If god was proven, then what?

If there were the Bible's God? I'd finally understand where humans get their deep-rooted ego from.


If there was some sort of undefinable omnipotent creator, some conscious mass of energy who hit "play" on the big bang, out beyond the cosmos and the universe of universes?..... I could dig that.

All I know for certain, is there was a beginning.

If I had proof I'd want to meet with Him to ask him where the **** He's been all this time because there's been a lot of murdering going on in His name. There's also been a lot of misery spread all over the place.

It's time for our Creator to come out of the closet, so to speak.

Originally posted by SupersonicSerpent
I believe in a creature but not that what the bible depicts that was just written by man,and coincidentally kept people in check and under control.even the most holiest priest and such have even broke the 1st commandment by starting wars in the name of god and killing.there is also a lot of missing links in the bible, like how the dinosaurs and other billion year old fossil's was not mentioned once, you would think god would tell us about the life forms that thrived before us.

yet the bible tells a mystical story that the earth was created in 7 days and god created a garden and created Adam and eve.and so on.

dinosaur bones are solid proof of evolution alone,and the reason they aren't mentioned in the bible is because the first dinosaur skeleton was discovered unto the 1920s i believe.

other proof is we have a tail bone and share 99% the same DNA as a chimp,I believe some where in evolution there was a genetic mess up in monkey sex that created humans or we was genetically engineered by aliens.both theories are far more likely than religion lol.

yeah, but that gets into a debate and missing the point of what the quesiton was, what would you do if all the stars in sky rearranged into a crucifix or just somthing happen that proved God.

reply to post by Tbrooks76

If god was proven, then what?

Then we try to kill the lunatic.

Of course, if something is proven to you. You must accept it. At the same time, I don't have to agree with the concepts. I would be sad if the God that is written of in the Bible did exist. I can't agree with all of the wrong I see in it. I can't agree with creating a species that is flawed and then commanding them to behave a certain way or else burn forever, with no proof as to if its real or not. So many questions would need to be answered before I would ever consider loyalty to such a God. Real or not.

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I believe there is a God, I believe we are a part of him.
I cannot prove this nor do I believe there is a way to prove it either.
I don't believe 99.999 percent of the lies that the churches spew however.
I believe that at the end of our journey we will get proof however, that does nothing for the living in the way of proof.

My honest opinion. If the religous God, say christian, muslim God,
was real, then i would be gutted because then i would know that
god is an arragont, ignorant, evil, primitive thinking being.

But i know the religous god is not real, so thats okay

Its ok and I don't care if you all think I'm crazy.

I will tell you all something personal, and why I ask this question...
I was an agnostic years ago, and something did happen to me so incredible, that it prove to myself there was a God. I'm not going to get into what that was, it's personal, but I had the event, that I'm asking you what you do if happen to you. It was something that really change the way I think about things. No drugs no drinking, I was driving down the road when I seen this event that can only be discribe as supernatural happen right in front, and no other cars around at the time.

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I've been a Christian for about 12 years of my life, but now I'm agnostic. I can't prove or disprove the existence of a creator residing at some celestial vantage point.

I don't want to turn this into a debate about the authenticity of various religions, but learning about the "Evolution of Religion" is vital in our understanding of why people believe in supernatural entities.

Originally posted by Tbrooks76

Now for the atheist and/or agnostic, I know its very much a hypothetical questions but...
If someone or something came along tomorrow that 100% without a dough proved God was real how would you feel about it.

Please, think about it for real, and try to answer honest, you found out God was real, Whats the reaction?

I'm assuming you mean the christian god. And, honestly, I would feel absolute hate for this entity. It would mean he deliberately set up Adam and Eve to fail. It would mean he ALLOWED satan to tempt us. It would mean he actually did kill everyone and everything in a flood. It would mean he really did kill all of the firstborn of Egypt. He really did turn a woman into a pillar of salt just for turning around and looking at the destruction of the twin sin cities. It would mean he really did answer someone's prayer about finding a lost wedding ring, and let millions of children starve to death. It would mean he really did cause a miracle to cure someone of cancer, but allowed millions of other to die from it.

No, this god better not be real.

Originally posted by TheCelestialHuman
reply to post by Tbrooks76

 

Well i would accept that god is real, if it was proven. But, I wouldn't change the way i act. If given the opportunity, i would tell god what a piece of sh** he is, and to look out because I'm coming for his job.

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Right there with ya!

Originally posted by cuervo

Originally posted by Akragon
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Why do you believe God and evolution can't co-exist?

