You have been lied too. Oh yes you have!!

We will get by

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Its a funny time to be alive and talking to people,most people dont think, they are on a treadmill just doing,they watch the tv for information, eh eh,so people think they think as they are getting information

this information is like 90% lie wrapped in 10% truth on a good day
so all they are thinking/speaking/doing is 90% lie wrapped in 10% truth
without truth you have nothing

if you came from another planet and observed this you would quickly setup a research station to study/document this peculiar behaviour not seen on other worlds anywhere, people living a whole lifetime and never knowing anything and thinking they are educated and know everything there is to know.the old lady next door to me says when she was young they knew nothing, not like today where so much information is available. But when we talk she parrots the tv word for word eh eh, i try to enlighten her but she just parrots tv, you can only lead a horse to water. the delusions are programmed into people from day1,religion is a delusion device that closes the mind and spirit,dont pray to one of the gods,pray to Your Spirit,your spirit is REAL and is a part of the Creation,try it.all we truly know is we dont know much of anything.as we leave the age of faith the age of reason dawns and we are headed for many changes.the church will fall, the banksters are trying to keep the world but the system they use is self destructive, people are becoming aware of the lies,dont let em microchip ya whatever happens or thats the end

I don't believe the problem is the deception but the reason why we feel we have to decieve in the first place!
This is the real problem with our society and most of us lie to protect ourselves from embaressment, pain whether emotional or physical and for gain but most of this could be eliminated if we lived true to ourselves as
equals! I doubt this would end all deception but it would be a hell of a start!

Originally posted by havok
They don't want you to know the truth, or you may not accept it and revolt.

Truth.

Originally posted by havok
Just ask yourself, as a parent, how many times you've lied to your kids about topics.
Ranging from Santa Claus to religion

My daughter has been told the truth about everything from me. She still enjoys life, even though she's disillusioned with politics, dolphin shows, and faces the finality of death.

Originally posted by havok
just how many lies do you think you've told?

Does that include the lies I told to my dad?

Originally posted by havok
If you allow yourself to get consumed with a contrived "consumer" system, you lie.
Which, is what most parents do to their children on a regular basis.

Word, but that new Spidey suit is awesome.

Originally posted by havok
If you've ever worked as a salesperson, you've lied to gain profits for a company.
There are NO truths in sales or consumerism, because the system is based off lies.
Profit does not manifest itself when you tell the customer how much your cost was.
Managers and salesmen all know that profit is a lie in itself.
You must lie about your price to make a profit.

I've sold toys for various companies and have been very successful. When asked how I do it, I confess that I'm honest. Other salespeople are surprised to find that this "technique" works.

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Have you ever tried to be honest in situations only to get screwed over for telling the truth?
I'm a very poor liar particularly in person. Time and again I've gotten the short end of the stick for lack of ability in this key area of social skills. I have no desire to change it though, I've been this way for over 50 years and I can live with myself. How others can victimize people through deceit is beyond my comprehension. Sometimes I feel as if I might be a different species altogether.

You and me both! For some strange reason i have never been a very astute deciever! maybe it's cause i hate to be lied to maybe for some other nefarious reason like not wanting to be a servent of evil! Well whatever the reason is I always have trouble looking people in the eyes when I lie but I never decive for trivial reasons and
never understood those people that do! maybe it's cause Deception can be so heinous in nature and i am more nurturer! I wonder what the world would be like if we were alot more transparent! Would it be better or would there be kaos? Maybe someone should start a thread!

G'day to my American mates, it saddens me to see what is going on

it boils down to 2 things that need fixing fast, top priority

1. the people are not being informed, (media ownership) most people just parrot the tv

2. the fed (is the key)

all the nuclear reactors on the planet can be shut down for years from (one) solar storm, fukushima was just power couldnt be provided to cooling systems, large solar storms would wipe out circuits at the manufacturing plants also e.g. generator manufacture. We havnt had them long but better learn soon

cold fusion is real google: Rossi cold fusion
it was debunked by people who's career and billions in funding was at stake

everything on tv is scripted, its fantasy created to control you, EVERYTHING!!!
if you cant see the lies try infowars.com asap

did you parrot the tv today? honestly

Lying is pervasive in society. The fact of the matter is that people prefer being lied to. Just start telling people the truth and you will see what I mean.

Most people prefer to believe fantasies. The truth is a bitter pill to swallow, most of the time.

Personally, I prefer the truth and I try to adhere to the truth, but I don't have many friends. In fact most people avoid me and I avoid most people. Being with people, for me, most of the time, is like attending a child's amusement park.

People don't like the truth and they don't want the truth. They delegate the handling of the truth to others and put themselves in peril because of it. But that's the way people are.

As one psychiatrist said, "People are nutty."

Men are not men: let them know why

One of the reasons men are like girls and let the lies continue is

milk has female hormones so makes men think like a girl and soft body
try for 2 weeks only drink rice or oat milk you will see i dont lie
soy milk is bad also so dont drink it

Not only is milk from a lactating FEMALE cow the farmer also pumps the cow with FEMALE hormones

amino acids fix this if you stop drinking milk

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
Everyone, even you, tells lies. This is a very basic, human, flaw people. So dont tell me your somehow surprised! "Oh no, gasp lies" Or the exception. "I never ever tell lies.*Halo on top of head glows brightly*"

What matters is the capability to hide those lie. The best could be found out, if you looked close enough.

edit on 3-7-2012 by TsukiLunar because: (no reason given)

I believe the OP admitted that. That was his point!

