Korea dares U.S.....

Originally posted by Illmatic67

Do you get off hearing about millions of people dying?

Illmatic, I was missing you.

Bur don't worry, I don't want to see nukes exploding everywhere.I'm not mad.

Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi
Just like Hitler. As a German, i have promised to fight against fascism.

It's good to read that. But don't forget that NK leaders are all a bunch of hitler.And may be they are worst than Hitler.

Fighting fascism is a good thing.Fighting ALL the fascism is a better thing.

Originally posted by Mokuhadzushi
In fact, even the south koreans want the US to go home , but they wont quit their petty quarrel with the subversive north koreans who just enjoy laughing at america.

I have never come across that 'fact' Mokudzushi. The S. Koreans want us gone sooo much that they are sending hundreds of troops to Iraq to show support towards the US-led war on Iraq. They have yet to ask the US to leave. You are wrong once again.

ps,

Did you catch this part:

"The country said it would "prove" it has the weapons soon, one source said."

Perhaps a nuclear test soon?

"The only countries who can say "bugger off" to the childish and self-important Bush clique are nuclear nations."

Nope, the only countries who can tell us to bugger off are those who have MANY MANY nukes...not just a trivial amount... If NK even had a weapon with range to reach us, it'd be blown to dust before it got near us... It isn't a boast...just fact. They'd have to be capable of launching a large scale first strike for them to be a "nuclear threat", and they simply aren't capable of such. We could level NK in a heartbeat with strictly conventional bombs....mushroom clouds would not be needed. The only threat in this is involving China...and so far, China seems content to let Kim hang himself...

Moku, you showed again you understand very very little

Your battlecry is pitiful

The ABM treaty was with a government that no longer exists. There is no longer a treaty member with which to keep the bargain.

Treaties, my friend, don't engage "governements" but "nations". You once wrote you studied international law during several years, please medidate on these apparently lost years, you might be able to recall the difference.

The ABM isn't offensive, and if we were to bust N.Korea up, if that was our design, we could have done that first and thereby making the ABM less necessary.

I am well aware ABM's have a defensive function, but your studies in the field of "international law" might also have ventured you upon the thought that more ABM's simply imply more N-Bombs on the enemies' side, in order to keep it's deterrence potential. Retiring from ABM treaty effectively opens an arms race, and doesnt add any security. Then why the arms race ?

And you see no wrong-doing by North Korea. Again, you blame us for our response to terrorist states and say that our "misbehavior" is the reason terrorist states seek nuclear weaponry. The desire to destroy the largest nation of stability is why they seek NBC weapons. We don't look to invade North Korea, if we wanted to, we could have done it a long time ago.

What is your definition of a terrorist state ? In particular, does Israel terrorize palestinians by bulldozing palestinian fugitive camps, forcing them to dance in a circle like chicken while singing children's songs like "Hummus, Tabuli, Im a Palestinian" ? Isnt that the very definition of thorough terrorization of an entire people ? And doesnt the USA terrorize 40% of its population by forcing them to hard labor for a #ty living under the poverty minimum while 5% live in contemplation and luxury, enjoying the laborious races' surplus ? And: Who is terrorized by North Korea ? The West Coast ? I say the East Coast gives a #-damn about the West Coast, and it's the one terrorizing the West Coast. All the North Koreans are asking for in return for the verifiable destruction of it's nukes, is a non-agression treaty with the USA. Washington is willing to trade the West Coast's security in order to avoid a non-agression treaty with North Korea

Or how about this incredibly unfactual and misleading statement made by you: "For it doesnt matter if you comply with UN resolutions, you will get bombed." You are quite the liar. No other way of putting it. Go whine to Simon or whoever, you, boy, are a liar. This isn't a matter of being ill-informed by revised history, you were alive and old enough to be conscious to gleen the facts.

The american war in Iraq clearly sends the signal to Ryad, Tehran, Py�ngyang, and any other nations that may one day be on Bush's list : Nukes->US scared , No Nukes->US bombs.

And it is a well known factfact that the US attacked Iraq while inspectors were veryfying Iraq's compliance to the WMD bans. Remember, it happened just a month ago So it didnt matter that Iraq complied with the UN Resolution. The US still attacked it. And i'm not a liar. Your insults show you have no arguments, nothing more

simply put, both sides are wrong. NK is wrong for even poking the regime we have in Washington. Washington is wrong for starting all this race for the bomb madness.

We can't forget why all of this started. "Axis of Evil" finger pointing and the refusal to address world problems with anything other than bombs and troops. and here we go again Powell calling for talks while Rummy is calling for regime change. I don't even have the stomach for this one.

