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Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time – 1 John 2:18
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. - 1 Thessalonians 5:2
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. - Matthew 24:36
37 You, O king, are a king of kings. For the God of heaven has given you a kingdom, power, strength, and glory; 38 and wherever the children of men dwell, or the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all—you are this head of gold. 39 But after you shall arise another kingdom inferior to yours; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth. 40 And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces and shatters everything; and like iron that crushes, that kingdom will break in pieces and crush all the others. - Daniel 2
23 “Thus he said:‘The fourth beast shall be A fourth kingdom on earth, Which shall be different from all other kingdoms, And shall devour the whole earth,Trample it and break it in pieces - Daneil 7
He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
Shall persecute[d] the saints of the Most High,
And shall intend to change times and law.
Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time. (1260 years)
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. - Luke 21:24
Originally posted by defcon5
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
Originally posted by burntheships
Originally posted by defcon5
So the big question is does the bible actually say it has to be implanted, or is that just one interpretation of that verse.
I think a tattoo, even an invisible one such as the one by SOMARK will qualify.
They are passive, and bio compatible now. No harm, no foul to the human
except to say that if its the Mark of The Beast, save your money lose your soul.
....Both the US and Rome, either intentionally or not, have worked to “hide” their places in prophecy as part of this deception.
Rome; the City on Seven Hills; The U.S. (The MIC = Roman Army / NWO Military)
They did it intentionally, carefully engineered over the last 50 years.
You can bet that the “mark” will be something that is sneakily brought in, and appears harmless, while most Christian Conservatives are looking for this future time line
Yes, exactly why an invisible tattoo with RFID capability could be easily advanced as its
not even on the horizon of most "Christians" thinking. Thats not to say that the sheep are
bad, just led astray. (IMHO at the moment and tech advances quick so keep an eye on that)
What better way to trap all the poser (Pharisee) Christians who are not really true Christians, but are more worried about their worldly status, money, and safety. Christians who are looking to the government and the world to provide for them things that, as Christians, they are supposed to be dependent on God for.
Satan is cunning, and he desires to be as the most high God.
To live in this world, and not be of this world is a challenge. To most aware they
knowthis world is temporal yet....as the Bible recounts, Jesus himself did encounter
temptationto succomb to this world and its rulers...Christians will also.....
kingjbible.com...
Whether they/we fall to the lie that this world is all there is, or the lie that we must
save this life, each of us individually will be held accountable. The false
shepherds will be held acountable, the sheep will be slaugtered, led astray.
Does that make sense? I know its a difficult concept to put into words sometimes
Yes, I try to fit that together with the current governmental scheme, that Rome (the city on Seven Hills): the religious capitol (Pharisees) and London ( the Corporation) (Babylon ) and Washington D.C (the Roman Army) could comprise an unholy allince.
Things are shaping up.
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Nowhere in the bible does it say that there will be a rebuilt temple, again its an assumption by modern futurist writers based on this verse of Daniel:
Originally posted by stupid girl
I think we're pretty much on the same page. I do not believe the mark will be "forced", per se, upon anyone. I believe that it will be a choice between getting the mark, or being executed.
I think this is how most of the martyrdom will be accomplished. It will be mass executions of those who refuse to honor and pay homage the NWO. We will be seen as traitors, zealots, crazy religious freaks who are deluded in their nonsensical, fairytale beliefs, incapable of "evolving" to the next stage of "spiritual enlightenment", therefore of not enough worth to be included in the new order of the future. The only value we will have, is the value of being exterminated so the world can "move on". In other words, it will be a Christian holocaust and those doing the persecuting will fully believe in what they are doing, just like the Nazi party did in WW2.
Right now we are still primarily mocked and derided, but I think we have all noticed that the animosity and disgust has reached a palpable level. And we all know that it will only be downhill from this point on. Most people I know have no idea that there are people in the world that hate Christians they way I have experienced on ATS. They are still in their own little world, oblivious to the brewing storm on the horizon. Maybe it's because I am in the Southern US, I know it's different here than most other places. I would have never dreamed that it was as bad as it is, if it were not for ATS. I guess in a way, that's a good thing because it won't be such a shock later.
Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve
Pffffff, people come-on, this topic is full of false theory's about the mark. It can't be somekind of biometric ID card because you still can sell and buy stuff without one.
Most people are forgetting that without the mark, you can't buy or sell anymore, so what is the most obvious thing to be the mark? It is just simple and plain money, it is so incredible easy....
Do I actually belive this? No, I think that christianity and christians are the 2 biggest jokes ever....
Originally posted by WhoKnows100
Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve
Pffffff, people come-on, this topic is full of false theory's about the mark. It can't be somekind of biometric ID card because you still can sell and buy stuff without one.
Most people are forgetting that without the mark, you can't buy or sell anymore, so what is the most obvious thing to be the mark? It is just simple and plain money, it is so incredible easy....
Do I actually belive this? No, I think that christianity and christians are the 2 biggest jokes ever....
So I guess that there is a literal beast with seven heads and 10 horns because "buying and selling" refers to money in your opinion?
"Buy the truth and do not sell it; get wisdom, discipline and understanding." Proverbs 23:23
"Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost." Isaiah 55:1
It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with Our Father who is Truth.
“You shall not make for yourself an idol”
Originally posted by defcon5
Conservative Christians (modern Pharisees) will never allow their money to be taken away by anything that is “implantable”, be it a tattoo or a chip.
What better way to trap all the poser (Pharisee) Christians who are not really true Christians, but are more worried about their worldly status, money, and safety.
18) Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
I'm aware of this guy and the supposed discovery, but I'm not buying his story. There is a reason why God allowed the ark to be removed from history, and that reason is that the death of Christ eliminates the need for any future sacrifices. Even if the Ark is where he claims it is, even if its under the Crucifixion location, there is no reason why God would allow it to be found and disturbed again. All it would do it further incite the Jewish people to insult him by taking up animal sacrifice again
Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve
You are now quoting from 2 books of the old testament (Torah) wich has nothing to do with christianity, the NT or revelations. I don't get this?
Besides I really believe that the NT is fakery which has been set-up by the ancient romans and greeks for world domination and to get the Jewish people on their side by setting up a false messiah. Also I think that Christianity is very antisemitic.
edit on 16-6-2012 by yougetwhatyoudeserve because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by burntheships
Rome; the City on Seven Hills; The U.S. (The MIC = Roman Army / NWO Military)
The dragon[a] stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads – Revelation 13
And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. - Revelation 17
when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. - Revelation 17
Originally posted by burntheships
They did it intentionally, carefully engineered over the last 50 years.
Originally posted by burntheships
Yes, exactly why an invisible tattoo with RFID capability could be easily advanced as its
not even on the horizon of most "Christians" thinking.
Sheriff’s Dept. Confirms Real ID Drivers Licenses Now Part Of Facial Recognition System
DUNEDIN, FLORIDA – The Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office confirmed this week that images taken from Florida drivers’ licenses have now been integrated into a multi-jurisdictional facial recognition database used by law enforcement agencies throughout Florida.
FL Statute 332.15
(2) Upon the failure of any person to display a driver’s license as required by subsection (1), the law enforcement officer or authorized representative of the department stopping the person shall require the person to imprint his or her fingerprints upon any citation issued by the officer or authorized representative, or the officer or authorized representative shall collect the fingerprints electronically.