I thought all of this was obvious... Even before the conspiracy "age" rly started getting momentum.
All my life i didnt understand banks, business, medicinal and the schools... Or more like, i didnt thrust them. Even when i was 10 years old i was wondering why they gave kids with ADHD drugs... it felt so odd... Well at the age of 18-19 a friend introduced me to the 9/11 conspiracys and ever since then i have been one depressed mofo!... I hate life, i hate everything this world is... I love the honest and open minded people who dont label you. But its just not enough... Depressed thoughts enter my mind countless times a day... All just feels so pointless... The only truth were gonna get no matter u guys like it or not, or atleast when we can be 100% certain! is when we die... Live hard Die young !... Ive experienced some rly cool stuff in lucid / sleep paralysis / meditation / drugs / meditation on drugs!... But all in all i dont thrust that either... Whos to say its not a product of my / our imagination... Im tired and in the end the only thing that matters is CHOICE... For good or worse. Some of theese new age people have they head stuck so far up their ass im wondering how they even eat... They act as their truth is the only truth... All they want us all to come together, to be one... to think alike to act alike... to worship alike... and it all sounds very interresting and wonderful... But whos to say thats the truth... And how will this wave of "new age" act when a person denys their belief, or rather chooses not to follow it... Will they act in love and acceptance?... i doubt it...
We the people must thrust no1 else other then our GUT... We all have that little barometer of whats right and wrong... Go with it, dont follow the masses... Follow your instincts...

Sry for off topic, i just started writing... im just so tired... life a funny thing.... aint it ?

Any restaurant that serves hamburger goes out of its way to reassure you how pure and natural it is. Restaurant chains like McDonald's ("All our burgers are made from 100 percent beef, supplied by farms accredited by nationally recognized farm assurance schemes") and Taco Bell ("Like all U.S. beef, our 100 percent premium beef is USDA inspected, then passes our 20 quality checkpoints") happily vouch for the authenticity of their animal bits. Their testaments to the healthiness and fullness of their meat read out like they were talking about freaking filet mignon. It's how they get it clean that's unsettling. The Horror: Ammonia. You know, the harsh chemical they use in fertilizers and oven cleaners? It kills E.coli really well. So, they invented a process where they pass the hamburger through a pipe where it is doused in ammonia gas. And you probably never heard about it, other than those times that batches of meat stink of ammonia so bad that the buyer returns it.

Yes, I have noticed this occasionally. I always put it down to 'gamey' meat. I didn't realise the weird taste and smell was due to amonia and E-Coli erradication.

I suddenly am not wanting a double cheese Burger anymore.

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Good thread. It's part of the system. The dregs of society usually make it to powerful positions where they can wreak havoc on the planet so there'll be conflict. The good vs. bad dichotomy is probably the fulcrum that keeps existence functioning. Reality can't be too good or it'll kill life's purpose of learning.

But one shouldn't be too affected by it. As the good book reassuringly states: "Do not worry about the ways of the world, for all things will come to pass".

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Not to mention GE getting all the "Green Industry" contracts and tax breaks. At least they don't own a media outlet. Oh wait, they own NBC. Oops.

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
I'm a very poor liar particularly in person. Time and again I've gotten the short end of the stick for lack of ability in this key area of social skills. I have no desire to change it though, I've been this way for over 50 years and I can live with myself. How others can victimize people through deceit is beyond my comprehension. Sometimes I feel as if I might be a different species altogether.

If not being a psycho makes you a different species. Then the reptile in your avatar is misleading.

Have you ever tried to be honest in situations only to get screwed over for telling the truth?

I've never had this happen to me more than when I was young and trusted the cops. Paid for it everytime. After a few times I learned.

Not a word.

YOU JUST FIGURED THIS OUT NOW???

Saddest part is theyve actually told us all the truth but most of you will never admit it.

"The machinery of Capitalism is oiled with the blood of the workers." Quote from "The Simpsons".

I could go on and on BUT if the above sentence alone doesnt enrage you, you are already brainwashed.

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Why lie?

Once you lie you change the whole game.
You are not playing fair and slow down the improvement of humankind, stunt the progress of man's span on earth. Maybe interesting for anyone not tangled in a web of deceit at the moment but It keeps our evolution slow going. Is it worth it? What you gain is temporary and you set us all back considerably. All lies eventually do unravel. Only the truth can withstand constant barrage and scrutiny.

I don't see a reason to lie.

But then, I don't want anything I don't already have, got nothing to hide and I don't care what people think.
I think these are the 3 main reasons for lying as long as you include money and fame in "things somebody might want."

People lie because they have an agenda, a master plan and they are headed there instead of being truthful and forthcoming to fellow humans who may depend on truthful information to do the right thing for themselves. You denigrate others in this kind of lie. Usually it is for wealth or fame. People lie because they are sorry about who they are, they may want to conceal what they have. They want to change those impressions and they think words will. Often they do, in anothers mind but they never change the reality or the consequences.

When you lie you say you are a cheater and might fudge the truth for an effect. You might cry wolf. Lies are cracks in your dependability, your trustworthiness. Who are we playing the game of life on earth here with anyway? Get rid of the liars. I want a better class of player, a more deserving participant.
Once you lie, you change the whole game. It becomes something dirty.

You have been lied too. Oh yes you have!!

The writing on the wall

There it is.

Again.

I wonder sometimes why folks of a sort feel it necessary to remind us of this on ATS every 2-4 months.

Do we not know this already ATS?

The correct way to state this might go something like this...

"We have been lied to by Us!, oh yes we have!"

There is no man behind the curtain. There is no Oz. This is it. Get used to it.

The Cult wrote a song about it. Wanna hear it? Here it goes...

You need to believe them first for them to lie to you. I never have.

Of course we have.

This is the sole reason for my ATS name... The Lie We Live.
Question everything, always.