Five Good Reasons To Believe in UFOs:(or what is going on @ National Geo?)

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Once again i am putting my money where my mouth is and willing to meet man to man face to face
whatever you americans call a meeting etc to show you and explain..

Not on here.
Anyone in england can meet up straight away im game

I know it is black projects and i or you would eventually get frustrated if you knew
however i apologize that is why i am giving people a chance to meet up.

Dont you think for one second that i am not upset imagine finding out that it is a cover
for advanced craft.

Imagine your world crumbling to dust as you guys are bang into it like i was.
I read all the stories declassified documents read most of abductions cases
seen most documenteries seen all the sci fi stuff on tv read the books studied
the inertia system of some craft etc.read religious txts indian muslim christian
studied hyroglyphs various cave paintings Natural phenomena sprites
blue jets ie jack o lanterns willow the wisp balls of light .

Originally posted by Razimus
reply to post by anon72

 

computer generated mock ups aren't a good reason for anyone to believe in ufos, but as for the show 'chasing ufos', i laughed when i saw that ad, because unless you're one in a billion person who has a run in with a slow moving ufo you literally can't 'chase' one...

lets go out into the wilderness and chase us some ufos, sounds good to me, you can catch the ghosts of christmas past present and future easier than you can catch a ufo...

You mean ufo hunters on the history channel? Just yesterday they had the illinois episode with all kinds of first hand testimonials and photographic evidence. Bill Burns and crew are fantatstic imo although they tend to over-analyse everything into oblivion to convince the make-believe skeptics.

Seriously people either get it or they don't get it. There is no middle ground!

reply to post by DaveNorris


Dave it is a deal i kinda heard there may be a job coming up soon in margate
So if i am by there i will get the beers in my treat.

reply to post by denver22


Yes I understand ufos are a side show and a fake alien invasion is planned. The part we disagree with is that we got that technology from someone and did not create it by ourselves. The reptillians and greys are real like the sun shinning in the morning.

But they are not coming here now. They were here for thousands and thousands of years and live underground. Every government knows this but none speak about it. We call them demons and angels but they are really aliens. Mainstream religion is a farce!

Originally posted by denver22
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

Nothing bold about it come meet me it is not a threat best go tell the mods
you made a mistake not understanding english and jumping to conclusions .

It is the only way of me proving it .
Dont ask for it if you cannot meet up because the offer was there..

Meet me face to face to prove it or shut up assuming

So you say you are into security OP's?...

MI-5?....

Doubt you could ever be MI-6 level, because they never discuss anything outside of the departments..

MI-5 however has a history of being a little loose around the edges in security (same as the NSA BTW)..

I've met people that have seen actual DOD crafts landing on some out of the way place, even saw physical evidence left behind, examined it myself, and found it to be samples of epoxy resins with silica mix.. color was either NAVY grey, or AIR FORCE grey when examined..

Same kind of standard DOD material used as a "no slip" step enhancement for when pilots and mechanics climb on a smooth skinned surface of an aircraft, or step off onto a raised platform..

IN other words, nothing but human made products.. Interestingly enough however...

When I would go back to talk to them again, and show them results of the evidence I found, they would clam up, go into a panic, and say they will never talk about it ever again to anybody...

I'm more interested in the conventional technologies they use to observe people who "have" come into contact with DOD projects...

If you are still currently security, then you should "not" be talking about security associations, because that in itself is a security risk...

Don't you think?..

reply to post by anon72


I believe the Gov has been lying to us about it since Roswell, Before this event you could find news reports with quotes from the military and some Gov officials. Now we get BS, There has been to many reports around the globe for it to be fake. The U.K. used to staff a dept. to investigate sightings then it closed
Way before we had any type of technology to fly we had reports of sightings. Also we got airborne after Roswell with very fast equipments for flight and space

I believe they exists and live on this planet

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by denver22

 

Yes I understand ufos are a side show and a fake alien invasion is planned..

Right now we are getting somewhere as i will personally meet you half way on that as that could
be a possability all i know is that man made them with there hands.

The part we disagree with is that we got that technology from someone and did not create it by ourselves. The reptillians and greys are real like the sun shinning in the morning

Have you seen one ?

reply to post by QuantifedInfinity

I am merely saying that it is man made craft.
And my experience with the crop circle phenomena
no security risk there ..

reply to post by denver22


ahh Margate, aint been there for a while, i wonder if dreamland is still open. im probably too old for it now anyway.

reply to post by QuantifedInfinity


But i am not in that line of security like M I 5 OR M I 6.
i AM NOT GIVING ANY SECRETS AWAY THAT MAN DOES NOT ALLREADY KNOW.

It is declassified what i speak of no security risk to the country or the world.

Originally posted by VeniVidi
Just my opinion.
NatGeo is in the entertainment business to make money. Executives try to supply this entertainment based on what they believe the public wants. Paranormal has been a hot item in the last several years. I think a lot of it comes from the 2012 theories. I remember when all the Ghost Hunter programs started coming out. I couldn't believe that people were being drawn into these programs. One of them was a paranormal show, and in almost every episode the spirits threw a pebble at the hosts. It was so ridiculous, but people were drawn in. Why? In my opinion people are looking for proof that there is life after death. No one wants to believe that a box in the ground is the final chapter. I believe that the ones most likely drawn in are those that have no particular religious belief. Most Christians do not need proof of life after death.
As for the UFOs. A lot of people have seen and experienced things that they can't explain. UFO shows and books (and sites like ATS) offer them an answer to their mystery. Even the non believers are drawn into these shows even if it is just to reinforce their non belief.
Paranormal is big business for the entertainment industry, and big business means big money.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on this. Nat Geo was originally and still is a publication that educates people about things going on around the planet.

en.wikipedia.org...

