Did you know you are consuming Ractopamine ... What is It ?

reply to post by 1BornPatriot


I stopped eating pork a couple years ago for moral reasons, and reduced my amount of beef intake recently, news like this only reinforces my belief that i have done the right thing.

Originally posted by Whateva69
reply to post by 1BornPatriot

 

This is the first i have heard about this, thank you.

i did a little searching for ractopamine used in Australia and i found a bit of information.

Ractopamine has been banned in over 160 countries worldwide, excluding the US, Canada and of course Australia
The chemical ractopamine is a beta agonist agent given to Pigs to increase protein synthesis. The public has not been made aware of this dangerous chemical and continue to eat it when dining on Australian pork.
Ractopamine is responsible for Quote:
responsible for hyperactivity, muscle breakdown and 10 percent mortality in pigs.

The problem with allowing this chemical to be given to pigs on such a large scale is that there has been no proper testing to show the short and long term effect to both new generations of pigs and even humans.
Although it is just one of the many thousand dangerous chemicals we encounter every day, it should be brought attention to none the less.
Quote:
As much as twenty percent of Paylean, given to pigs for their last 28 days, Optaflexx, given to cattle their last 28 to 42 days and Tomax, given to turkeys their last 7 to 14 days, remains in consumer meat says author and well known veterinarian Michael W. Fox. Ractopamine is used in 45 percent of US pigs, according to Elanco Animal Health, which manufactures all three products.
Ractopamine is even banned in China (not famous for its food protection).
Note that its handling instructions are: “Not for use in humans. Individuals with cardiovascular disease should exercise special caution to avoid exposure. Use protective clothing, impervious gloves, protective eye wear, and a NIOSH-approved dust mask”. Yet the FDA has classed it as safe to swallow!

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And the beef industry must have used it in 2008, but im still searching to see if they still do today.

In the latest round of inspections, two samples of Australian beef and two samples of New Zealand beef tested positive for ractopamine, said the Department of Health (DOH, 衛生署) yesterday. In addition, one sample of Australian beef tested positive for zilpaterol, a growth promoter more toxic than ractopamine.
In a round of inspections that ended March 11, health authorities tested 219 imported meat products nationwide for growth-promoting drugs. Ractopamine was detected in 36 samples.

Thirty-two of these imports are from the U.S., two from Australia, and two from New Zealand. Findings are pending confirmation, the DOH said yesterday.

In another sample of Australian beef, the DOH detected zilpaterol at the concentration of 0.88 parts per billion (ppb).

Growth drugs found in Australian beef


Oh found a 2012 artical

A hot pot restaurant in the northern Taiwanese city of Taoyuan has reportedly served Australian beef containing the leanness-enhancing feed additive ractopamine, which has been at the center of controversy in the country.

Australian beef containing ractopamine found in Taiwan


Apparently it causes cancer and the product states its not for human consumption

also its appears the food industry and farming industry dont believe you are what you eat

love and harmony
Whateva

Ijust don't get it.They ban sugary drinks in New York,They ban trans fats everywhere.But they put toxic stuff in our meat.What is going on? I need a answer!

USA is just perfect example what happens if capitalism goes on unregulated.

And by unregulated i mean as everything is ruled by money.

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Research a good vitamin/supplement – I use Garden of Life: RAW MEAL. From my own investigation this is one of the only supplements that has all organic/vegan ingredients. Roughly $80 a month.

Avoid any and all MLM supplements such as the Youngevity line pushed by Alex Jones, which still has synthetic elements and due to the MLM is expensive compared to non-synthetics.

Veggies should be the main portion of any meal followed by carbohydrates then meat. Most people are exactly the opposite.

If we choose to buy organic food and only organically feed open range chicken/beef etc. TPTB will eventually follow suite because the one thing the love more than soft kills is money.

Boycott GMO/Monsanto products. This is accomplished by buying locally grown food. Now that summer is approaching this is a no brainier, as the produce is readily available. Winter months are trickier, however.

reply to post by ConspiracyBuff


Not only "organic" meat, which could mean a number of things, but local meat if at all possible. Of course no-hormone and cage-free as well, preferably fed on a varied diet that isn't just, you know, weird processed grains.

reply to post by 1BornPatriot


DAMNIT!!! WTF???? Why the hell can't this stuff BE in CHICKEN I HATE CHICKEN...BEEF is my favorite meat and of course they want to poison it...Why is it expensive then? THIS simply does not compute, because the price is high meaning the more wealthy people would consume more, am I not correct??? I am pretty confused by this. You'd think pork and chicken (cheaper and more accessible) would be their meat of choice if they want the "POOR" people to be dying?

Originally posted by shogu666
USA is just perfect example what happens if capitalism goes on unregulated.

And by unregulated i mean as everything is ruled by money.

Ruled by money yes, capitalism? Not really. Can you name ANY country NOT ruled by money?

I would assume (maybe incorrectly) organic meat does not have this?

reply to post by ldyserenity


The really really poor people don't even have clean water or stores for that matter.

They don't have any meat at all. Aids, malaria, starvation, malnutrition and other diseases is what kills them.

Well, if the chemical actually promotes "protein synthesis", than I would think that should counter-act it's negative and actually potentially protect against cancer formation.

Protein:

A protein is a linear polymer built from about 20 different amino acids. The type and the sequence of amino acids in a protein are specified by the DNA in the cell that produces them. This sequence of amino acids is essential since it determines the overall structure and function of a protein.

A protein has several functions. It may serve as a structural material (e.g. keratin), as enzymes, as transporters (e.g. hemoglobin), as antibodies, or as regulators of gene expression.

Protein Synthesis :

The creation of proteins by cells that uses DNA, RNA and various enzymes.

