WorldStarHipHop: Brainwashing Black America

I had never heard of this site until a few months ago when I was hanging out at my black friend's house. She was sitting at her computer watching these types of videos one after another, laughing hysterically at each one. I'm like, "What are you watching?" She's says, still laughing, "Just some ghetto ass videos." "What site is that?" "It's called WorldStarHipHop. Ever heard of it?" "No. I'm white."

I proceeded to watch several videos with her. Some are a little funny. Most are just ignorant violence.

"You don't think that's funny?!"
"Well, it's just a guy hitting a girl in the face for 5 minutes."
"I know, it's funny!"

She's still a cool person and my friend, but I can't fathom why anyone would watch this stuff. Given that the owner is "government informant" makes me believe that the conspiracy suspicions are true. Keep the youth stupid and ignorant and there will be fewer intelligent adults to make positive change in the future.

reply to post by RedGoneWILD


*snip* animals who will be the downfall of society. Oh you say it's happened already. In some areas yes it has !

reply to post by mythos


well, you make some fine points, and yes i do believe this has a lot to do with music and the hip-hop lifestyle. and while this thread isn't quite about music, it has a lot to do with it.

As you all know, the quality of popular music has turned into a *snip* of crap being crammed into our ears. Why is such music popular? Well, because people pay for you to hear it. And then the masses are like "well, this is popular, so i guess it must be cool", regardless of quality or "energy" put into the music. Sort of the TRL mindset, if you must. Killing, sex, violence, and most of all...money. These concepts are drilled into our heads repeatedly, whether we want to hear it or not, but it appeals to this "animalistic" side of people that everyone has within them, you know when you can't help but read the headlines of gossip journalism, when you're waiting in line to get your groceries bagged. I'm not going to go into why people love sex and violence, but to put it simply, there are much more important matters at hand that the "mainstream" wants us to ignore. And it's so, so easy to distract us, with our ADD-themed news broadcasts that make it hip and cool to be "informed" about something for a month(coughkony2012cough), until the next juicy story comes out. Nuclear radiation? Tsunami? That was like, so last week.

So yeah, i agree about the website being a symptom, as opposed to "the disease", and yes dividing of racial cultures is very prevalent and it makes me wonder when the human race is going to realize we're all just humans, despite cultural differences.

And on a side note, i want to retell an anecdote from my past that to me, was really kind of funny. It may be offensive that i thought it was funny, but it's just one of those things that i couldn't help but laugh...

It was middle school, lunch time, hectic as usual. We had a table of some really quirky and odd gentlemen, to say the least. We had this one friend, Will, who was really rather frail and kind of had bad luck you might say. Now during the time, it was really popular to hold out your hand over someones head, and move it up and down, as in gesturing that you were receiving a BJ , and while performing such a ritual, you would say "oh *snip*! oh *snip*". It became such a problem that during the peak of this madness, our guidance counselor got on the auditorium stage while everyone was eating and addressed the entire school on the microphone that "he knows what it means", doing the gesture to a fellow officers head (maybe without realizing it? lol). This is when you might say the hip-hop industry was progressing into it's nastiest phase, a time now where I wouldn't even describe it as "hip-hop" anymore...I don't even know what the *snip* genre should be labeled, nor be *snip* to pay attention to what's popular any more, but that's not here and there. Back to the story.

So we were sitting, and i don't know what happened, but all the sudden Will was on the ground. A group of kids who were embracing the worldstylehiphop lifestyle (before the website existed) huddled around him, and we're performing the notorious 'oh expletive' gesture over his head, and afterwards they took his shoes and ran away laughing. Will was crying, on the lunchroom floor, with no shoes on. I think our table was really the only one who took notice. The kid was fine, and i'm pretty sure he got his shoes back. Call me sadist, but to this day i still think back on that incident with a smile.

This behavior has nothing to do with race, but it does have everything to do with culture, status, etc.

For example white kids had no problems beating up bums and posting it on the net, and this really isn't much different than that.

And how can you blame them?
Any channel on TV you turn it to...violence.
Check out the news? Oh we are invading and bombing other nations.
Cops even use violence to get their way.

Everywhere you look, our society/culture teaches that violence solves your problems.

Who is really to blame here?

