Hidden video camera inside Zionist's prison‬‏

This is an exposé on how Zionists treat people who show solidarity with Palestinians.

In the UK, it was reported that the Tory government gave the Zionists the go ahead to mistreat British nationals wishing to visit Palestine.

reply to post by Ilovecatbinlady


They were in a Prison not a 5 star hotel. What did you expect?
I dont see anything wrong with the way they were treated.

As far as im concerned i think they should thank their lucky stars it was an Israeli prison.
In most Muslim or Arab prisons in the Middle East they would be beaten, raped and probably killed.
After all, in most of the Muslim countries in the Middle East women are still stoned to death for adultery. In the Palestinian territories they still practice family honor, killing women for anything from adultery, divorce and sex before marriage.

Israel is surrounded by primitive Muslim countries with the lowest rate of civil liberties in the world.
Stop Trolling with your lame propaganda driven posts.

I hope these women learned their lesson: stay away from Israel & let these "desert tribes"
Kill themselves off! They do nothing for the rest of the world & bring other nations into their B.S
& they support Israel cause "the holy scriptures say any nation that goes against Israel shall parish"

Believe that Israel is holy cause they say so.

Khazar's biggest lie that the rest of the world gobble up as the truth.

So sad.

Originally posted by thepupils
I hope these women learned their lesson: stay away from Israel & let these "desert tribes"
Kill themselves off! They do nothing for the rest of the world & bring other nations into their B.S
& they support Israel cause "the holy scriptures say any nation that goes against Israel shall parish"

Believe that Israel is holy cause they say so.

Khazar's biggest lie that the rest of the world gobble up as the truth.

So sad.

Why should anyone stay away when one side is committing war crimes against an unarmed and victimised indigenous population.

Who are these "desert tribes" you mention? The zionists largely arrived from central and eastern Europe and the Palestinians have always been a settled urban and agrarian society.

You have some fantasy that Palestine is stuck in Old Testament times because you are a fundamentalist extremist.

The Palestinian cause is a post colonial nationalist struggle against zionist occupation. The Palestinians are both Christians and Muslims who are fighting for their right of self determination.

it is irrelevant whether you belief is Israel is a holy cause because that is your exclusive belief system. Everyone has superstitions.

Modern Israel are Khazar's (notice I said Khazar's biggest lie)

What have Israel or Palestine done for America or the rest of the world?

It is messed up that Israel comes in and claims land is there's based on old testament scriptures
Written by Jews claiming there gods chosen people & if your not with Israel you will parish.

Desert tribes? Come on, what do you think they are. You think Israel or Palestine would give a s@&T
About an internal conflict of any other nation? No they wouldn't, why should we (USA)

Let the desert tribes handle their business, & we handle ours (USA has more than enough problems to deal with, let alone A Zionist/Muslim war that's been going on for thousands of years.

It's none of our business. Same with the women. Stay out of the desert and they wouldn't be in prison.
Pretty simple to me.

reply to post by CountDrac

They were in a Prison not a 5 star hotel. What did you expect?
I dont see anything wrong with the way they were treated.

You are in favour of putting innocent people in prison. I expect that Israel does not hold innocent people in their prisons.

As far as im concerned i think they should thank their lucky stars it was an Israeli prison.
In most Muslim or Arab prisons in the Middle East they would be beaten, raped and probably killed.
After all, in most of the Muslim countries in the Middle East women are still stoned to death for adultery. In the Palestinian territories they still practice family honor, killing women for anything from adultery, divorce and sex before marriage.

This news item is about Israel so why do you drag in unrelated issues to justify criminal Israeli acts? BTW, the last I checked being beaten, raped and killed in prisons is exactly what the Americans brought to the Middle East. Remember Abu Ghraib? I also know that US franchised black sites in Syria of all places, Egypt, Morocco, Libya, etc

There are more than 500 hundred million people in the Middle East and stoning rare. Both Afghanistan and Pakistan are war zones and what happens there does not count.

