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Isaiah 29:6 the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.
Originally posted by akushla99
It should at some point become apparent that, there appears to be 'gods' which display human-like qualities in the texts of religious establishments from around the globe. This is not coincidental. Is the CEO responsible for the free will results of his/her deputised representatives?
If a divine being created every living thing with a rule...a rule that would dictate the results of circumstances in a realm he/she created...but took that rule away...they would be a dictatorial 'god'...
The rule exists, god is not dictatorial (despite quoted texts in holy books, referring to deputised representatives in charge of this sector), they are/were also allowed to exercise this free will according to its procedural freedom...vanity and self-importance are not merely human qualities, but are dependant on the 'biscuit' being offered...free will operates to lovingly allow the choice (otherwise, dictatorship) weigh the pro's and con's (if at all) and choose according to a free will rule...
Any passages chosen to refute an idea based around one operational god, and discounting angelic beings and any other personages, runs the risk of simplifying the gamut of created existence and how a simple choice can affect the workings of true freedom...
Yes, fire and brimstone...we'd all get a bit frustrated that a project we were 'in charge of' was not going how we thought it should, and give in to base emotions, including threats...
akushla
Originally posted by TheFogHorn
Originally posted by akushla99
It should at some point become apparent that, there appears to be 'gods' which display human-like qualities in the texts of religious establishments from around the globe. This is not coincidental. Is the CEO responsible for the free will results of his/her deputised representatives?
If a divine being created every living thing with a rule...a rule that would dictate the results of circumstances in a realm he/she created...but took that rule away...they would be a dictatorial 'god'...
The rule exists, god is not dictatorial (despite quoted texts in holy books, referring to deputised representatives in charge of this sector), they are/were also allowed to exercise this free will according to its procedural freedom...vanity and self-importance are not merely human qualities, but are dependant on the 'biscuit' being offered...free will operates to lovingly allow the choice (otherwise, dictatorship) weigh the pro's and con's (if at all) and choose according to a free will rule...
Any passages chosen to refute an idea based around one operational god, and discounting angelic beings and any other personages, runs the risk of simplifying the gamut of created existence and how a simple choice can affect the workings of true freedom...
Yes, fire and brimstone...we'd all get a bit frustrated that a project we were 'in charge of' was not going how we thought it should, and give in to base emotions, including threats...
akushla
Please keep waffle to a minimum in my thread.
Originally posted by TheFogHorn
I bet you're reading this Anoncoholic you little fibber!
Here's a few more for you to go through and explain away.
Isaiah 30:27 See, the Name of the LORD comes from afar, with burning anger and dense clouds of smoke; his lips are full of wrath, and his tongue is a consuming fire.
Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.
Deuteronomy 4:11 You came near and stood at the foot of the mountain while it blazed with fire to the very heavens, with black clouds and deep darkness.
Deuteronomy 5:4 The LORD spoke to you face to face out of the fire on the mountain.
Deuteronomy 33:2 He said: "The LORD came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones from the south, from his mountain slopes.
Isaiah 10:17 The Light of Israel will become a fire, their Holy One a flame; in a single day it will burn and consume his thorns and his briers.
Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are terrified; trembling grips the godless: "Who of us can dwell with the consuming fire? Who of us can dwell with everlasting burning?"
Isaiah 66:15 See, the LORD is coming with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind; he will bring down his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
Jeremiah 4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, circumcise your hearts, you men of Judah and people of
Jerusalem, or my wrath will break out and burn like fire because of the evil you have done--burn with no one to quench it.
Ezekiel 22:31 So I will pour out my wrath on them and consume them with my fiery anger, bringing down on their own heads all they have done, declares the Sovereign LORD."
Daniel 7:10 A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened.
Lamentations 4:11 The LORD has given full vent to his wrath; he has poured out his fierce anger. He kindled a fire in Zion that consumed her foundations.
Ezekiel 7:8 I am about to pour out my wrath on you and spend my anger against you; I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.
Exodus 3:12 And God said, "I will be with you. And this will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain."
Isaiah 29:6 the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.
Revelation 11:19 Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm.
Exodus 19:16 On the morning of the third day there was thunder and lightning, with a thick cloud over the mountain, and a very loud trumpet blast. Everyone in the camp trembled.
2 Samuel 22:10 He parted the heavens and came down; dark clouds were under his feet.
Psalm 104:3 and lays the beams of his upper chambers on their waters. He makes the clouds his chariot and rides on the wings of the wind.
Jeremiah 4:13 Look! He advances like the clouds, his chariots come like a whirlwind, his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us! We are ruined!
1 Timothy 6:16 The blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords: who only hath immortality, dwelling in light unapproachable; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power eternal. Amen"
Deuteronomy 4:32-43 "For ask now of the days that are past ... whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing is? ... Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live? Or hath God assayed to go and take him a nation from the midst of another nation, by trials , by signs, and by wonders ... according to all that the LORD your God did for you in Egypt before your eyes?"
Exodus 19:3 And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain 9 And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. 12 And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death. 13 there shall not a hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live. 16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, Rev. 4.5 and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled. 18 And mount Si'nai was altogether on a
Originally posted by TheFogHorn
Waffle - not waffle?
akushla
Originally posted by TheFogHorn
Ezekiel 22:31 "So I will pour out my wrath on them and consume them with my fiery anger, bringing down on their own heads all they have done, declares the Sovereign LORD."
edit on 15-6-2012 by TheFogHorn because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheFogHorn
reply to post by LesMisanthrope
Please re-read the opening post for clear instructions on how to approach this little exercise from a new perspective....and then come back with just one word.