Originally posted by LastProphet527
reply to post by RedGoneWILD

 

When I look at these videos, they remind me of the American soldiers that raped and killed innocent families for no reason ,it also reminded me how the USA are manipulating these Muslim countries into anarchy ,and how they show all this on national TV every day.In front of a nation wide audience.

I wonder which is worst, WorldStarHipHop or fox news?

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edit on 13-6-2012 by LastProphet527 because: (no reason given)

Fox News is a propaganda outlet for the sole benefit of the billionaire crowd, and they don't care if the benefit would mean WW3. They would help to push this nation and the world toward such a cataclysm if it meant making a few extra defense dollars, oh and a bank bailout too that would come after it, but throw grandma under the bus. Her health care costs take money away from the DoD and tax breaks for those needy billionaires.

Social engineering at its finest.

These are some of the few Hip Hop artists I have respect for....

Vinnie Paz - End of Days
Chris Geo - Run This Town
Immortal Technique - 4th Branch

reply to post by RealSpoke


I'll be nice and pretend like I don't know how you could so poorly misinterpret what I wrote, so I can better explain my post to you...

I never mentioned ebonics or rap music. I was speaking only about the behavior seen in the videos - the desire to act out, and to promote, violent and boisterous behavior. A behavior that is not limited to ghetto residents, as so many would have us believe.
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Please make sure that you thoroughly understand the topic, and my future posts, before you attempt to paraphrase me. Thanks.

reply to post by capod2t

Hip Hop has been hijacked.

Indeed it has. And no matter how many people sit here and rant and rave about how "this ISN'T the hip hop culture," I'm afraid this is exactly what it has become.

I grew up listening to hip hop, and I loved it. Today's hip hop is a far cry from what it used to be. Find me some mainstream hip hop tunes that aren't centered around explicit sex acts, money, or getting loaded or drunk.. In fact, more recently, it's becoming difficult to even find a hip hop tune that has actual MUSIC in it. Many of them have a simple beat with little more than one word chanting. It's mindless b.s. "Cake, cake, cake, cake, cake," "faded, faded, faded, faded." Look no further than the meaning of the words in those two songs alone and you'll see what I mean.

Either the artists today are being manipulated into this crap by the industry or they have just sold themselves out because they believe their own wealth is more important than any personal responsibility they have to their young audiences whom they know are gonna hang on their every word.

The website in question is disgusting....just as disgusting as the music itself has become. No, it's not about the black community...it's about the ghetto community, but you are being naive if you think that the black community as a whole isn't gonna suffer as a result of this.

Here in America, people are free to say and do whatever they want on the web and on the radio without restraint, right? We don't have to take personal responsibility for what influence it may have on young people or the rest of the community because it's all in the name of art and the First Amendment, RIGHT?

"So what we get drunk...so what we don't sleep....we're just having fun....we don't care who sees."

reply to post by RedGoneWILD


Really? it's just brainwashing black america?
wouldn't it brainwashing the minds of those who view the site for it's content?
if not what about the epicfail site youtube or any other site that gets millions of views do to the violent nature or stupidity of the person doing some dumb stuff they seen on their media box?

Dont make it black or white, it's to easy to attract negative energy that way and then people cant make a valid point. No one ever seems to want to point the finger at the media box for some reason, but if the NEWS feels fit they will show you exactly what site "with a link" has some off the wall clip that made it to the News because they thought it was too crazy or outrageous.
Yeah they'll show that b.s on the AM midday and PM news acting like they selling a story knowing that kids are listening in because parent tunes in to the am news before parent go's off to work and kid goes off to school that has #ty internet filters, then more outrageous content is flooding young minds.

We are all equally eff'ed up at the end of the day
and my fellow humans here in america just dont seem to know better no matter what color their skin is presenting. c'mon we are still dealing with racism and people think Jessie Jackson is the solution every time someone wants extra attention and speaks aloud words that they cant say in a crowd full of blacks. Me personally, I didn't know who Don Imus was until the news told me for over a week what he was saying about the women that share my same skin color and hair. I thought it was funny, i still think it's funny, yeah it was #ed up and wrong, but if it would of been Don Cornelius (R.I.P) saying "them nappy headed bitches go hard" everyone would of brushed it off.

fair to say?

All in all though, I understand your trying to help the black community by posting these videos, but at the end of the day EVERY COLOR is either viewing or starring in videos like these the ync site proves that humans are just brutal. Humans Not Races.

