Blocks from Giza pyramid, found to be manmade

reply to post by LUXUS


I have thought the molding was the way ever since I read a paper about a find in south america. It said the ancient locals watched birds use a certain plant to dig into the side of a stone cliff. The plant juice would actually make the stone soft and maliable before the stone hardened back up after it dried out. This would really explain the places in south america with the molded looking blocks that every one says "you can't get a razor through the spaces between."

It might just be me but i don't really see what they claim to have proven?
i mean all they are saying is that they have created a block using techniques that they believe were used in those days, using the material or bits that again they believe were used, they don't explain how the blocks were lifted to the point high above ground level, they don't say how if Egypt does it did that mean that someone on another continent knew the same thing or heard about it (Yes i know there wasn't much travel between continents) i mean i really am stumped at the point of the video or even the link. i mean there's nothing there that explains anything other than how they believe the blocks were built.

Sorry but i am a not the smartest guy in the room or for that matter this website but i cannot understand what he is trying to do or say. maybe if i buy the book it will say something about how the rest of the world built pyramids or something more important as to prove his theory. as to whether aliens built them or not, isn't really something that i care about, all though i do believe that something must have been going with pyramids of all sorts popping up all over the world. its just i cannot understand why people on here are now saying BUT THE ALIENS DID IT, or THE ALIENS DIDN'T DO IT.
This man has proven nothing other than how to build a block according to what he sees as the same way that they originally did it. but again maybe i'm that simple, because i for the love of me do not understand the point of this video or even experiment maybe someone can dumb it down for me. (If you do, think of me as a infant.)
Otherwise my theory to the pyramids being built with the influence of something or someone still stands.

reply to post by LUXUS


Hmmm...that doesn't speak too well about our architects and technology of today...now does it???

Originally posted by djv1985
It might just be me but i don't really see what they claim to have proven?
i mean all they are saying is that they have created a block using techniques that they believe were used in those days, using the material or bits that again they believe were used, they don't explain how the blocks were lifted to the point high above ground level

The idea is that blocks weren't lifted into place. The mixture was carried up, bucket by bucket, to whereever they wanted to place the block. A wooden mold was built and the mixture was poured in. Once it had set - hey presto, you've put a giant stone block halfway up the pyramid.

Originally posted by EvillerBob

Originally posted by djv1985
It might just be me but i don't really see what they claim to have proven?
i mean all they are saying is that they have created a block using techniques that they believe were used in those days, using the material or bits that again they believe were used, they don't explain how the blocks were lifted to the point high above ground level

The idea is that blocks weren't lifted into place. The mixture was carried up, bucket by bucket, to whereever they wanted to place the block. A wooden mold was built and the mixture was poured in. Once it had set - hey presto, you've put a giant stone block halfway up the pyramid.

Okay thank you for that, now i understand what he is trying to say about how the blocks got there. very helpful EvillerBob. that really makes me think though, and you have actually made me question the theory about how they were built however i still have one question left maybe someone can shoot this down:
How did they know how to build the blocks and how come pyramids were appearing all over the world?
Wait that's two questions.
But again thanks EvillerBob.

Surely the pyramids have a foundation, whats underneath? As above so is below. We want the truth now, it still doesn't explain why they built the bloody things.

Originally posted by djv1985
It might just be me but i don't really see what they claim to have proven?
i mean all they are saying is that they have created a block using techniques that they believe were used in those days, using the material or bits that again they believe were used, they don't explain how the blocks were lifted to the point high above ground level, they don't say how if Egypt does it did that mean that someone on another continent knew the same thing or heard about it (Yes i know there wasn't much travel between continents) i mean i really am stumped at the point of the video or even the link. i mean there's nothing there that explains anything other than how they believe the blocks were built.

