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Originally posted by exponent

Originally posted by thegameisup
At 2:52 notice hoe the demolition worker says "we're getting ready to pull building 6" so this proves that the term 'pull' is used in demolition.

Actually not, they literally pulled Building 6 down with cables. This is the only way that term is used in demolition. Having said that you really shouldn't be posting just videos without significant commentary. Would you care to answer the question I left you above?

It says it in the video above, that 'pull it' means to bring the building down. Anyone with half a brain cell can understand this. But not you it seems.

I can post what I want, I don't post for you, I post for other members, not those that make up lies to support the OS.

No, I will reply to what I feel is relevant to me, sorry if you wasted your own time typing a reply out. I repeat, I a not here for you.

These videos are from the day, people can see what is there and decide for themselves. I'm not here to convince people of anything like you, I'm here to share documented evidence in a verifiable form.

Originally posted by thegameisup
It says it in the video above, that 'pull it' means to bring the building down. Anyone with half a brain cell can understand this. But not you it seems.

Because it's not true. 'Pull' refers to cables, when they are literally pulling the building. This is what every authoritative source has said including the video of them pulling down WTC6.

I can post what I want, I don't post for you, I post for other members, not those that make up lies to support the OS.

No, I will reply to what I feel is relevant to me, sorry if you wasted your own time typing a reply out. I repeat, I a not here for you.

You are required by the rules to participate in threads, rather than posting videos without commentary or context. If you don't want to reply to me then that's fine, it just shows that you can't defend your ideas without accusing people of impropriety.

Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by exponent

 

Where did you get that bit of information from ? The industry standard for bringing down a building is Pull it . I doubt they pulled it down with cables either .

I even posted a video on the previous page with a time marker where the demolition worker uses the term 'pull it' and the OS'ers still deny it! That's up to them, they don't want to see anything that might upset the OS that they worship.

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They had to cut all the columns then pull it over . The fact is that pull the building is a generic description . I can't understand why because it was still just as tall on it's side . I guess they had to cover up for Larry Silverstien s mistake

Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by thegameisup

 

The fact is that pull the building is a generic description .

We just had a huge thread asking for people to post any evidence that this was the case.

Can you link me where you posted the evidence proving this? Or are you just demanding that it's true and we should believe you for some reason?

Originally posted by exponent

Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by thegameisup

 

The fact is that pull the building is a generic description .

We just had a huge thread asking for people to post any evidence that this was the case.

Can you link me where you posted the evidence proving this? Or are you just demanding that it's true and we should believe you for some reason?

Get over yourself dude... www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Fluffaluffagous
This is the first sensible thing I've ever seen you write.

At least you can back what you say with some credible sources for a change.

I always back up what I say with credible sources.

You must be confusing me with someone else.

reply to post by thegameisup


As many people have said, they are pulling WTC6 with cables. They are literally pulling it over. This term doesn't mean 'demolish with explosives'. It means its literal definition, to exert a tension force against an object by means of rope or cable or similar.

Please stop claiming it means something else without providing any evidence of it. You obviously didn't even bother to read my post.

Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
Ironically, the elite corporatist rely on socialist programmes such a taxpayer paid educated workforce to operate their mills.

They're not socialist programs, they are liberal programs. Liberalism is government handouts, socialism is workers common ownership of the means of production. Liberalism is not socialism. Liberals support capitalism with a social safety net, not worker ownership.

"Liberalism is not socialism and never will be", Winston Churchill, Liberal candidate for Dundee Scotland 1908.

reply to post by ANOK


No matter how much we disagree on some topics ANOK. You're pretty spot on in general in this topic. Nice to see.

In demolition, the term 'pull' is also used in relation to pull/pulling a demolition permit.

The term pull it, pull, pulling, are all common words in demolition work.

I've provided a video already, where the ground zero demolition workers said 'pull building 6'

Larry Silverstein said 'pull it' in relation to WTC7, and if you google 'pull a demolition permit' you will find information relating to that.

All roads lead to demoliton, no question, it also looked like a demolition, and there is no evidence to scientifically prove the WTC7 came down by fire, except the notorious, dubious NIST report.

Originally posted by thegameisup
In demolition, the term 'pull' is also used in relation to pull/pulling a demolition permit.

This is reasonable, but a demolition permit just refers to any permit for demolishing anything from a house to a skyscraper. It doesn't imply explosive demolition at all.

I've provided a video already, where the ground zero demolition workers said 'pull building 6'

Exactly, with cables

Larry Silverstein said 'pull it' in relation to WTC7, and if you google 'pull a demolition permit' you will find information relating to that.

Larry said "They made the decision to pull". He said nothing about demolition in any way.

All roads lead to demoliton, no question, it also looked like a demolition, and there is no evidence to scientifically prove the WTC7 came down by fire, except the notorious, dubious NIST report.

There is even less evidence that WTC7 came down by explosive demolition. You have to believe that the building owner would be stupid enough to admit this on TV and the insurance companies stupid enough not to question it. You also have to believe that the FDNY is involved considering they are the people who made this decision apparently.

Do you believe these things?

