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Originally posted by crankyoldman
If I never use a doctor, why is it your problem? If none of the "healthcare" I use is covered, what am I paying for?
How about a tax on NOT going to the gym?
Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
Still nothing?
Nobody can think of an example of people being taxed on NOT taking an action?
Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1
Sure,
You are taxed on Social Security every week. Have you seen a dime from it?
You are taxed on your home if you own one. Have you seen any improvements on your street due to it? I haven't in 7 years.
You are taxed on food every time you buy a piece of food. What have you gotten out of it?
You are taxed on your internet connection right now. Have you seen a dramatic increase in your broadband? I haven't in 7 years.
The list goes on and on
Has there ever been a tax on NOT doing something?
Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
Still nothing?
Nobody can think of an example of people being taxed on NOT taking an action?
Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
Originally posted by g2v12
Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
Originally posted by shaluach
reply to post by Juggernog
Do you make less than 250K and/or have your own insurance from the company you work for? If yes to either then you won't have to purchase health care or be taxed.
Your replies have nothing to do with the topic of this thread. This is not a debate on the merits, or lack thereof, of Obamacare.
Judge Roberts' ruling was based on the premise that the ACA mandate is actually a tax, and that Congress has powers to tax.
The topic of this thread is simple: do you know of any other taxes levied on people for NOT doing something?
Congress had the power to tax us on all of the welfare subsidies, unemployment, food stamps, aid to children, even abortion is paid by my tax. Not sure what the big fuss is all about.
Those are taxes to subsidize other people's lack of action.
My question still stands: has there ever been an individual tax levied on people for NOT taking some sort of action?
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Has there ever been a tax on NOT doing something?
Does it matter?
There is no law that says that Government can only do things they have previously done in the past.
Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Has there ever been a tax on NOT doing something?
Does it matter?
There is no law that says that Government can only do things they have previously done in the past.
Of course it matters.
Until now the tax code has been used for social engineering based on rewarding or penalizing actions, not forcing people to buy products or services at gunpoint.
I'm 100% certain that the American public does not want a Draconian government that forces them to buy any product or service at gunpoint. Failure to buy insurance results in a tax. Failure to pay the tax results in the IRS confiscating your money. Failure to comply with the IRS will ultimately result in arrests. Failure to comply with arrests will result in federal agents with guns showing up to take you in.
The car insurance comparison is a false analogy. Nobody must drive a car. People are free to live in cities and not have cars. Nobody is forced to get a passport and travel through airports. People are free to stay home.
America used to be synonymous with Freedom to act, or not act, in the way the individual desired. No more.
So to answer your question, yes it matters if you value living in a free society and not being forced to do things you don't want to do.
Originally posted by g2v12
Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Has there ever been a tax on NOT doing something?
Does it matter?
There is no law that says that Government can only do things they have previously done in the past.
Of course it matters.
Until now the tax code has been used for social engineering based on rewarding or penalizing actions, not forcing people to buy products or services at gunpoint.
I'm 100% certain that the American public does not want a Draconian government that forces them to buy any product or service at gunpoint. Failure to buy insurance results in a tax. Failure to pay the tax results in the IRS confiscating your money. Failure to comply with the IRS will ultimately result in arrests. Failure to comply with arrests will result in federal agents with guns showing up to take you in.
The car insurance comparison is a false analogy. Nobody must drive a car. People are free to live in cities and not have cars. Nobody is forced to get a passport and travel through airports. People are free to stay home.
America used to be synonymous with Freedom to act, or not act, in the way the individual desired. No more.
So to answer your question, yes it matters if you value living in a free society and not being forced to do things you don't want to do.
The reason Obama took the route he did was because the insurance lobby pulled strings in congress when Obama's original bill was up for vote. His original plan was to provide health care for a neglected cross section of Americans (about thirty million) who were not covered in existing programs.
Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1
Didnt you just make a thread yesterday in support of this illegal law?
This is why i love America
Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
Just thinking about this ruling.
Does anybody know of any tax for NOT doing something?
I can't think of any examples of taxes imposed for NOT doing something.
This could open up an entirely new form of social engineering.
How about a tax on NOT going to the gym? That would be appropriate if we're all going to share the cost of each other's health care.
Originally posted by UltimateSkeptic1
This thread is about the novelty of creating tax law that taxes people on actions they do NOT take.
I'm wondering if this sets a precedent that will wake people up to voting in the fall. In 2008 it was roughly only 35% of the eligible voters who put Obama and the Dems in control. I'm curious if people will realize that their government has now crossed into new territory by passing a tax law that taxes absence of an activity.
Originally posted by shaluach
reply to post by Juggernog
Do you make less than 250K and/or have your own insurance from the company you work for? If yes to either then you won't have to purchase health care or be taxed.