What good is Bush?

What good is Bush?

1. He cannot even express correctly what he thinks.

e.g. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

2, He has no common knowledge. He doesn't know the money of Russia and Iraq.

Bush speaks of 'Soviet dinar' in speech about Iraq

Wed Aug 18, 8:28 PM ET HUDSON, United States (AFP) - US President George W. Bush spoke of "the Soviet dinar," even though dinars are the Iraqi currency.

story.news.yahoo.com.../afp/20040819/pl_afp/us_vote_bush_dinar&cid=1521&ncid=1963&sid=96378801

3. He had no ability to handle and foresee the development of a big event. He said "(Iraq war) Mission is accomplished". We know it is not.

4. He is dumb to react an emergence. He had no reaction to a big attack(When WTC was bombed) for 7 minutes.

To react properly in above events is not difficult for most people. How can be in such a great country like US, we have no better selection but an incompetent Bush?

No wonder he is the big joke abroad. George W. Bush is a big winner at the World Stupidity Awards in Canada.

Bush wins fest's top 'stupid award'
But U.S. president loses to Saddam for Just for Laughs' lifetime awards
Nelson Wyatt
The Canadian Press
July 25, 2004

MONTREAL - The November elections may still be ahead of him, but U.S. President George W. Bush has already come out a big winner at the World Stupidity Awards.

Mr. Bush was a dominating presence at the second edition of the awards presented at the Just for Laughs comedy festival taking place in Montreal

Mr. Black said the awards "celebrate the pros" and "perfection in idiocy" because real stupidity is hard work.

www.canada.com...

Bush, with his low IQ, even not dare to face kerry's challenge to debate each week. Yet, media from time to time said Bush is leading over Kerry. Do you believe it?
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This is how insider group manipulate American election. They steal it by intelligent covert job. (Those who controlled intelligence, they controlled election office) And make people believe the result is reasonable by fake poll.

1. Okay, he has a problem getting his thoughts across, but i'm sure you are always perfectly articulate. I'm sure every other politician in the capital is always articulate

"I actually voted for the 87 billion dollars before I voted against it" Real articulate

2. Let me name ten countries off the top of my head and see if you can name their currency. I think this shows how heavily Iraq is weighing on his mind rather than how unintelligent he is.

3. I don't think, in all honestly, he had any idea of how much of a mess it would be. I genuinely think his advisors had him under the impression that this would be a quick, huge success. Look at a picture of GW two years ago and compare to today. This war is weighing very heavily on him and he is deeply troubled about it. He genuinely wishes to do the right thing, and wants to be successful in Iraq, but he also know that the political machine in Washington is tying his hands and our military's hands and not letting us conduct the war and send in as many troops as we truly need. I believe that the talking heads and the people in the Senate and House are trying to turn this into a quagmire by not letting us fight the war the way it needs to be fought.

4. Your griping about a seven minute interval between finding out and reacting. I have an idea, let's jump right up and declare America under attack and scare a bunch of little kids. Also, remember, Kerry (your 'intellectual'), sat, by his OWN admission, for almost 45 MINUTES 'unable to think'. But Bush is the dumb, slow responsive one? Please.

As far as the stupidity awards, laughable, just laughable.

Which is it? Is Bush the most intelligent criminal mastermind in history? This is what you would have America believe by touting all these wild conspiracy theories and skewing of the facts to make him appear as a coniving elitist bent on personal wealth and driven by greed and quest for power.

Or is he a dumb, barely able to talk monkey boy? You can't have it both ways.

But then again, I expect the left to have at least two stances on the issue of Bush's intelligence. After all, their candidate has at least two stances on every issue too, and it would not be polite to be different than your savior.

lol, this brings up a point that some newscasters were making after Kerry won the 1st debate.....

I guess since original poster can't name 10 country's currency (maybe he can, shrug), that he shouldn't be talking about the president not being able to either? That goes back to what the commentators were saying. "People like Bush because he's like them, he talks like them, etc etc."

Umm, newsflash!

I expect our president to be superior to some neighborhood bumpkin. I expect our president to know more about foreign matters than the average American. I expect our president to know international matters that most Americans have no clue about. Hell, maybe I hold up the PRESIDENCY OF THE OUR NATION too highly or something? lol

The only thing laughable is the point you just tried to make.

The point was, W, that when a person has an issue weighing heavily on their mind, they are bound to misspeak.

And I wouldn't exactly call Kerry the greenest leaf on the vine. Here's a guy talking about building a coalition (um, news flash, we have one. Even bigger than WWII, in fact), while alienating the allies already in place (Poland, England, more) and missing over 75% of the intelligence committee meetings so vital when striving to know what exactly is going on. But who can blame him? He's trying to convince his waning base that they should vote for a guy that is more liberal then Teddy boy, has changed stance on several key issues, and only makes decisions based on political expediency, rather than representing the people who sent him to Washington in the first place.

You want we should vote for a guy who's best line is 'I'm not Bush'

[edit on 5-10-2004 by everlastingnoitall]

Originally posted by kathaksung
4. He is dumb to react an emergence. He had no reaction to a big attack(When WTC was bombed) for 7 minutes.

I am in no way, shape or form, standing up for George W. Bush. But find me one person who WASNT in some state of shock after watching the planes fly into the WTC. I for one just sat there on my bed watching it for almost half an hour straight.

BTW...They werent Bombed...they were hit with 2 jumbo jets.

[Edited on 5-10-2004 by dreamlandmafia]

A lot of his supporters don't have a high opinion of intellectuals like Clinton or Kerry and feel he is one of them. I don't think he's as stupid as he appears but uses his dumb, straight shooting charm to appeal to this segment.

