Syria crisis: Deadly cross-border shelling hits Lebanon

Syria crisis: Deadly cross-border shelling hits Lebanon

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At least three people have been killed and nine injured in northern Lebanon in shelling from across the Syrian border, local officials and residents say.

The attacks took place in the Wadi Khaled region, where both Syrian armed rebels and civilians have taken refuge from the violence at home.

There have recently been clashes between armed men on the Lebanese side and the Syrian military.

There are fears the Syrian conflict will spread to neighbouring countries

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Oh dear...

Is Syria trying to chase down every last person that crosses a boarder now?
Is it hell bent on ensuring nobody leaves and does not care who gets in the way?

Is this the last straw before all out war?

Syrian Mortars Hit Lebanon, UN Considers Exit

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At a meeting in Paris during the first Summit of the Union for the Mediterranean, the new President of Lebanon, Michel Sleiman, and Syria's President, Bashar al-Assad, agreed to establish diplomatic relations and to open a new page in the relations between the two countries. On August 13, 2008, the diplomatic relations were established between the two countries.[30][44] In December 2008, the Syrian Embassy was opened in Beirut for the first time since both countries gained their independence during the 1940s. In March 2009, Lebanon opened its embassy in Damascus. On 19 December 2009, Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Al-Hariri visited Syria, and stayed in Damascus for 3 days of meetings with President Bashar Al-Assad.

During fighting in Syria against the al-Assad government, clashes spilled into Tripoli, Lebanon in February 2012.[45] Pro-Syrian forces fought against opposition to the al-Assad presidency in the Bab al-Tabbaneh, Jabal Mohsen clashes, leading to the deaths of three people and more injuries. Tripoli has a majority Sunni Muslim population but also secular pro-Assad Alawites. One Sunni cleric alleged that the Syrian president sent forces into Tripoli to introduce unrest within the region. March 2012 discussions on the national level include concerns that toppling the al-Assad regime would result in regional instability for Lebanon and Iraq.[46] There are already an estimated 20,000 Syrian refugees in Lebanon while Syria demands Lebanese search for Free Syria Army members hiding along the border.[47] The influx of Syrian refugees has increased local tensions between sects in Lebanon. In November 2011, the Syrian army had installed landmines along the border to prevent people from fleeing into Lebanon. Gulf states have offered Syrian rebels $100 million to pay salaries and the United States is providing communications equipment. The rebellions and Syrian government response have killed thousands of Syrians.

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So the UN possibly prepares to leave, and tension may be tight between syria and lebanon according to their history.. none the less, the killing of another countries innocent by accident or on purpose is not to be taken lightly.

After the jet that got shot down the other week, is Syrias time up?
Has it stretched its muscle just a bit too far?
Has the rest of the world had enough of this puppet?

One thing seems to be standing out in the BBC report.. Has this suggested cross fire been a deliberate ploy by those opposed to assads rule? Were they deliberately over the border in order to bring in other countries?

It's not clear, yet people are dying..

www.bbc.co.uk
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Sounds like the FSA are trying to cause some cross border conflict to speed up the war. Tell me what Assad and his forces would have to gain from shelling Lebanon? I know that shelling Lebanon would benefit the FSA if they managed to pin the blame on Assad.

These foreign backed terrorist rebels are too predictable.

Freedom fighters my ass. They are nothing but a bunch of terrorist mercenaries.

From what ive heard, Lebanese support for the Assad regime runs at about 50/50
With this kind of numbers, anything could happen......I doubt, however, that the Syrian Free.Arrny, is very welcome officially...by either faction......in fact the FSA may be the straw that the isrealis are looking for to invade Lebanon again....Should fighting spread to this neighbour
The "Brotherhood has its Lebanese supportes too
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BEIRUT, July 7 (Xinhua) -- After three women were killed and nine others injured Saturday by shelling from Syria on Lebanon's northern border area of Wadi Khaled, the Lebanese army said its units are on alert in the area.

"Army units in the area are on high alert and the required field measures were taken to address any violation of the Syrian- Lebanese borders," the Lebanese army said in a statement.

Local National News Agency reported earlier that RPG shells launched from the Syrian side hit Wadi Khaled, killing three people and wounding nine others, including children.

Some houses of local residents were also struck.

Lebanese army on high alert on border with Syria

Originally posted by SUICIDEHK45

BEIRUT, July 7 (Xinhua) -- After three women were killed and nine others injured Saturday by shelling from Syria on Lebanon's northern border area of Wadi Khaled, the Lebanese army said its units are on alert in the area.