Sorry but i am a not the smartest guy in the room or for that matter this website but i cannot understand what he is trying to do or say. maybe if i buy the book it will say something about how the rest of the world built pyramids or something more important as to prove his theory. as to whether aliens built them or not, isn't really something that i care about, all though i do believe that something must have been going with pyramids of all sorts popping up all over the world. its just i cannot understand why people on here are now saying BUT THE ALIENS DID IT, or THE ALIENS DIDN'T DO IT.
This man has proven nothing other than how to build a block according to what he sees as the same way that they originally did it. but again maybe i'm that simple, because i for the love of me do not understand the point of this video or even experiment maybe someone can dumb it down for me. (If you do, think of me as a infant.)
Otherwise my theory to the pyramids being built with the influence of something or someone still stands.

Thats because he is saying the blocks were NEVER lifted, they were cast in position and never moved! The only thing that was ever moved is baskets of the mixture which was then dumped into wooden moulds.

reply to post by Hanslune
Hiya Hans, you might as well step away from the thread and leave it to run its course.

Davidovits has been busy over in Bosnia and you'll never guess what he found in that imaginary pyramid?

Have a guess.

More poured blocks.

Seems like he finds them everywhere. His evidence was refuted point-for-point by Dipyan Jana in this presentation. Jana's a PhD scientist and commercial engineer whose specialisation is microscopy of concrete and rock.

Then again, what does an expert have to offer?

I remember it because this same argument came up on ATS in 2009. It was a good thread and you'll see some of the names who used to show up for the debate...

reply to post by GunzCoty


I'd love to see it done to scale and the accuracy that we find. Another thing that bothers me about the demonstrated pouring- the blocks at the GP, although very tight they actually are separated and not cemented together like the French demonstration clearly shows. that's how they build dams, so they can be a solid structure and the GP definitely is not solid

So this got me to thinking how did they get the limestone fine enough to pour like cement? They had too have some tools to grind this rock down.

One Answer...More questions

Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by GunzCoty

 

I'd love to see it done to scale and the accuracy that we find. Another thing that bothers me about the demonstrated pouring- the blocks at the GP, although very tight they actually are separated and not cemented together like the French demonstration clearly shows. that's how they build dams, so they can be a solid structure and the GP definitely is not solid

No if you cast one block next to a cured block the surfaces will not bond together. If you fill a bucket half full of cement, let it set and then fill the other half the two will not bond together. If you want the two to bond together you actually have to prepare the surface (key it up).

Originally posted by Power_Semi

My point is that this thread, especially the title is one of shock and awe - BREAKING NEWS TYPE STUFF - THE PYRAMIDS ARE PROVED TO BE MAN_MADE!!!!!

Well what would you have expected from people who lived in mud huts?

The only people surprised are those who for some inane reason think that aliens came to Earth and built a load of buildings.

Maybe this is the problem. Instead of looking at the pyramids and saying "these were made by people who lived in mud huts, how might they have done it in the simplest way and a way that would be possible for them to achieve" and then finding the obvious and logical answer, what people like the ones on ATS say is:

"These can't have been made by people living in mud huts, they must have had help from.... ALIENS!!!"

Because they don't look at the structures and work out how the people known to live in the area at the time might have made them.

They look at them and think "if we were going to make these today we'd need blocks of stone, cranes, planes, blah" and snce they didn't have those they must have had some help from some people with advanced technology, which of course must have been aliens.

Hence my statement that people who think that must be morons or retards.

I believe the ancients may have had technology we don’t currently have however I wouldn’t describe this technology as being highly advanced or sophisticated. For example:

“an Austrian named Linauer, who stated that while at a remote monastery in northern Tibet during the 1930s, he had witnessed the demonstration of two curious sound instruments which could induce weightlessness in stone blocks. The first was an extremely large gong, 3.5 metres in diameter, composed of a central circular area of very soft gold, followed by a ring of pure iron, and finally a ring of extremely hard brass. When struck, it produced an extremely low dumph which ceased almost immediately. The second instrument was also composed of three different metals; it had a half-oval shape like a mussel shell, and measured 2 metres long and 1 metre wide, with strings stretched longitudinally over its hollow surface. Linauer was told that it emitted an inaudible resonance wave when the gong was struck. The two devices were used in conjunction with a pair of large screens, positioned so as to form a triangular configuration with them. When the gong was struck with a large club to produce a series of brief, low-frequency sounds, a monk was able to lift a heavy stone block with just one hand.”

reply to post by LUXUS


I'd read about this years ago as well. Sounds reasonable to me.