When you have videos like this below that clearly show explosives going off, and first responders talking in this video about explosions, coupled with all the known recordings of explosions, all roads lead to explosives being used.

So if they can use explosives on the towers, and add all the reports, like NY policeman Craig Bartmer I have already mentioned, and all the foreknowledge, the policeman saying the building is about to explode, and all the WTC7 explosions, with everything else, the evidence is overwhelming.

If people cannot see this, they are too stubborn, or deliberately covering up the truth with lies. The OS is a lie, no question.

You can also hear someone saying on a radio about 'WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION'
WTF would they be saying that for? I'll let you decide.

9/11: WTC Rare Demolitions Explosions Revealed
www.metacafe.com...

If this plays slow for anyone, download Vlan (videolan), which is free, and use an add on or similar to flashgot for mozilla, to rip out the .flv file, then you can play it direct from your computer.

I seriously recommend anyone watch this video, it has some WTC collapse footage that I have never seen, and perhaps many others haven't, it has some good zoom ins where anyone can clearly see explosions. If you are an OS'er and you cannot see the explosions, then you are definitely covering up for the OS.

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Larry said 'pull it'

This can only mean one thing, not them, but "IT"

With or without cables, he pulled WTC7, even many media outlets knew they were going to pull 20+ minutes before it came down. Mayor Giuliani informed them all and they put it out too early, because 3 or 4 people broadcast WTC7 had collapsed, when it was still standing behind them! Foreknowledge, but you support the official government story, so you will never admit the truth.

You can fool yourself, but people can see through the lies.

reply to post by thegameisup

Do you have a press release that was given to the media stating they were going to demo the buildings?
So now the media is all part of the conspiracy?

Originally posted by thegameisup
reply to post by exponent

 

Larry said 'pull it'

This can only mean one thing, not them, but "IT"

With or without cables, he pulled WTC7, even many media outlets knew they were going to pull 20+ minutes before it came down. Mayor Giuliani informed them all and they put it out too early, because 3 or 4 people broadcast WTC7 had collapsed, when it was still standing behind them! Foreknowledge, but you support the official government story, so you will never admit the truth.

You can fool yourself, but people can see through the lies.

Couldn't "the operation" be "it"?

Seriously, think like you've got a brain in your head.

Originally posted by exponent
No matter how much we disagree on some topics ANOK. You're pretty spot on in general in this topic. Nice to see.

Well thank you. Funny thing is I actually went to school for engineering, a two year course in engineering fundamentals, which covered Newtonian physics (in Britain BTW). I didn't go to school for politics, or economics. I am pretty confident that my physics knowledge, when it come to engineering, is also pretty spot on.

Just like liberalism is not socialism, sagging trusses can not pull in columns...

Originally posted by thegameisup
If people cannot see this, they are too stubborn, or deliberately covering up the truth with lies. The OS is a lie, no question.
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If you are an OS'er and you cannot see the explosions, then you are definitely covering up for the OS.

These are hilarious false dichotomies. You don't think people can disagree with you without 'covering up'? That is the mark of the irrational. You must admit that people can disagree with you without being part of some shadowy secret agent group right?

Larry said 'pull it'

This can only mean one thing, not them, but "IT"

Sure, the whole firefighting operation.

With or without cables, he pulled WTC7, even many media outlets knew they were going to pull 20+ minutes before it came down. Mayor Giuliani informed them all and they put it out too early, because 3 or 4 people broadcast WTC7 had collapsed

Actually the firefighters informed them 3 hours beforehand, not 20 minutes. Collapse zones were being set up as early as 2pm. That's because they had decided that WTC7 was unsalvageable and may collapse. That's why "They made the decision to pull".

Larry clearly says that it was not him making the decision, therefore accusing him of being complicit in a demolition is nonsensical. Why would he admit it on TV and why would the insurance companies ignore it?

This question deserves an answer, but you've completely skipped over it several times.

Originally posted by ANOK
Well thank you. Funny thing is I actually went to school for engineering, a two year course in engineering fundamentals, which covered Newtonian physics (in Britain BTW). I didn't go to school for politics, or economics. I am pretty confident that my physics knowledge, when it come to engineering, is also pretty spot on.

NVQ? I don't doubt you have some engineering knowledge, but you make some pretty serious mistakes we can discuss in another thread. Perhaps you could contribute to my 'five biggest issues' thread and ensure that sagging trusses make it into the final list.

Just like liberalism is not socialism, sagging trusses can not pull in columns...

*Polite disagreement*

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Asked about fires

Here are video clips showing the fires from various angles

Note how the smoke pushing out of multiple floors from south face

www.911myths.com...

As for the insane theory that somehow the fact that Salomon Smith Barney was involved....

You do realize that Salomon Brothers-Smith Barney were the principal tenants leading to building often
being called SALOMON BROTHERS BUILDING

In November 1988, Salomon Brothers withdrew from plans to build a large new complex at Columbus Circle in Midtown and agreed to a 20-year lease for the top 19 floors of 7 World Trade Center. The building was extensively renovated in 1989 to accommodate the needs of Salomon Brothers. This led to the alternative naming of the building as the Salomon Brothers building.