"Army units in the area are on high alert and the required field measures were taken to address any violation of the Syrian- Lebanese borders," the Lebanese army said in a statement.

Local National News Agency reported earlier that RPG shells launched from the Syrian side hit Wadi Khaled, killing three people and wounding nine others, including children.

Some houses of local residents were also struck.

Lebanese army on high alert on border with Syria

RPGs? Isn't that the favored weapons of rebels? If Assad was going to pound Lebannon then I doubt he would use rocket propelled grenades when he has a fleet of Attack Helicopters and Fighter Jets, Supersonic cruise missiles and a iron fist of APCs/Tanks.

I reckon it was the FSA trying to bring Lebannon into conflict with Syria so that the West can say it is time to intervene and start a bombing campaign of Syrian defenses.

Originally posted by Extralien


Oh dear...

Is Syria trying to chase down every last person that crosses a boarder now?
Is it hell bent on ensuring nobody leaves and does not care who gets in the way?

Is this the last straw before all out war?

Syrian Mortars Hit Lebanon, UN Considers Exit

news.sky.com...

At a meeting in Paris during the first Summit of the Union for the Mediterranean, the new President of Lebanon, Michel Sleiman, and Syria's President, Bashar al-Assad, agreed to establish diplomatic relations and to open a new page in the relations between the two countries. On August 13, 2008, the diplomatic relations were established between the two countries.[30][44] In December 2008, the Syrian Embassy was opened in Beirut for the first time since both countries gained their independence during the 1940s. In March 2009, Lebanon opened its embassy in Damascus. On 19 December 2009, Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Al-Hariri visited Syria, and stayed in Damascus for 3 days of meetings with President Bashar Al-Assad.

During fighting in Syria against the al-Assad government, clashes spilled into Tripoli, Lebanon in February 2012.[45] Pro-Syrian forces fought against opposition to the al-Assad presidency in the Bab al-Tabbaneh, Jabal Mohsen clashes, leading to the deaths of three people and more injuries. Tripoli has a majority Sunni Muslim population but also secular pro-Assad Alawites. One Sunni cleric alleged that the Syrian president sent forces into Tripoli to introduce unrest within the region. March 2012 discussions on the national level include concerns that toppling the al-Assad regime would result in regional instability for Lebanon and Iraq.[46] There are already an estimated 20,000 Syrian refugees in Lebanon while Syria demands Lebanese search for Free Syria Army members hiding along the border.[47] The influx of Syrian refugees has increased local tensions between sects in Lebanon. In November 2011, the Syrian army had installed landmines along the border to prevent people from fleeing into Lebanon. Gulf states have offered Syrian rebels $100 million to pay salaries and the United States is providing communications equipment. The rebellions and Syrian government response have killed thousands of Syrians.

en.wikipedia.org...

So the UN possibly prepares to leave, and tension may be tight between syria and lebanon according to their history.. none the less, the killing of another countries innocent by accident or on purpose is not to be taken lightly.

After the jet that got shot down the other week, is Syrias time up?
Has it stretched its muscle just a bit too far?
Has the rest of the world had enough of this puppet?

One thing seems to be standing out in the BBC report.. Has this suggested cross fire been a deliberate ploy by those opposed to assads rule? Were they deliberately over the border in order to bring in other countries?

It's not clear, yet people are dying..

www.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

Everything is Syria's fault, I think we should just send every army we have at them, what do you think mate?

If it kicks off in lebanon and israel get dragged in(or probably dive head-first in) then the power-keg will go KAH-BLAMO!!!!
Damascus is a couple of dozen clicks from the lebanise and israeli boarders, all it would take is "stray" shell to hit Damascus. Border skirmishes with Turkey is 1 thing but this is a whole new level of volatile.

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Every day I turn on the news, I'm just waiting for the day when the news reads "US Strikes hit strategic Syrian targets", this conflict seems to be innevitable. Just the other day we had Hilary Clinton calling out both Russia and China telling them to stand on the "sideline" and basically blasted them both to the world media while she was in France at a conference.... Sooner than later this pot is going to boil over, on one side I do believe that the Syrian Govt. is bad and should probably be taken down, but on the other side I dont want my country to continue being the worlds police... This ticking time bomb will soon go off, the question then to ask is, who all will be participating in this conflict???

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I thought Fatah controlled Northern Lebanon.???

