Melatonin and the Master Gland

reply to post by Egyptia


It should not cause any side-effects; your body was designed to naturally manufacture it every night.

Very timely thread and something I have had experience with.
Psychiatrists at a particular spot here, have been utilising abilities they have been able to tap into, all the while when someone 'presents' they are given this stuff instead. Two of the staff 'talked' to me inside my head and I had visions, which they weren't interested in at all. They are not honest or smart. People are their lab rats, nothing more.

poison

now there has to be something said about the volume of money in law suits regarding this drug alone (and it's buddy Zyprexa), but how and why do we use it here now and to what extent?
It can do serious damage if over done, and with a drug now ask question later doctorine I bet it happens more often than we hear about.
I met a fellow who they fried with this drug, and now has akathisia (which is a terrible thing to see) and it's incurable.

Toxic stuff
There's something to be said to being a 'responsible' drug taker.


I have just finished reading this book
The Principals of Light and Color

which was printed/written in 1878, they knew then what they should have been focusing on for general human health, but they chose to go the way we have been living instead, which has caused multitudes of disease and death, but big money there.

posting for .
future referance..

Originally posted by BABYBULL24

Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by BABYBULL24

 

It works extremely well in conjunction with the L-Theanine, Niacin, Serotonin(5-HTP), L-Tryptophan, and a few others.

Like im not a doctor but it also seems good for stress & blood flow. I hate Sunday nights cause of work Monday but load up on the Melatonin Sunday around 9pm & it mellows you out & look forward to going to sleep. Its good stuff - no doubt!

edit on 30-6-2012 by BABYBULL24 because: (no reason given)

I recall seeing a program about teenage insomniacs and they used light therapy early in the mornings to retrain their brains to produce the melatonin for when the sun goes down, this is the time that it's suppose to kick in naturally, from what I remember. Anyway it worked.

I can't stand poping pills if I don't have to, so learning to do this naturally through meditation will essentially clean your system too. The body is a truly facinating thing.
The book link I posted does describe a light therapy and can be used for small amounts of time on your head and at various spots and explains what that can do for you. It well worth the read.

Originally posted by Nicole101
Fantastic stuff! My path only recently led me into this stuff.
I am pretty new in my learning process but I feel something is telling me to tune in.

I want to work on opening my Pineal Gland to work towards a more aware and awakened life. I want to get in touch with consciousness. It is a must.

I have read as much as I can so forgive me if the obvious was already discussed but what is the best path to to take for what I seek?

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(op sorry to but in :/ )

another link for some great articles on the subject matter.

Safely avoid and remove dangerous man-made fluoride

and then....

Murcury poisoning.............. - no multidimansional perception

and my favourite x

Solar Storms and the pineal gland - riding the power wave

You can never ever read too much

Very interesting thread. I just read the book '___': The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman. He led research into '___''s effect on the pineal gland in human test volunteers at the University of New Mexico. In the book he explains well the subjects of melatonin and Di-methyltryptamine. His notes on what the test subjects reported in their "trips" was nothing short of extraordinary. Makes a person re-think everything from dreams to near-death experiences to alien abductions.
Also interesting to note was the crop circle seen on on July 23rd 2011 that looks like the chemical structure of melatonin.
"Melatonin Crop Circle"
Are we being guided in a specific direction by some sentient entity/entities? It would be cool...

First off, this is a great thread. Thanks for all the info. I am very interested in all this, but mainly the sleep issue. I've been on medical marijuana all of my adult life and was able to sleep well except during times when I wasn't taking it. I quit for about a year and would stay up all night, but I was eating better then and it eventually got a little better and I was having vivid dreams because the house I was living in was very active. The past year I've started taking it again, but I recently had to quit due to financial reasons. I cannot get to sleep until early morning and have felt very off because I can't afford to eat well either and I haven't had any dreams in my new house. After reading this, I'm going to start taking my vitamins daily and see if that helps until I can get some amino acid supplements. One of my questions is: Can long term use of marijuana cause sleep problems? I don't think that's the case since both my parents have insomnia also and they rarely smoke. I also have a question about the melanin. Benign melanoma runs in my family and I recently read that caffeine or coffee helps prevent it, have you heard any connection to that and the pituitary and also do you think there could be some sort of deficiency in my family that causes melanoma?