Israel is surrounded by primitive Muslim countries with the lowest rate of civil liberties in the world.
Stop Trolling with your lame propaganda driven posts.

You have just called cultured people with enormous heritage "primitive Muslim". By my reckoning that comment alone makes you a religious bigot. The irony is that as a Christian, you are in fact practising a Middle Eastern religion.

And how does posting news of human rights violations trolling?

reply to post by Ilovecatbinlady


They were stripped of everything bu their camera.. they were held for five days and the camera worked for five days. Stuff just does not add up...

for the sake of conversation.

It is their nation. They can deport and detain who they want. whether it be proper or not.

The women were in prison and the treatment did not seem harsh. The reason why they were there is up for debate but int he in end a country has a right to do whatever it wants. And quite frankly i will repeat how they were treated was unfair but not inhumane.

These women should have known better and they did considering they purposely had a camera... The world is huge why do they have to go there... why??

Here in the USA if you manage to get a visa it is not a sure thing they will let you in when you arrive at customs. they can turn you or detain you for questioning. those are the rules. they really do not need a reason to stop you they just can.

get over it.

reply to post by Ilovecatbinlady

Why should anyone stay away when one side is committing war crimes against an unarmed and victimised indigenous population.

First of all, its not an ‘indigenous population’. The first refugees in Palestine were actually Jews and Jews have lived on the land known as Palestine for 4,000 years (the mustarabim).

Secondly, what do you expect will happen when you prance into a damn war zone??

reply to post by Ilovecatbinlady


OMG !!! it's like watching Guantanamo all over again...errr...I mean 'Midnight express'...err
Evil Zionists I tell you.

reply to post by votan

It is their nation. They can deport and detain who they want. whether it be proper or not.

They were placed in prison simply because they wanted to go to Palestine. Israel has no right to prevent them nor does it have a right to imprison innocent travelers.

reply to post by seabag

First of all, its not an ‘indigenous population’. The first refugees in Palestine were actually Jews and Jews have lived on the land known as Palestine for 4,000 years (the mustarabim).

I think you referencing your religious beliefs. Nevertheless, as Schlomo Sands says, the ancient Hebrews have no relation to the descendent of Jewish converts now occupying Palestine.

Secondly, what do you expect will happen when you prance into a damn war zone??

Name the war zone and under what right does Israel have to imprison innocent travelers?

Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
reply to post by votan

 

It is their nation. They can deport and detain who they want. whether it be proper or not.

They were placed in prison simply because they wanted to go to Palestine. Israel has no right to prevent them nor does it have a right to imprison innocent travelers.

Actually, yes. A sovereign nation has every right to determine who crosses their borders and when.

Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by Ilovecatbinlady

 

They were in a Prison not a 5 star hotel. What did you expect?
I dont see anything wrong with the way they were treated.

As far as im concerned i think they should thank their lucky stars it was an Israeli prison.
In most Muslim or Arab prisons in the Middle East they would be beaten, raped and probably killed.
After all, in most of the Muslim countries in the Middle East women are still stoned to death for adultery. In the Palestinian territories they still practice family honor, killing women for anything from adultery, divorce and sex before marriage.

Israel is surrounded by primitive Muslim countries with the lowest rate of civil liberties in the world.
Stop Trolling with your lame propaganda driven posts.

edit on 14-7-2012 by CountDrac because: (no reason given)

guess its not that hard to figure out what your agenda and those who starred you is



the imprisonment was not justified to me..nor the way they were treated...some governments really need to start asking questions..and investigate the israeli mission in palestine

reply to post by NavyDoc

Actually, yes. A sovereign nation has every right to determine who crosses their borders and when

It has no right to blockade the Palestinian territories and is required to make arrangement to safely transit travelers and not imprison them.

Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
reply to post by NavyDoc

 

Actually, yes. A sovereign nation has every right to determine who crosses their borders and when

It has no right to blockade the Palestinian territories and is required to make arrangement to safely transit travelers and not imprison them.