Nice Post "for the most part"

reply to post by littlefinch


thanks for the well thought out response. many fine points you raise as well, and it seems we're in concurrence on quite a few notions.

such gratuitous lewdness splattered throughout our mass media indeed seems like little more than a distraction tactic. (btw "distraction tactic" is a nifty band name. i'm gonna put it in my pocket )

the most of the rest of the poop to be found in media is brainwashing (or brain-rewiring)... right down to the quick edits you mention. i was a video editing major in college, and we were warned that too many 'quick cuts' can induce seizures.

nowadays, i can't even tell what's going on, onscreen. it all moves too fast, with far too much info. i know i sound like a curmudgeon, but that stuff scrambles my mind. i don't know how people can keep up with it.

the Glowing Screens we spend an exorbitant amount of time gaping at is certainly altering our brainwaves... and yet we've yet to do a serious study of its effects. but "don't do drugs, kids."

alas, we live in a strange age.



as for your story... i admit it. i laughed aloud when the principal (unwittingly?) performed the gesture with some other member of the faculty. that is hilarious. what must have been going through that other guys head at the time? "oh no... not again?!?!"

the table i sat with during lunch back in the day played a similar game involving escalating shouts of a rather inappropriate (albeit, scientific) part of the anatomy. it got ridiculous. i've since matured (somewhat).

i hope Will has not had to spend too many hours in therapy processing his shoe-swiping lunchroom incident. bare socks on the lunch-room floor alone would traumatize me, let alone the ransacking he got.


~cheers


PS: don't do drugs, kids.

This is one of the most IMPORTANT topics needing attention in NORTH AMERICA. Blacks and all the *snip* thinking they are a different "BADDER" species then the rest of mankind.. and this brainwash is being fed to the black societies of North America every second of the every day.. for decades now. This is terrorism on the mind in my eyes.. and needs SERIOUS attention from American-authorities.

The rapping, hiphop, clothes, street-status/rep, being the baddest/toughest, this "cool" mentality, movies, tv shows, the internet .... the list goes on! All these things are tools in brainwashing the blck society, which has a big influence on the whites as I have witnessed myself throughout my life. American-Black culture is so over-advertised, it is having a HUGE increase of growth here in Canada as well. At 20 years of age.. I've seen the influence BOOM, trust me.. its sick and lost.

Whats worse in my eyes as a white-Canadian; MANY blacks feel they are a superior-race over the whites and the rest of the World, and they are the TRUE rascists of modern society. Call me what you want, and say all the crap you want.. its more then true, its self-destructing the black society. Authorities need to TRULY help out this "image" that is on-going for the black society. HIPHOP IS SO OLD SCHOOOL AND CRAPP ANYMORE.... Same *snip* different "song", and its lyrically sickening to listen too.

Being vibrational and emotional beings - humans. It is so easy to influence our states of being and keep us "stuck" in a specific vibrational rate (Some will understand what I'm talking about here..). This Vibration is very low for the human being and will keep them NUMB. And if you truly look at the image of the modern-american-black-society.. those who fit the pool, are pretty numb with all this brainwashing in their reality and the confusion they have in life.

Another BIG problem the black-soeciety of America faces is drugs on the street.. Heroin, meth, crack etc.. It's pretty *snip* up to witness with your own eyes, especially when its shown on Tv

As an awakening being; I have a feeling or sense that some hidden precense wants the blacks of America to suffer.. this might be far out there.. but simular to the Holocaust on the Jews, but instead of death.. this is brainwash, and slowly killing the spirit of Blacks in America.

To add one more thing; this whole "whites are racist" thing is just feeding the fire of the black society.. I dont understand why they (blacks) feel whites are so against them and racist when in REALITY the majority of racists anymore are the blacks, and they HATE whites. Its sick

America needs a government to play janitor and clean up all the messes they have made in thier society. Canada being the neighboor as wel as being VERY influenced by American culture.. needs to start doing the same. North America has gotten so *snip* up since the last WWar which most people now dont remember or have only heard about.. those in power know what they are doing with their countries and its evident when MASSES of races are falling into numbness and ignorance...