Even if it has been proven, those who want it to be something else will just reject it anyway. They have been attempting to force the evidence to fit the theory for a long time.

Myths like the perfection of the stones and their placement have continued for how long now? Of course they ignore the fact during construction the stones got far enough out of line an adjustment is evident. Also the fact the pyramids are not aligned very well.

I've never understood the idea that somehow people were less intelligent then than now. This just makes sense.

reply to post by LUXUS


I don't think I'm ready to buy into that story either. Hoaxers and charlatans are prevalent in all cultures and all times. Anything from any time period or location can be a hoax or wrong, just as it is now. So and so says they this or that is seldom evidence of anything other than another myth or hoax.

Originally posted by Ookie
Once again, I own a chunk off this pyramid. It is sitting before me. It has tons of delicate fossils in it. Sea creatures. These could not be in there if the rock had been ground up and then poured like concrete. It is limestone. Concrete is a form of limestone. But it is limestone that has first been heated then crushed to powder.

It is utterly impossible for this rock to have been man made. Period.

I do not understand why people wonder about how they built the pyramids. That was proven 30 years ago. There is no mystery there. At all. None.

You want a mystery? How did they move those stones at the temple of Baalbek? Those suckers were enormous and they stacked them like bricks. WTF?

That is what i was going to post.

Baalbek_-_temple_of_Jupiter

The answer i have seen is they used cranes with one crane on top of another. So perhaps cranes were used on the pyramids...or maybe this is obvious since i have not put much time into studying these things.

I don't believe the pyramids are concrete blocks. Concrete cracks. All Concrete cracks rather rapidly too. All the pressure of the concrete on top of concrete with earthquakes and compression, the concrete blocks would eventually desintegrate. Nature makes things more perfectly than man made. Stone lasts longer.

My relative was killed changing a tire on a hay cart using a concrete cinder block which desintegrated and the cart smashed him. Concrete is not that strong.

Finally a decent thread. Debunking? Maybe, maybe not. But as you can see they have built the blocks. Now if they can build a mini-pyramid, that would be something, to finally in the end case once and for all. And all you people saying you want to believe. It's the same with all religions as well, you clearly just saw how they made the 1 ton stones. Why not keep an open mind about everything? Why do you people always have to stick to one belief even if it's bull#?

Why not keep an open mind to all theories? And to say aliens would fly here across galaxies to help us build pyramids, seems far fetched.


The only thing I know, is that I know nothing.

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
it's so simple yet so perfect

of course the aliens helped with the molds

totally, this is old stuff too, people have talked about the blocks being like poured cement for years and years.

but you are correct, it is more sensational to think aliens did it.

personally, I think Nelly Furtado made the pyramids out of leftover hoop earrings

reply to post by LUXUS

Thats because he is saying the blocks were NEVER lifted, they were cast in position and never moved! The only thing that was ever moved is baskets of the mixture which was then dumped into wooden moulds.

I believe it's possible. But if these blocks were poured there should evidence of the seams between each of the boards used as forms.

Or there should be evidence that these seams in the blocks were polished away after they cured.

Originally posted by IpsissimusMagus
I believe it's possible. But if these blocks were poured there should evidence of the seams between each of the boards used as forms.

Or there should be evidence that these seams in the blocks were polished away after they cured.

Not necessarily. The test in the video shows that the seams did not leave an impression, they even mention it specifically.