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1. U.S. companies in total pay a smaller percentage of taxes than the lowest-income 20% of Americans. Total corporate profits for 2011 were $1.97 trillion. Corporations paid $181 billion in federal taxes (9%) and $40 billion in state taxes (2%), for a total tax burden of 11%. The poorest 20% of American citizens pay 17.4% in federal, state, and local taxes.
4. Many Americans get just a penny on the dollar.
– For every dollar of NON-HOME wealth owned by white families, people of color have only one cent.
– For every dollar the richest 1% earned in 1980, they’ve added three more dollars. The poorest 90% have added one cent.
– For every dollar of financial securities (e.g., bonds) in the U.S., the bottom 90% of Americans have a penny and a half’s worth.
– For every dollar of 2008-2010 profits from Boeing, DuPont, Wells Fargo, Verizon, General Electric, and Dow Chemicals, the American public got a penny in taxes.
Limiting the tax relief available to the richest Americans on pension contributions and mortgage payments will help curb income inequality that the OECD says is the fourth-highest among the 34 countries it surveys. “Income inequality and relative poverty are among the highest in the OECD,” the organisation said in its annual survey of the US. “At the same time, there is no consensus in the economic literature that reducing inequality would be harmful to economic growth.”
2. The high-profit, tax-avoiding tech industry was built on publicly-funded research. The technology sector has been more dependent on government research and development than any other industry. The U.S. government provided about half of the funding for basic research in technology and communications well into the 1980s. Even today, federal grants support about 60 percent of research performed at universities. IBM was founded in 1911, Hewlett-Packard in 1947, Intel in 1968, Microsoft in 1975, Apple and Oracle in 1977, Cisco in 1984. All relied on government and military innovations. The more recently incorporated Google, which started in 1996, grew out of the Defense Department’s ARPANET system and the National Science Foundation’s Digital Library Initiative.
The combined 2011 federal tax payment for the eight companies was just 10.6%.
Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
I don't support all of the Marxist ideals or order, I am not an extremist and do not want to see a state control of all resources etc.
In the anarchist, Marxist and socialist sense, free association (also called free association of producers or, as Marx often called it, community of freely associated individuals) is a kind of relation between individuals where there is no state, social class or authority, in a society that has abolished the private property of means of production. Once private property is abolished, individuals are no longer deprived of access to means of production so they can freely associate themselves (without social constraint) to produce and reproduce their own conditions of existence and fulfill their needs and desires.
In place of the constitutional bourgeois state, which for Hegel constituted the end point of historical development, Marx puts forward the concept of 'the free association of producers'. This is a social order which dispenses with any kind of coercive force standing over and above it, and whose members manage their own affairs through consensus....
According to Marx, capitalism is merely a stage of historical development. It will eventually collapse under the weight of a laboring class (the proletariat) which increasingly becomes poorer and more numerous. The inconsistency of fewer and fewer people controlling more and more of the means of production will lead to capitalism’s collapse because eventually it will become too great an interference with production. At that time, the proletariat will create a rational society with no wages, no money, no social classes, and, eventually no state - “a free association of producers under their own conscious and purposive control.” (McInes, Neil “Karl Marx,” in The Encyclopedia of Philosophy, Volumes 5 & 6, MacMillan Publishing Co. (NY: 1967) p. 172.)
Originally posted by bjax9er
corporations are not the problem, it is the law, and the politicians.
corporations will do whatever it takes to make money, it is human nature.
Marxism isn't state control. Marxism is a way to re-order society in order to allow socialism to work. It supports a temporary state system where some forms of the old capitalist system remains and industry is mostly nationalised. This is called the transition period. The idea is during this transition period production would be increased, and re-organized, in order to meet peoples needs.
According to Marx, capitalism is merely a stage of historical development. It will eventually collapse under the weight of a laboring class (the proletariat) which increasingly becomes poorer and more numerous. The inconsistency of fewer and fewer people controlling more and more of the means of production will lead to capitalism’s collapse because eventually it will become too great an interference with production. At that time, the proletariat will create a rational society with no wages, no money, no social classes, and, eventually no state - “a free association of producers under their own conscious and purposive control.”
Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
Yes agreed, however those who have seized control through Marxist ideals have never seen it through as a transition period either as a result of pressure from counter revolutionary forces abroad i.e. Cuba or though the cynicism of those involved and corruption of power in a one party state i.e. Soviet Union and others.
If that does not describe the state of and effect of capitalism in much of the developed and developing world today I don't know what does.
Socialism was replaced with liberalism, and liberalism became the new "socialism". But liberalism isn't socialism. Liberalism is capitalism with a social safety net, socialism is worker ownership of the means of production.
The capitalists new what Marx new, and set society up so that when the capitalist economy fails the workers would not revolt, and take over the running of industry themselves.
This week, David Segal at the New York Times broke the news to America that not only was Apple -- the computer and gadget manufacturer formerly seen as a symbol of good old American ingenuity -- making its profits on the backs of abused factory workers in China, but also on poorly paid store employees here in the US.
Apple store workers, he wrote, make up a large majority of Apple's US workforce—30,000 out of 43,000 employees in this country—and they make about $25,000 a year, or about $12 an hour. Lawrence Mishel at the Economic Policy Institute notes that that's just a dollar above the federal poverty level. This for a company that paid nine of its top executives a total of $441 million in 2011.
Corporate taxes, too—at least the ones corporations actually pay—are at a 40-year low, with an effective tax rate paid of 12.1 percent. They've fallen from about 6 percent of GDP to less than 2 percent, according to ThinkProgress's Pat Garofalo. Once again, that's what you can buy when you'd rather pay politicians than your workers.
“In late November, 2007, a Barclays employee responsible for submitting Libor borrowing costs said in an email that Libor was “not reflecting the true cost of money … Not really sure why contributors are keeping them so low but it is not a good idea at the moment to be seen to be too far away from the pack,” according to the FSA regulatory filing.”
How do you like that? Caught red-handed. So why has it taken 4 years for the first fines to be imposed when anyone with two neurons and a frontal lobe could see that the rates were being tweaked back in 2008? Where are the regulators? Where are the criminal prosecutions? Why isn’t anyone in jail?
The stench of corruption is overpowering.
-18- to 35-year-olds: Your median net worth has dropped 68% since 1984. It’s now less than $4,000.
-The Richest 1%: They tripled their share of income between 1980 and 2006, then took 93% of all the new income in the first year after the 2008 recession. Their median net worth is now over $5,000,000.
As your parents and mentors, we told you to stay in school and work hard and everything would be fine. But you don’t have jobs. Over half of college graduates were jobless or underemployed in 2011. More than 350,000 Americans with advanced degrees were receiving food stamps or some other form of public assistance.
Yes, it’s a lifetime investment, for the holder of your student loans. As corporate profits and CEO salaries and incomes of the 1% have surged over the past ten years, education financing declined by 24 percent, and tuition at state schools increased 72 percent. Since 1985, while consumer prices have approximately doubled, tuition has risen almost 600%. Total state education cuts for fiscal 2012 were $12.7 billion. A study by Citizens for Tax Justice noted that 265 of our nation’s largest companies avoided about the same amount in state taxes each year from 2008 to 2010.
Originally posted by bjax9er
reply to post by Peruvianmonk
corporations will do whatever it takes to make money, it is human nature.
Originally posted by bjax9er
reply to post by Peruvianmonk
corporations are not the problem, it is the law, and the politicians.
corporations will do whatever it takes to make money, it is human nature.
Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
I don't understand the reaction people have, it's reflexive, that when someone implys that our form of capitalism isn't working perfectly then there's this violent opposition where the OP gets labeled an evil socialist.
"You don't back our system that's currently falling apart?! You're an evil socialist! SOCIALIST!"
I mean, good god, calm down, argue the facts, and stop turning ideas into pejoratives just because you heard someone say "Socialism is bad, MMKAY!"