For those thinking I'm against blacks... I'm a "racist" and I'm singling out the black community of America.. just shut up -_- So tired of that crap. I am simply responding to a thread concerning this topic which needs attention, and giving a piece of my mind. I have black friends, I use to be hiphop/rap listener daily etc .. but I woke up from that mess and realized how brainwashed I was becoming (thank god

reply to post by mythos

nowadays, i can't even tell what's going on, onscreen. it all moves too fast, with far too much info. i know i sound like a curmudgeon, but that stuff scrambles my mind. i don't know how people can keep up with it.

Amen to that.

*Token black chick's opinion (just a needless preface... )

Well, I remember growing up with a bit of a different perspective on life as a military brat that had lived in Korea, Japan, Belgium, Germany, Denmark and the UK before the age of 12. It was quite a load of culture shock for me to assimilate back to my native USA from dad's last duty station to a rather rowdy high school in New Jersey where the kids quite honestly, acted like the beings portrayed in many of these clips. Never the less, it's is useful to remember that most young people emulate what they are immersed in. Naturally, if they see these behaviors in their neighborhoods, watch it on their TV (hello BET), take it in on their favorite websites, have "heroes" they wish to be like that act in such ways and if the parents aren't riding their rears to straighten up and fly right...then this will be your result unless the individual is truly of sound natural character, and yes, there are good people that come up in the 'hood' despite all the poison.

It seemed strange to me that very few of my new peers spoke a second language when I attended school in NJ, but everyone was obsessed back then with wearing high priced clothing and "gear" to look like the characters on rap videos. Being dressed like a hip hop star truly was an obsession with most of the black kids back in my US high school days, and I note, it is even worse now days. In Belgium, a few of the kids were obsessed with Cindi Lauper, Michael Jackson, Vanessa Paradis, and Ace of Bass, but there was no belittling anyone who chose not to dress in certain ways or act certain ways. School was to learn, and that was that. That's the attitude I grew up with. Young black kids are pressured to dress this way and most are made fun of if they don't and are relinquished to "misfit" status unless they are in other peer groups. Learning takes the backseat. I fit right in with the nerds on the chess team and science club, so I was good to go, but there is a lot of pressure on these kids who usually are in bad straits to begin with. Who can really afford to dress their kids in the popular clothing? Usually the dope dealing parents who dress that way themselves or the welfare scammers who work decent paying jobs as GS-10's or higher but still claim assistance checks so Jr. can rock $200 Nikes to school and act like a fool at the expense of his peers. Sorry for calling it out like I saw it.

I called out Hip Hop "culture" for what it was in a discussion we had in history class once, and why oh why did I have to do that. There I was, the "weirdo", the marginalized black nerd who dared declare that Hip Hop was promoting poison to the minds of youth, especially black youth. It's really see through when you grow up elsewhere and come into a full dose of it. They got so upset with my opinion. They tried to over-talk my points, say "Well, it's just music." No, it's not. It's a dress code, an attitude, a mind screw, and a cripple to decency. All they generally talk about are hoes, clothes, money and illegal acts to get the latter. I do enjoy decent hip hop, J-hop, trip-hop, generally beats by artists like Fat Jon and Nujabes, and I want to be clear that I'm mainly disparaging the trash put out by the mainstream "artists" Lil' Wayne, Jay Z, Kanye, and etc. Of course it's part of a conspiracy to weaken the society as a whole, in my opinion. This garbage should be relegated to underground with it's shameful messages, but it's not. And why is that? One could argue that it's expression of the artist, reflection of the society, etc...but when kids are emulating this crap, the line should be drawn somewhere. And no, I'm not religious or anything like that. LOL.

I think the worst ‘society’ the world has ever witnessed is being brewed as we speak. People are becoming less spiritual, and more materialistic. The language is being attacked because it is the basic framework for critical thinking. Most people should have logical fallacies memorized, but can barley even understand the most basic fallacy, ad hominem. How in the world is the country going to be a constitutional republic, let alone a democracy?

To be honest, I’ve seen far better fights in grade school… Pathetic. Wish I was the kid with the ridiculous shoes so I could have beat the piss out of them all!

Everywhere you look, our society/culture teaches that violence solves your problems.

reply to post by muzzleflash



You cannot allow your kids to listen to negative music, play violent video games, and watch violent movies for hours every day and expect it not to have a negative impact on them. The fact that many people do this, and we expect kids to act better, goes to show how out of touch we are as a society.

reply to post by HoppedUp

I called out Hip Hop "culture" for what it was in a discussion we had in history class once, and why oh why did I have to do that. There I was, the "weirdo", the marginalized black nerd who dared declare that Hip Hop was promoting poison to the minds of youth, especially black youth. It's really see through when you grow up elsewhere and come into a full dose of it. They got so upset with my opinion. They tried to over-talk my points, say "Well, it's just music." No, it's not

Well, "token black girl," I am really glad you posted your comment.