It's not just an entertainment business designed to make money.

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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by denver22

 

Yes I understand ufos are a side show and a fake alien invasion is planned. The part we disagree with is that we got that technology from someone and did not create it by ourselves. The reptillians and greys are real like the sun shinning in the morning.

But they are not coming here now. They were here for thousands and thousands of years and live underground. Every government knows this but none speak about it. We call them demons and angels but they are really aliens. Mainstream religion is a farce!

Ahhh yes.. the constant argument that the technologies seen, are "beyond" mans ability to produce...

Civilizations of the past, always have remnants that still exist today, wither they decided to integrate into the new civilization upstart or not, is simply a question that cannot be answered, only postulated upon...

What you see is DOD level black projects, nothing more.. and certainly nothing "new", but refined and basic experimental packages..

As far as "aliens" well, as mentioned, they are nothing more then remnants of past civilizations and the rest is up to speculation...

WHY is it people think we are not capabel of this technology?..

If I was to tell you directly "EarthCitizen07" that I myself (a lowly human) actually quantified Infinity, and by association Quantified Zero & Entropy.. would you not call be a quack?, a loon?, a misinformed individual?, a person who has little to no understanding of physics and mathematical principles?...

Odd's are : "You would"..

Yet here we are...

I have accomplished this...and the world will do everything it can to "suppress it", lambaste it, and derail it's progress (a world I live through currently)...

Point is EarthCitizen07:

Humanity can do far more then you ever would give them credit for, in both deviousness, and innovation...

Originally posted by denver22

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by denver22

 

Yes I understand ufos are a side show and a fake alien invasion is planned..

Right now we are getting somewhere as i will personally meet you half way on that as that could
be a possability all i know is that man made them with there hands.

Certainly man made but after reverse engineering craft at area 51 and william patterson afb...

The part we disagree with is that we got that technology from someone and did not create it by ourselves. The reptillians and greys are real like the sun shinning in the morning

Have you seen one ?

edit on 28-6-2012 by denver22 because: (no reason given)

Thankfully no! But I have spoken to people on ATS who have seen reptillians in france near a deep minning site while walking home.

And this person knows about reptillians and greys first hand while working on DUMBS in america as chief geologist and engineeer.



Scary stuff man. You will never be the same. I sure as hell am not!

Originally posted by DaveNorris
reply to post by denver22

 

ahh Margate, aint been there for a while, i wonder if dreamland is still open. im probably too old for it now anyway.

Dreamland is in Margate? I thought it was on Michael Jacksons estate? Or was it Groom Lake/Area 51?

I'm confusing myself now!

There's ANOTHER new alien documentary on Nat Geo tonight called "The Truth Behind the UFOs: Popped", right after "When Aliens Attack". Not sure what the "popped" part means, but I'm going to watch. It really is interesting to see just how many shows about UFOs, aliens and exobiology have been made in the past year or two.

Originally posted by denver22
reply to post by QuantifedInfinity

 

But i am not in that line of security like M I 5 OR M I 6.
i AM NOT GIVING ANY SECRETS AWAY THAT MAN DOES NOT ALREADY KNOW.

It is declassified what i speak of no security risk to the country or the world.

Ahh.. will then....

It would be adventurous to meet IRL with you, but alas, I fear such a meeting will never happen to compare notes, trade technological knowledge, simply because I reside in the sovereign u.s., while you of course reside in the U.K, and because some of the technological knowledge I have done in R&D would fall under the heading of NSA breech of security (think encryption methodologies) ....

Shame really... too bad flights are too expensive, and the hurdles one has to go through to achieve such a meeting(s) are of the upper 1% branch of humanities abilities...

Humanity could do well to interact more rather then just "online"...

I have reconciled the internet to being as that of a secretary, you only have to pay a set rate to each month for services rendered, it can filter out so much, yet the final decision is always up to the "clients"...

One day (perhaps) people of like mind and abilities will be able to gather and share information and knowledge without having a corporate tit to feed upon for subsistence..

Until then...

One does, what one can...

Originally posted by QuantifedInfinity

Originally posted by denver22
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

I've met people that have seen actual DOD crafts landing on some out of the way place, even saw physical evidence left behind, examined it myself, and found it to be samples of epoxy resins with silica mix.. color was either NAVY grey, or AIR FORCE grey when examined..

I wont ask you to name names and stuff same with me i will not..
I dont mean to get angry with people on here just like you you know the score about
it all i aint no agent or anything like that just someone who knows like you..

It gets mighty frustrating when you know about it however anyone can look up what i will say
As declassified info availible to the public etc.

We as the public know about cloaking tech as from a time you should know yourself
Again no security issue there.

At first i admit crop circles i found amusing when humans who i will not name make profit and
seek attention but at times it has made me angry as well.

Cannot speak for america i admit that but england yes regarding crop circles.

reply to post by Wide-Eyes


2 places same name, anyway, its off topic. what thread am i in again lol??

UFOs right,

i saw a documentary once, cant remember the name but it showed how most rocket tech and advances in air warfare in ww2 were actually coming from the german forces, thats why when the war was over America offered german scientist imunity if they worked on american rocket systems. this documentary had interveiws and documents describing german attempts to create a flying disc like vehicle and speculated that this was reverse engineered from a crashed UFO that german troops shot down

it was an interesting show, whether or not you beleive it is another story. i personally think it is plausable, but that does not make it true

reply to post by DaveNorris


Operation Paperclip.

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by Wide-Eyes


yeah, they quoted operation paperclip a lot in that documentary but im unsure if any of the UFO stuff is in the documents for that particular operation