The people detained were detained in Tel Aviv, so yes the Israelis have every right to evaluate the people going through their country. With the violence and terrorism coming from Palistine, security is important to them.

reply to post by Ilovecatbinlady


They don't want anyone to find out the truth of what they do to the palestinians. They hate the fact that people document their crimes and tell the world. They hate the fact any one is trying to help the prisoners of their concentration camps. They love violence and hurting people.

CJ

The thing is, this is not some innocent visit - there are lots of people visiting Palestinian autonomy as tourists or whatever.
Proof?

According to statistics released by the Civil Administration in the West Bank, about 1,123,000 tourists have visited Bethlehem and Jericho during the first nine months of 2008, record numbers since the period before the intifada. This represents a 96.5% increase in the numbers of tourists visiting Bethlehem and 42.3% increase in the numbers visiting Jericho (compared to the same period in 2007).

www.haaretz.com...
On 8 of July it was different.
These people where not innocent visitors - on 8 of July of 2011 there was this:

The Marhaba to Palestine campaign is aimed at protesting the ongoing travel restrictions imposed by Israel on those entering and exiting the occupied territories, and the ongoing denial of Palestinian human rights
Usually, an international activist who wishes to visit Palestine has to conceal her/his political intentions when landing at Ben Gurion Airport, and disguise herself/himself as a tourist with a detailed tour plan.
On July 8th planeloads of international activists, 550 men and women, will land at Ben Gurion and declare openly "we are here to visit Palestine

www.facebook.com... (press "more" for English part)

Israel stated that it will not allow political protest in the airport and that all participating will be deported.
p.s:
Even those who organised it agree that people can visit Palestine autonomy as tourists. Letting in people who openly declare that they will protest against Israeli actions (justified or not is irrelevant) on Israeli territory and in Palestinian territory is stupid.

reply to post by NavyDoc


Unfortunately you seem not to understand international law, the Nuremberg Principles and the Geneva Conventions. It is illegal to blockade a civilian population.

Israel is a country that occupies another and is held to the laws that governs belligerents. We are not talking about an ordinary nation with defined borders. Israel has no defined borders in the areas concerned.

Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
reply to post by NavyDoc

 

Unfortunately you seem not to understand international law, the Nuremberg Principles and the Geneva Conventions. It is illegal to blockade a civilian population.

Israel is a country that occupies another and is held to the laws that governs belligerents. We are not talking about an ordinary nation with defined borders. Israel has no defined borders in the areas concerned.

edit on 14-7-2012 by Ilovecatbinlady because: (no reason given)

I understand the conventions quite well. I practiced them and studied them as a military officer. They were not stockading a civilian population, they were returning beligerants to their home of origin. Just look at the post above me. These people were not turists not peaceful protestors but adjitators.

Rocket attacks on Israel

According to Human Rights Watch, Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups have launched thousands of rockets into Israel since 2001, killing 15 civilians, wounding many more, and posing an ongoing threat to the nearly 800,000 Israeli civilians who live and work in the weapons' range. Hamas officials have said that the rockets were aimed only at military targets, saying that civilian casualties were the "accidental result" of the weapons' poor quality. According to Human Rights Watch statements by Hamas leaders suggest that the purpose of the rocket attacks was indeed to strike civilians and civilian objects. From January 2009, Hamas largely stopped launching rocket attacks on Israel and has on at least two occasions arrested members of other groups who have launched rockets, "showing that it has the ability to impose the law when it wants".[314] In February 2010, Hamas issued a statement regretting any harm that may have befallen Israeli civilians as a result of Palestinian rocket attacks during the Gaza war. It maintained that its rocket attacks had been aimed at Israeli military targets but lacked accuracy and hence sometimes hit civilian areas. Israel responded that Hamas had boasted repeatedly of targeting and murdering civilians in the media.[315]

Israel has intercepted ships trying to smuggle arms into Palistine and arms are also smuggled into Palistine though tunnels.

Israel has a right to protect itself and turn away the violent agitators and supporters of terrorism.

reply to post by heineken


Oh boy, don't play that agenda card, because that accusation can go both ways.