Others like him because they only care about kicking ass and destroying our enemies. Their basically war mongers who can't argue any point that doesn't involve force. Most of them have never even seen combat either.

This opinion doesn't represent all of his supporters but he definitely hasn't gotten the support of anyone in the intellectual community. His support comes from roughly 48% of this country and 10% of the rest of the world.

He has done nothing but cut taxes and start wars that have gotten us nowhere but made his business ties very rich.

Poland is looking to withdraw its troops as well btw, maybe Kerry knew something we all didn't when he 'forgot about Poland?'

Poland has set a tentative pullout timetable for the end of 2005! Hardly a 'considering pulling them out'.

That's a misrepresentation of the intentions of Poland to use an exit strategy at the end of 05 for making it seem the coalition is crumbling. And nicaragua didn't pull out, they simply did not have the funds to replace the troops after their tour was complete.

In addition, Albania ( a predominately Islamic nation) is adding troops, so where's the crumbling coalition again?

Originally posted by everlastingnoitall
Poland has set a tentative pullout timetable for the end of 2005! Hardly a 'considering pulling them out'.

Well, since the earliest proposal I've heard for pulling US forces out is 4 to 7 years it doesn't seem like we are getting anymore troop support. Poland's force was negligible anyways, this war is essentially being fought by the Americans with a healthy contingent of the British.

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How the candidates look or speak is infinitely less important than what they do.

Bush has gone to war in Iraq.
NO WMDs.
NO Al-Qaeda connection.
NOT enought troops on the ground.
NOT getting FBI tapes translated.

IS creating a whole new generation of terrorists in Iraq.
Has created a sanctuary for terrorists in Iraq.
Has alienated the entire world, who could have been our allies in the war on terrorism.
Has spent 120 BILLION dollars and counting.

Bush = LOSER.
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The point was to emphasize the 'spin' that the coalition is crumbling right now, and that Poland is considering pulling out, right now, which is verifiably untrue.

And I guess some support the erroneous Kerry position that less than 8000 troops means you are an insignificant partner and not worthy of being included in the coalition.

Poland has been talking about wanting to withdraw its troops ever since Spain announced it would be pulling its troops out of Iraq.

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Exact quote:

A senior adviser to the Polish government confirmed to The Irish Times that Warsaw's decision had been influenced by the Spanish move. "Given the circumstances [in Iraq], we will probably diminish significantly the forces at the end of 2004," said Prof Tadeusz Iwinski, secretary of state for international affairs in the office of the prime minister.

Questioned further by The Irish Times, he said: "It is much easier to send troops in than to withdraw them, but we will probably do it at the end of 2004 or the start of 2005."

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This was from an article posted back in April I believe. Poland has been wanting to pull out. At Bush's request, they have pushed the deadline back further and further. They have now stated that their self-imposed deadline is the end of 2005 to remove ALL of their troops from Iraq. They want to begin to remove them quicker than that, and have been wanting to remove them for at least the past half year.

[edit on 5-10-2004 by W_HAMILTON]

and the article I referenced was posted in the last 24 hours on a Japanese news site called 'Japan Today'.

Nod, but it doesn't disprove my point. Poland has been wanting to pull out. They have been delayed and delayed at the behest of our president. They finally set a definitive deadline so that come that date, there will be NO Polish troops in Iraq. They want to begin to remove them as soon as possible, as they have been wanting to do for the past half year.

You try to make it sound as if Poland is still a very willing participant in the Iraq situation, and it's not. They want to (and have wanted to) diminish their role in Iraq for quite some time now.

[edit on 5-10-2004 by W_HAMILTON]

Jimmy Carter was a genius with an IQ of 176 (everything I can find says he's the only President to officially release a number), he did graduate work in nuclear physics and helped develop the nuclear submarine program. He essentially failed as a President.

Ronald Reagan was an actor that many people during his Presidency didn't consider to be a brilliant man. He became, although some would argue this, a very good President.

Being an intellect does not make one a good President. Although it doesn't hurt.

Originally posted by PistolPete
Jimmy Carter was a genius with an IQ of 176 (everything I can find says he's the only President to officially release a number), he did graduate work in nuclear physics and helped develop the nuclear submarine program.

Wow! I'd be happy to publish my IQ score too if it was that high. Where did Jimmy Carter go to college? What did he get degrees in?

Thundercloud, here's what I found:

Original Source: Jimmy Carter Library
He was educated in the Plains public schools, attended Georgia Southwestern College and the Georgia Institute of Technology, and received a B.S. degree from the United States Naval Academy in 1946. In the Navy he became a submariner, serving in both the Atlantic and Pacific fleets and rising to the rank of lieutenant. Chosen by Admiral Hyman Rickover for the nuclear submarine program, he was assigned to Schenectady, N.Y., where he took graduate work at Union College in reactor technology and nuclear physics, and served as senior officer of the pre-commissioning crew of the Seawolf.

Intelligence above and far beyond most Presidents and he was one and done.

Originally posted by PistolPete
Thundercloud, here's what I found... Intelligence above and far beyond most Presidents and he was one and done.

Wow! That is cool. Well, intelligence alone does not make a good leader; you've got to have heart, vision, and the ability to see things from everyone else's point of view (which, with an IQ of 172, "everyone else" had almost literal meaning to Jimmy Carter )... Jimmy Carter's both a smart and a nice guy, but he was not a good President.

Originally posted by W_HAMILTON
...................... I expect our president to know international matters that most Americans have no clue about. ................

you sure didn't set the bar too far. go ahead ask the average american to name one foriegn currency....you maybe on a stretch, might get the pound but probably not any other....and the sad fact is most would probably be impressed he got the dinar part.