Originally posted by jhn7537


Every day I turn on the news, I'm just waiting for the day when the news reads "US Strikes hit strategic Syrian targets",

Indeed, whilst attempting not to conceive 'Doom', it seems inevitable,

As stated prior, it's a fraction of time before 'Border Accidents' occur, Purposeful Accidents being key word

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed

Freedom fighters my ass. They are nothing but a bunch of terrorist mercenaries.

Isn't the technical term ... "insurgents"?

Originally posted by Trajan

I reckon it was the FSA trying to bring Lebannon into conflict with Syria so that the West can say it is time to intervene and start a bombing campaign of Syrian defenses.

Or, it *could* have been a rogue soldier attacking fleeing rebels ... and thinking that if he used an RPG, it would look like rebels did it. Or it, might be an American special-op stationed there, that uses an RPG to shoot at lebanese rebel-supporters in hope of a larger insurgency.

Sooner or later, everyone is going to say ... "Killing Assat will solve the problem" ...

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Yeah, I am sure Syria now wants to go to war with Lebanon. Of course. They are in jihad right? Thats where they go mental and tear at their faces and slobber and want to kill everything.

Yeah, we have seen it all before. On CNN.

And America is backing the freedom fighters. There is a picture of them in the Canadian Woman joins FSA thread.

As opposed to these people here...
www.sebcsyria.com...

Yeah those would be Syrians. English websites about entrepreneurship for youth and economic development programs and housing development initiatives.
And you want to put those armed thugs in there.

Well that figures. Just remember what goes around, comes around.

This sounds like disinformation, just like the Libya Farce, Iraq WMDs, Bin Laden assassination and so on.

The report by Thierry Meyssan seems very plausible.

They fabricated false information in advance, on the basis of a “story-telling” script devised by Ben Rhodes’s team at the White House. A procedure of reciprocal validation was installed, with each media quoting the lies of the other media to render them plausible for TV spectators. The participants also decided not only to requisition the TV channels of the CIA for Syria and Lebanon (Barada, Future TV, MTV, Orient News, Syria Chaab, Syria Alghad) but also about 40 religious Wahhabi TV channels to call for confessional massacres to the cry of “Christians to Beyrouth, Alawites into the grave!.”

Syrians wanting to watch their national TV stations will see them replaced on their screens by TV programs created by the CIA. Studio-shot images will show massacres that are blamed on the Syrian Government, people demonstrating, ministers and generals resigning from their posts, President Al-Assad fleeing, the rebels gathering in the big city centers, and a new government installing itself in the presidential palace.

www.davidicke.com...

I was just driving home from a friends place listening to BBC radio Australia and there was a segment on the escalating violence in Lebanon and the potential for this to reignite the Lebanese civil war where the ruling Sunni's support the Syrian "uprising".

Assad was also quoted as saying that if the security of Syria is lost he will start a fire in the middle east. I'm not 100% on when he actually said it, under what circumstances and how blown out of proportion this is however.

The correspondant presenting the segment seemed to think it would drag surrounding nations such as Iraq in to it.
People have been saying things will get interesting soon for a hell of a long time now but I think why happens in that region may be a significant point of escalation.

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Oh yeah its going to culminate and the mid east will look like a hornets nest. Israel will hit iran and lebanon and probably invade and hold palestine hostage during the fighting. The US will join Israel in Iran and we will be doing our thing in Syria. Other mideast countries will be drawn in and still others may just jump at the chance to get israel.

Then the big questions will Russia start in in defense of iran and syria? Maybe not if its one or the other, but if both go? I just don't know. If Russians are killed when israel hits iran then it will be a lot more likely. Then the other big question will china seize its chance and join in the fight to hurt the us and hold its african interests? That's less likely than Russia, but its more possible iff Russia is in on it.

I don't know if it will bring the super powers head to head, that seems less likely, but it will start a scramble. And that's world war three. The start at least.

Top Syrian official who defected was with the opposition 'from day one'

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(CNN) -- A top Syrian diplomat who defected Wednesday said in an interview broadcast Thursday that he has sympathized with the opposition movement since it began in March 2011, but had held out hope that President Bashar al-Assad would change course.

Ok, so in the new foreign ownership laws (2008), there is this little thing there that says, you (lets say an Arab) can buy land there for housing development, but you cannot pass it on to your children. You must sell it to a Syrian national within 1 year.

Or else it becomes the property of the state. So if you live to be a 100 its yours, but if you die, it must be sold within a year.

Well obviously the one year is not long enough. That should be something like 10 years.

Since the economy and the real estate market disintegrated a year after that law was made.

That would be a reasonable concession.