One issue I have been having with Melatonin is breast soreness. Ladies you may want to look into this before using. I researched and apparently it has been a common issue with other women out there. BUT I sure have been sleeping much better. Receiving VERY interesting dreams. An over all feel of calmness through out the day.
I wanted to ask you all the best tips on proper meditation. I am practicing meditation now as much as I can. However my mind (ego) is very chatty. In fact it talks to itself. I will get centered in the nothing and then the ego starts chatting. It is difficult for me to shut it off. Any tips?

Okay, the timing for this thread was interesting for me because in France, I have not found melatonin available before, at least not in my area. Yesterday I saw for the first time some being sold at the grocery store, and as my american family members have mentioned it before, I grabbed it.

Then I saw this thread, and decided to take it before going to sleep. But I don't really have problems sleeping, and have periods of very active lucid dreaming already- I just thought, what the heck? It is 1.5 mg.

I did get drowsy early and went to bed around 9:30, but woke up at 2:00 completely awake and unable to get back to sleep! I ended up coming down here and posting on ATS for hours waiting to get sleepy again.
Finally I was able to start falling asleep around 6:00, and slept until 9:00, when I woke up with a splitting headache and nausea. The nausea continues, many hours later.....

So I am thinking, this hasn't been such a successful experiment so far! Is there cases of people have an adverse opposing effect like insomnia? Or headaches and nausea?
I felt like like I do during a fullmoon, except it wasn't!

Well, decided to try again last night, and this time had no ill effects! I slept deeply all night, woke up when I had planned to.

I also had such intensely clear dreams! I've been thinking of an ex boyfriend who's been trying to flirt a bit with me on FB, and a bit troubled by how I still find him attractive.....but had a dream last night in which I did go have a fling with him.....
The dream was realistic enough to remind me of how null he was in bed! I feel safe in my vows of fidelity again
Yay for melatonin!

Originally posted by jtap66
I take 5-HTP at night. It changed the way I dream.

i have tried all the different dream drugs (the legal ones) and the results have been inconsistent at best. try one thing one week and the best lucid dream with total control of the dreamscape just to have nothing happen the next week using the same drugs

reply to post by jed001


You should keep cycling them so that you do not build a tolerance to it.

I also wanted to re-update the thread with a confirmation of evidence, in what I said regarding schizophrenia being related to high serotonin/tryptamine levels...

Researchers theorized that abnormal metabolites of endogenous chemicals such as tryptamine, serotonin, and tryptophan could be the explanation for mental disorders as schizophrenia, or psychosis.

www.erowid.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

Thanks for the thread and the great data collection here. I've taken melatonin for a long time, usually 2.5 grams bilingually but lately 5 grams by ingestion (a birthday gift). Everyone needs melatonin as we get older, as the body begins to make less and less of it as the years go by - we weren't originally designed to live long and some areas of the body think you're pretty old if you make it to your late 20s. Melatonin is one of those, and by the mid 40s there is very little made. Look at children and teens, they can go to sleep on a dime and snooze for 9 or 10 hours like it's nothing. Melatonin.

Thanks again!

reply to post by Aleister


When I take Melatonin at night; I sleep for at least 9-10 hours. It's not good though. I'd rather have an 16-8 cycle.

VeritasAequitas
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When I take Melatonin at night; I sleep for at least 9-10 hours. It's not good though. I'd rather have an 16-8 cycle.

I just came across this from over a year ago. I don't know why you'd sleep so long taking a melatonin supplement unless your body is already making enough. If you are young you don't need to supplement with melatonin, at least for sleep purposes. I haven't read the entire thread but what I have read is very interesting.

reply to post by Aleister


I take it to have more lucid dreams, as well as taking Vitamin C and 5-HTP before I go to bed. I dream so vividly I believe it's all real though..That's the problem, but I had to do it to regain the dreaming ability that I had a decade ago when I was just a little kid. My parents kinda put it into my head that dreaming had no potential benefit, and that I should forget them. I listened to them for a good while, thinking that my 'authority' knew what was best, and have since changed my opinion on the subject.

reply to post by VeritasAequitas


Dreams reveal more about ourselves than anything else.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


I would truly say I have to agree.

I have used Melatonin for the past ten years.After a lifetime of insomnia ,I have found it very effective,only to be told by someone from the Irish Medicines Board that I have imported an illegal substance from the US.They are asking people for details of transactions,presumably to close down web-sites.I don't think they have the right to,as they put "request"information !If they prosecute me for refusing things might get interesting.Stuart C