instead of gold-backed currency printed by the US Government?
The Fed orchestrates the crashes to consolidate wealth towards the top of their pyramid. It has been going on since the beginning, and the current state of affairs proves that point.
Please, why am I not surprised you are also a private bankster Fed Reserve defender.
The Creature from Jekyll's Island
www.bigeye.com...
In 1913 Colonel Edward Mandell House Describes To President Woodrow Wilson How The Federal Reserve Act Will Be Used To Enslave The American People
9-11themotherofallblackoperations.blogspot.com...
Jon Stewart Exposes the Fraud of the Federal Reserve
www.lewrockwell.com...
CONGRESSMAN LOUIS T. McFADDEN (1876-1936) - ONE OF THE FIRST MURDER VICTIMS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE ELITE
www.libertynewsonline.com...
compleatpatriot.blogspot.com...
THE HISTORY OF MONEY. World Bank, IMF and WTO
www.xat.org...
edit on 12-7-2012 by SimontheMagus because: (no reason given)