Transcription:

Transcription, the process by which an mRNA template, encoding the sequence of the protein in the form of a trinucleotide code, is transcribed from DNA to provide a template for translation

biology online.org

This actually sounds like it would mitigate all sorts of ailments and improve the bodies' functionality.

However, since I don't know the adverse side effects, it's impossible to tell. If the chemical promotes heart or kidney failure than obviously it's not worth whatever minor benefits it may present.

We assume they want to depopulate large sections of the world's population, yet this is only legal in Canada, Aussie, and USA? And banned in all other nations?

What if it did in fact mitigate cancer growth as suspected, and could counter the effects of things like radioactive pollution? Who knows, but it's certainly worth considering the flip side to all of it.

reply to post by 1BornPatriot


I love Dr AL Bartlett. I really enjoyed this.

reply to post by IpsissimusMagus


We deliver all kinds of foods to those countries too, have they been tested I bet if this is eugenistic, then there is some rather terrible stuff in the foods we are "donating" them. I'd be scared to accept food from America, Canada or Australia, regardless how badly I was starving if I knew about this stuff they're doing to their own, which they probably don't and happily eat the stuff we are adding to their death with.

And yet another reason in a long list of reasons for me to never eat meat or any animal products at all.

Remember a few years ago - when they demonized Eggs... ???? well, they got everyone off of eggs... if your a male - and you want your manhood back --- eat a half a dozen eggs everyday... and when you think your eating healthy - well are you ? or are you changing your diet because you heard something ? -- I cant recall any other time in history where people go on a diet to loose weight and they gain it - instead.
and they still wonder what is going on --- ha ha ha -- connect the dots and if you want to figure it out.

reply to post by 1BornPatriot


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Originally posted by muzzleflash
Well, if the chemical actually promotes "protein synthesis", than I would think that should counter-act it's negative and actually potentially protect against cancer formation.

Protein:

A protein is a linear polymer built from about 20 different amino acids. The type and the sequence of amino acids in a protein are specified by the DNA in the cell that produces them. This sequence of amino acids is essential since it determines the overall structure and function of a protein.

A protein has several functions. It may serve as a structural material (e.g. keratin), as enzymes, as transporters (e.g. hemoglobin), as antibodies, or as regulators of gene expression.

Protein Synthesis :

The creation of proteins by cells that uses DNA, RNA and various enzymes.

Transcription:

Transcription, the process by which an mRNA template, encoding the sequence of the protein in the form of a trinucleotide code, is transcribed from DNA to provide a template for translation

biology online.org

This actually sounds like it would mitigate all sorts of ailments and improve the bodies' functionality.

However, since I don't know the adverse side effects, it's impossible to tell. If the chemical promotes heart or kidney failure than obviously it's not worth whatever minor benefits it may present.

We assume they want to depopulate large sections of the world's population, yet this is only legal in Canada, Aussie, and USA? And banned in all other nations?

What if it did in fact mitigate cancer growth as suspected, and could counter the effects of things like radioactive pollution? Who knows, but it's certainly worth considering the flip side to all of it.

edit on 9-6-2012 by muzzleflash because: (no reason given)

Just so you know that someone does appreciate that you went to a credible source and learned more about it before posting, I'm leaving you this comment. KUDOS to you for Denying Ignorance instead of feeding into it!!!

reply to post by PurpleChiten


LOL, I starred his post as well.

SO many people are quick to jump to conclusions, usually of the negative variety.

I still haven't heard whether or not if it's ractopamine hcl or another form of ractopamine that is put in the meat. Another poster linked some info a few pages back. It was disturbing information about how bad this stuff is. But then again, the info was for ractopamine hcl. Now, my question was is it ractopamine hcl that is being used or is it another form?

Like I stated before, this substance could have potential. Body builders have been using it and to my knowledge there were no severe sides or ER visits from it. I'm thinking that It could help obese people because of the way it shuttles nutrients away from adipose tissue.

The first thread on this substance, that I linked at the beginning of this thread, has a lot of info in it too. And like this thread, too many people were quick to demonize ractopamine and even meat! without knowing all of the facts. I'm not saying I know all the facts but I do know enough to learn as much about something as I can before I pass judgement on it.

I'm gonna get me some ractopamine.
I'll make a thread journaling my results.

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by PurpleChiten

 

LOL, I starred his post as well.

SO many people are quick to jump to conclusions, usually of the negative variety.

I still haven't heard whether or not if it's ractopamine hcl or another form of ractopamine that is put in the meat. Another poster linked some info a few pages back. It was disturbing information about how bad this stuff is. But than again, the info was for ractopamine hcl. Now, my question was is it ractopamine hcl that is being used or is it another form?

Like I stated before, this substance could have potential. Body builders have been using it and to my knowledge there were no severe sides or ER visits from it. I'm thinking that It could help obese people because of the way it shuttles nutrients away from adipose tissue.

The first thread on this substance, that I linked at the beginning of this thread, has a lot of info in it too. And like this thread, too many people were quick to demonize ractopamine and even meat! without knowing all of the facts. I'm not saying I know all the facts but I do know enough to learn as much about something as I can before I pass judgement on it.

I'm gonna get me some ractopamine.
I'll make a thread journaling my results.

edit on 9-6-2012 by kimish because: (no reason given)

good point since ractopamine hcl would mean it was combined with hydrocloric acid where just ractopamine would not and the hydrocloric could be what was causing the negative effects just like mixing hydrocloric acid with water would be caustic!

Originally posted by Maurice2014
reply to post by 1BornPatriot

 

The "48 Laws of Power" is a 1998 book by Robert Greene.

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I like that. Putting in my permanant file!

This was interesting topic all those years ago, so i thought i'd bump it in case anyone has anything new to add...