Obama speeds up limited air strike, no-fly zones preparations for Syria *VIDEO*

Originally posted by randomname
reply to post by whywhynot

 

i believe by boat. they do exist in china.

Here

Do you have some better info? This link claims that the People's Liberation Army/Navy has all of 6 Troop Transports. Six troop transports are not moving many troops for invading the US mainland.

I wonder why the fact that this man is a Nobel peace prize winner isnt more of an issue not only in the American press but the world press

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The UK Daily Mail did a good exposing hypocrite Obama. Good on UK press for turning against the US.

So much for that Nobel Peace Prize! How anti-war Obama has become Lord High Executioner

By Toby Harnden

PUBLISHED: 23:26 GMT, 5 June 2012 | UPDATED: 23:29 GMT, 5 June 2012

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2155099/So-Nobel-Peace-Prize-How-anti-war-Obama-Lord-High-Executioner.html

Originally posted by 11235813213455
I wonder why the fact that this man is a Nobel peace prize winner isnt more of an issue not only in the American press but the world press

Well let's see here. Take your pick.

Vladimir Putin Wins Peace Prize!

Obama has won Nobel Peace Prize

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Probably because no one take that prize seriously anymore. Like the "Man of the Year" anyone can get it now. At one time it was important ....no more

reply to post by SLAYER69


Don't get me wrong - I'm dead set against intervention in what is essentially an internal Syrian matter, but DAY-YUM! These claims that Russia and China are going to risk it all over a third-world client state are blown WAY out of proportion to all reality!

play a game coal'd RISK.
and you will know what they are doing.
they will get us into a big war.

the others in the game!
have only one choice.
they must fight back.

I hope you people are aware of other side, Bahrain arrested 11 yo boy for "attending political rallies"

The official in photo excused by referring to similar charges in the west where teenagers and children sometimes are charged as adults.

Weak excuse.

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How does this relate to a possible full blown civil war in Syria?
I guess what I'm asking is how is this relevant?
What angle are you getting at?

Just curious is all.

reply to post by SLAYER69


Its freedom at stake if Assad looses to those insane sunnis

Originally posted by OpinionatedB
Its freedom at stake if Assad looses to those insane sunnis

How do you rationalize that argument?

Those insane Sunnis as you call them are the majority in their own country. Their freedom isn't as important as the tiny monitory Shiites need to stay in power?

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Are you playing dishonest dirty debate games?

You have read works like Arthur Schopenhauer's tactical stratagems and similar dirty "win a debate" books haven't you?

I'm just as puzzled by what your angle with your page 1 post was?

Canadianpride420 went unanswered as to his reply to you.

Your post just now can be said of Bahrain, Shia majority citizens, Sunni minority rulers.

Also your sectarian post above.

See how silly is to not discuss honestly? You points are applicable and can be used against you to what I posted with Bahrain.

reply to post by SLAYER69


They have all the freedom of religion everyone else has.... which is a good thing... and something they plan on taking away from everyone else when they gain power

Originally posted by uesvaje
Canadianpride420 went unanswered as to his reply to you.

I responded to the over blown threats of Russian and Iranian intervention that always get's tossed out like yesterdays paper. He made his rebuttal and now those are the sides in this thread's premise.

Your post just now can be said of Bahrain, Shia majority citizens, Sunni minority rulers.

Let me ask you a question, How long do you think that situation will last as well? People are waking up all over the place. Minority rule is going to be a thing of the past.

Also your sectarian post above.

What?
Do you deny there has been sectarian violence between the two going back hundreds of years? This isn't anything new. I'm sorry.

See how silly is to not discuss honestly? You points are applicable and can be used against you to what I posted with Bahrain.

I am discussing the situation honestly IMO. I always try to call it down the middle and I will often get slammed because of it and many hate it when I hold a mirror that shows them their hypocrisy.

The fact of the matter is that most simply hate the idea of their side losing.
Sorry, but there it is.

reply to post by SLAYER69


Putin will only risk his troops,when its in his ballpark.And HIS rules.

What might a Russian-brokered transition in Syria look like?

Perhaps the best case study is Chechnya, home to another restive Muslim people, summarily categorized as Islamist terrorists and therefore deemed fair game for indiscriminate bombing campaigns, house-to-house raids, rapes and disappearances. Since 2003, Chechnya has been ruled as an undisguised and thoroughly corrupt satrapy of the Kremlin. Its current “president,” Ramzan Kadyrov, has repeatedly rigged elections to give the ruling United Russia Party a Ba’ath-like showing of upwards of 99 percent. Prior to the last Duma election in December, Chechen officials claimed that there were 608,797 registered voters; 611,099 ballots were subsequently cast. According to the US State Department’s 2011 human rights report on Russia, Kadyrov’s government “continues to violate fundamental freedoms, engage in collective retribution against families of suspected militants, and foster an overall atmosphere of fear and intimidation.” A Syrian Kadyrov is easy enough to imagine: Maher al-Assad, Bashar’s more sadistic brother, could assume the presidency and allow Putin to declare a “cosmetic” transition in effect.

Put in the peacemaker for Syria? That's not how it's worked out in Chechnya and Georgia

What I find the most hypocritcal about Syria is Russia can act in their own self interest but when other countries do it's oh hell no they don't.

Quite the doube standard going on with "all things Syrian".

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Georgia agrees.......

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According to the US State Department’s 2011 human rights report on Russia, Kadyrov’s government “continues to violate fundamental freedoms, engage in collective retribution against families of suspected militants, and foster an overall atmosphere of fear and intimidation.”

Propoganda reports of US State Department can say whatever they want. Ask a common person from Chechneya if they would want to go back to days of rubble and dust when house to house fighting was going on in Grozny.

Attitudes and observations like these are irritating. Wonder why the Blacks in US are still at the same economic level as they were in 1970s.

Fundamental freedoms? like Gay marriages? such freedoms are good only for Americans. Sorry but human race is better off without such fundamental freedoms.

reply to post by SLAYER69


I don't think you understand the mindset of the Syrian people at all. Alawites, Christians, Druze, majority of Kurds, Shia and Sunni muslims all support Assad. And just so you can't throw the Iran/Syria sympathizer card my way, I'm not a fan of either government. But those terrorists(FSA and SNC) are killing, destroying, abducting anyone they come across. Journalists have come forward and admitted this. They massacre civilians and blame it on the government. But when the bodies are identified, they are always Alawite or Christian civilians in Sunni majority cities. Clearly the work of the terrorists. Many of the rebels aren't even Syrian.

Your opinion would be quite different if you lived in Syria and had to worry about these armed terrorists ransacking your home, raping your wife and executing your entire family. How anyone can support such barbaric actions is beyond me, especially if ones researched themself.

Originally posted by Maxmars
If you're going down the path of doomsday,. 2012, and biblical end times; I have a greater fear....

The arrival of a new "political/diplomatic" player who will "bring peace" to the region....

THAT scares me.

Watch for the one-eyed guy with a silk blue turban.... or some such thing

I thought the reference to blue head gear was these...

www.google.com...