Furthermore, my hat is off to you for what you did in class that day. That took guts. How long are we gonna keep making excuses for this stuff by saying, "Well, it's just music?" Every human being alive is quite aware of how influential music can be on one's life. It's one of the most influential things there is!

"Just music?"

Are people really that stupid?

I think they are.

reply to post by LoveisanArt


while your response is potent and to the point, i must say, it seems as though you are clumping a particularly ugly side of a demographic (one that is being force-fed to us, as you say), and confusing it with the actual demographic. in other words, all the sh!t you see on the media... is just that. sh!t they want YOU to see... to get you all riled up. which it seems to have worked.

a soul is a soul is a soul. your avatar name implies as such. within every single person, in any demographic there is a capacity for Love and Art. anything we see otherwise is the bi-product of brainwashing; either on us, or on the effected "demographic". usually both.

perhaps you should delve a little deeper into cultural studies, especially of the African-American bent. there is A LOT more going on, on so many levels, than the reductionist "My Culture is Better Than Yours" notion the Media is conveying. by believing that, you seem to be falling prey to the very thing you are (rightfully) up in arms against.

"They" whoever "they" may be... want to keep us divided (as you say) and "They" are using any means necessary to do so... including Brainwashing & Discordant frequencies (as you also say).

as Public Enemy says: "Don't Believe the Hype!!"

Love is an Art. Art is a Love... etc etc. i think i'll spend the day contemplating those phrases.

~cheers.

Why do you feel the need to point out what color the people in the video are?
That is doing just as much damage as the website is.
Until we learn to look past the color of people's skin, we will never be able to confront our true enemy.
This has NOTHING whatsoever to do with "Blacks" or "the black community".
This is not a "black problem".
This is a human problem which need humane answers.

You are not helping the cause by repeatedly pointing out the skin color of those involved.

Believe it or don't.
I'm calling it like I see it.

reply to post by RealSpoke


I agree 100%, It is negative material, but ignoring it or even not knowing of it makes nothing better. Thanks for bringing to my attention...

Originally posted by NightGypsy

Everywhere you look, our society/culture teaches that violence solves your problems.

reply to post by muzzleflash

 

You cannot allow your kids to listen to negative music, play violent video games, and watch violent movies for hours every day and expect it not to have a negative impact on them. The fact that many people do this, and we expect kids to act better, goes to show how out of touch we are as a society.

edit on 13-6-2012 by NightGypsy because: (no reason given)

You cannot blame a depiction of reality or fiction for the actions of a person.

You and I have both been exposed to a sea of violent material since birth, who hasn't?
And have you gone around and treated others violently as a result? Only each of us can answer this ourselves.

I think context is what it's all about. If I show you video from WW2, but explain the complexities of the material and be open and frank about the brutal nature of it all, than it can be extremely beneficial towards educating others about violence and why we must be keen to avoid it at all costs, and only use it as a last resort to survive aggression.

All people have the right to learn self defense knowledge as well, and to train, exercise, or practice. Sharing of this information is also a legitimate anti-violence precaution.

Any "tool" itself is not evil, nor does it invite evil more so than others.
Is a fork evil? When you stab someone with it, if correctly placed, it can cause a fatality in one shot.
The fork isn't evil it is in our heart where evil derives from.

Knowledge and information when propagated effectively can serve as a counter to this chaotic reality, as it will allow the innocent to redirect the force of the unlawful aggressors back onto themselves, which is right and just.

As a parent, the goal is to expose the child gradually to all information that exists, present it factually, then explain why it is wrong or how it harms other individuals. This is proper education and preventive action, giving the child the knowledge/tools necessary to understand something's depth and severity.

Censorship is extremely undesirable as it leads to the child's ignorance and susceptibility to making the same old mistakes of the past. That is why they always say "discretion advised". That means we review the material in depth prior to exposure with children, and attempt to formulate reasoning designed to empower them. I prefer incremental approach but what degree one takes is their prerogative.