Because both the church and the scientific community insist they are at diametrically opposite ends of the spectrum.

It will be that way until science and spirituality becomes indistinguishable. We're getting there.

Opinions of man...

All one has to do is look around this world... IF said person can "see" God is all around him... said person might also see that everything grows "evolves" and dies...such is all things in the physical "chaotic" world...

Is a man not mearly a more "developed" child?

Science seeks to prove that one creature can turn into another... when the answer is right before everyone eyes, yet they do not see it...

IF one realizes the error of his ways... and seeks to change his ways for the better and therefore changes his state of mind... and being...

Isn't that evolution?

Originally posted by Tbrooks76
Its ok and I don't care if you all think I'm crazy.

I will tell you all something personal, and why I ask this question...
I was an agnostic years ago, and something did happen to me so incredible, that it prove to myself there was a God. I'm not going to get into what that was, it's personal, but I had the event, that I'm asking you what you do if happen to you. It was something that really change the way I think about things. No drugs no drinking, I was driving down the road when I seen this event that can only be discribe as supernatural happen right in front, and no other cars around at the time.

edit on 7-6-2012 by Tbrooks76 because: (no reason given)

See, this is proof that you are not sure what you witnessed. If you witnessed something so undeniable, you would not flinch, nor care what other people would say to you. You are afraid that people will change your mind, or offer a logical explanation, and you don't want a logical explanation. You want to believe what you want to believe whether it's right or wrong. If I saw something that proved 100% that a god existed, I would scream it from the rooftops until they locked me away.

Oh yeah, and if someone offered a logical explanation, telling me that he saw this too, but he had a brain tumor, and when it was removed, the god things stopped, then I would accept this and get my gray matter checked for a tumor.

Originally posted by jhill76
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In my viewpoint. I believe people would instantly act different. Many would turn to become good, so to speak. I believe he did this by design, so that all could be tested. If he was here for everyone to see, how could he properly test?

I always hear this. Why test us. What are we lab rats running around and once the experiment is finish we get thrown away with armageddon and then a new test gets started. How close am I to the cheese in the maze?

If God was proven, then as stated before he would have alot of explaining to do. Right after he stops everyone from going nuts.

Why do you stipulate that it must be proven without dough......... .?

en.wikipedia.org...

Am I missing something?

What do you expect from this thread?
Anyone who ignores 100% proof of something is an idiot.
Iam an atheist, so are you, I just believe in one less god than you do.
If he was proven to exist without DOUBT , I would believe because it's proven.
As it stands, there is a lot of evidence against the existence of a god, and none that I have seen for one.

God, gods or neither, something is always created from something else. After all, something or someone or etc. had to create God, a god or many gods, in order for any of them (or the one) to exist in the first place. What everyone thinks is God(s) could be aliens...and I am being quite serious because even if God(s) were proven to exist, their very existence would be alien. My point is, we will never really know the answer to everything there is to know, and even if God(s) exist, I don't think she/he/they know the answer to it all either.

If any of the hundreds of 'gods' was proven 100% to be real - I would want to interrogate them for hours on what a crap job they have done, then I would tell them where to get off.

I would never follow a person / entity / energy that has ‘overseen’ us & still caused so much grief and suffering throughout the world for whatever crazy reason they have.

Now if all ‘gods’ turned out to be 100% ancient alien visitations and they left us in the distant past to ‘grow as a species’ this I would understand and accept. I would want to learn and understand things from them.

Mickierocksman

Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Tbrooks76

 

In my viewpoint. I believe people would instantly act different. Many would turn to become good, so to speak. I believe he did this by design, so that all could be tested. If he was here for everyone to see, how could he properly test?

Can you please explain what you mean by, "become good"? Do you mean more people would be kinder and act with greater compassion?

As an atheist, I get somewhat irritated when people imply that you need to be a believer to have morals. I don't need to believe in a supreme being to treat people with kindness and respect, or lend a helping hand to someone in need. I can give support to those less fortunate than myself without fear of repercussions from a god-entity.

I mean no disrespect to you or your beliefs, and if I misinterpreted your post, I am sorry.

reply to post by Tbrooks76


you can call me agnostic or disbeliever...I don't believe in any human made Gods. And they are all made up by humans.

However, I do in all my rationality accept the possibility that there is a creator, but I suspect he is nothing we know or understand.

So to answer your question, I would accept it easily, as I already am at peace with the creator concept. But I would like to make it clear, this creator is nothing like the God we know from Bible, Kuuran or any other "Holy Book".