Healthcare Ruling: Individual Mandate Ruled CONSTITUTIONAL, entire law upheld.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by jam321
Constitutional....

It is a tax is what I heard.

Yes...every single station I had on came out and said it was struck down...talk about them jumping the gun (and me too)

Within 2 min of ruling fox news was already talking about appeals ....

How do you appeal the supreme court? Hahaha

Every news agency failed except rachel maddow....thats messed up

reply to post by MidKnight


Good point, but it's still an imposed mandate. The Feds enforce it through allocated tax dollars to road projects - or not, if states don't require it.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


Time to vote people into office to repeal this disaster...

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Ben81

 

Who knows? No one can even decide on what the SCOTUS has said much less what will be implemented.

I think most people are now agreeing that they have upheld the mandate.

The problem with the ruling is that they first wrote how the mandate is not covered by the commerece clause, and one other clause, and then said it was upheld as a tax.

It is a tax I will never pay. Ever. Period end of discussion. I am not being forced to buy something. I will fight it with all my being. I asked over and over and I will ask again here, what document do those bozos read from? It can't be the constitution unless they have a different one than I do. Those "justices" need to tarred and feathered. TODAY. This cannot stand. It just can't. They do not have the right to tell me what I have to buy. No court can give them that right. No matter what. I'd rather go to jail.

Originally posted by macman
We are screwed as a Nation.

Now the Govt can dictate what you have to purchase.


Nanny Govt just grew in size 100%

You hit the nail directly on the head.
We really are screwed, even as individuals.

Who?
We live in a corporatocracy. No one will ever get close to the White House unless they're purchased.
Citizens united + Obamacare = death of what this country is supposed to stand for.


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Now CNN is saying 100% upheld under the Taxation Claus.

This is complete BS.. again kicking myself for voting for Democrats in 2008. Never again.

Question though.. if Health Insurance is now considered a "Tax" .. then that means I can write off all of my health insurance expenses when doing my taxes?

And I hope Obama plans on taking responsibility for the largest tax increase in US history. I'll have to pay $600 more a month in "taxes" for health insurance or pay a fee to the IRS.

Originally posted by Ookie
It is a tax I will never pay. Ever. Period end of discussion. I am not being forced to buy something. I will fight it with all my being. I asked over and over and I will ask again here, what document do those bozos read from? It can't be the constitution unless they have a different one than I do. Those "justices" need to tarred and feathered. TODAY. This cannot stand. It just can't. They do not have the right to tell me what I have to buy. No court can give them that right. No matter what. I'd rather go to jail.

Or come to Canada

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Canada? You guys are where we are heading. No thanks.

Originally posted by kosmicjack
I really don't see how auto insurance can be mandated but to do so with health care is unconstitutional? Uninsured citizens cost the industry billions and raise the health care costs for the rest of us. If one is unconstitutional shouldn't the other also be unconstitutional?

Furthermore I'm disgusted that nine individuals decide the entire direction of our country.

ETA: CNN: Court may uphold the mandate through a tax clause....

edit on 6/28/2012 by kosmicjack because: (no reason given)

Driving is considerd a priviledge, not a right.


As for the uphold, this country is just spiraling further down the hole.

Obama care upheld -
Individual mandate upheld under tax.

Medicare requirement to the states was struck down.

5-4 decisions with Roberts as the swing vote.

Nice to know we were lied to in order to get this through.

As I am understanding this, it can be upheld if it is a tax, which pretty much means insurance will have to be administered through taxation itself instead of requiring individuals to buy private insurance. The law is constitutional if re-written in that manner, unconstitutional if requiring individuals to purchase their own insurance.

Confusing, but that's what I get.

TheRedneck

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Ben81

 

Canada? You guys are where we are heading. No thanks.

Thanks to Harper the pro zionist puppet clown

Nobody gives a damned about the Constitution anymore.

Nobody cares about freedom and individuality.

The last act of any democracy is to become a dictatorship.

This is how freedom ends, with thunderous applause.

Hitler was voted in.

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I cant even believe this crap. How can they freaking force us to buy something? Ill take the fine, itll be cheaper than the insurance premiums.

I was actually hoping it would be struck down


I was looking forward to a campaign about Medicare For All...but I guess we won't see that this year.

reply to post by freedom12


It's still a mandate.

And, using your logic, the States or Fed have more authority to mandate regarding a (human) "right" than a "privilege", given the Constitution.

reply to post by TheRedneck


That's my understanding, which means to account for the massive bureaucratic middle man to the middle man to get our healthcare, insurance premiums will have to skyrocket.

Originally posted by TheRedneck
As I am understanding this, it can be upheld if it is a tax, which pretty much means insurance will have to be administered through taxation itself instead of requiring individuals to buy private insurance. The law is constitutional if re-written in that manner, unconstitutional if requiring individuals to purchase their own insurance.

Confusing, but that's what I get.

TheRedneck

SPOT ON....that is exactly what it is

but everyone needs to understand we ALREADY were paying for people who didnt pay, through high medical cost

not much will change but for the most part most of us WILL NOT notice any difference