Hopefully we pay them (like we always do) and they shut up and go back in their hole.

I don't have the stomach for it either Saph. NK isn't Iraq and I'd hate to live in Seoul. I disagree otherwise: Why should we pay the dear leader? We already tried that. We gave them aid so they wouldn't build nukes. Trust them again? No way. Give them money for what? Pay them so they could grow stronger? And where is the UN in all of this. Blix is available these days. Their presence is needed NOW. In the meantime get our service men off that peninsula and give Japan a few nuke for deterance. I remember reading somewhere, maybe it was here actually, someone wrote that 'China could shut Nk in a day' - well, they surely could and I think it's time for them to announce last call.

if North korea attacks first it will play into the US's hand more countries will favor the US if N. korea attacks first but if the US attacks first it will just turn mor countries away from supporting the USA, but a second korean war sounds probable cuz look
ww1 and ww2
2 gulf wars
2 vietnam wars(indochina war with french then the US came)
and 1 korean war already

I don't see why everyone hasn't started ignoring this Mokuhadzushi guy. He's clearly mad at the U.S. because we aren't all nazis. We actually support the zionists instead of gassing them by the millions.

Originally posted by Gazrok
If NK even had a weapon with range to reach us, it'd be blown to dust before it got near us... It isn't a boast...just fact.

It's just a fact man it's just a fact. What if they send 300 all at once and are using most as decoys for the real deal?

Do you guys think that N Korea has a ICBM or a missle capaple of going any farther than alaska maybe seattle..how far do you think they could strike if it came down to it?

"Do you get off hearing about millions of people dying?"

Erm.... dont be so immature, he was merely predicting thee outcome of this crisis.

like everywar, this could lead to a world war... but i dont think the 3rd world war will be the massive destruction of countries like everyone is expecting. i dont think itll be full out nuke attacks

Originally posted by Dangerous_Brian
I don't see why everyone hasn't started ignoring this Mokuhadzushi guy. He's clearly mad at the U.S. because we aren't all nazis. We actually support the zionists instead of gassing them by the millions.

...because the last time I was goated into responding with my opinion, I got dirty little U2Us telling me I shouldn't stifle him so I don't reguard him as legit. His points are too off the mark to argue. He's not interested in discussing anything ..just spreading propaganda, in my opinion(before I get anymore U2Us). Just for the record, he can say whatever he wants but I'm not getting pulled into his tangled mesh of semantics and unreliable resouces. His posts have one purpose and one purpose only, in my opinion; to foster hate against liberty and gain support for questionable actions. He seems to have limited access to unbiased information which makes his view of the world very narrowed, IN MY OPINION. Thats why he's ignored by some.

"It's just a fact man it's just a fact. What if they send 300 all at once and are using most as decoys for the real deal?"

Hmm....somehow, I'm still not worried....

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It's just a fact man it's just a fact. What if they send 300 all at once and are using most as decoys for the real deal?

America has taken precautions to prevent just that thing from happening. Do you think they would leave themselves open for such a public attack? I say public because an attack of that size would be public information, there's just no way to keep it under wraps.

They have jets, with lazers mounted on the front, that can disarm a missile in the air.(and how many jets do they have )

It's people flying planes into buildings that worries me.

Why does it seem like it's only the U.S. that is worried about North Korea having nuclear weapons? It seems like no one but the U.S. is doing something about it. N. Korea is making all kinds of threats about using nukes, and it seems like no one cares, only the U.S.

but most aren't upset because NK is saying they will use them on US, hehe....not them.

S Korea, and Japan, notably, have stated their feelings on it...but yeah, most of the world has kind of yawned at it...because they know that poppa US will take care of it for them, and they won't have to spend a dime....

Mokuhadzushi you are a fool to believe the US is becoming fascist it is simply dealing with the problems that are clear and evident.

At the same time it is Germans like you who made possible the defeat of the Third Reich and in that sense I have little argument.

You and I may argue over every detail and moment of what transpires in our lives at this site. To be certain my opinion is that the German leadership. Failed in respect to acknowledge, that what was occurring in Iraq under the regime of Saddam Hussein. Was in fact criminal behavior and a violation of the UN protocol.

While I am certain you have reservations in response to this statement be certain of one thing. That the Arab press failed to report what was going on in Iraq, with respect to atrocities. Prior to the fall of Saddam Hussein, is the reuslt of a cover up. One which the UN supported privately and publicly.





[Edited on 27-4-2003 by Toltec]