Nationwide UFO Sighting In Israel - Middle East - Two Massive Objects

this video explains spin movement visual after 2. minute of video.

they were testing a missle defense system...similar to the one used in Norway...

I suspect this is a kind of in your face diplomacy at work here. Russia is supposed to be helping Syria with their problems of modernization. Now high ranking members of the American military have said that they would go into Syria if asked in a police action. You know break a few plates lose all their relics and call that progress. Nation building with heavy artillery and aerial bombing campaigns. The stuff that CNN lives for.

Since they had massive casualties there 100 slaughtered during public unrest recently. However we had already asked Russia to help Syria a while back so that it would maintain the balance of power in the region and so that freedom to choose any other political system would exist. So they would have options they would not have with direct American involvement with boots on the ground.

Have you seen that movie? Well what happens is the first round of political draftees, they get assassinated in the first few years and eventually you end up with what you have today in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Essentially the Iranian model is a good model for change in the middle east. Because it worked.

That does not mean that another form of government would not work as well or better in Syria. What I would suggest is the king work with the International community to create a parliament so that he could become a figurehead.

That is modernization and that is how the majority of the world has found economic freedom.

Originally posted by Infi8nity

Originally posted by SupersonicSerpent
reply to post by SubPop79

 

dont worry about is it is probably the muzzies launching scuds at Israel it is an almost daily accurance or was.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
Nice find , Looks very much like a rocket or missile trail to me.

edit on 7-6-2012 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)

Did you guys even look at the pictures? It looks exactly like the norway spiral. Missles do not make spirals, leave supper erratic swirling ILLUMINATED trails.

Dont even try to argue that its a missile.

i know you might not be a physics major.. but this might help

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Vandettas

 

Apparently.
english.ruvr.ru...

Interesting...

The ministry representatives added that all of the objectives of the test launch were met in full. In particular, it was possible to obtain information that will be used in the future to develop the means to overcome missile defense systems.

That explains the secrecy. And "in particular" the purpose. Electronic warfare countermeasures. The best way to observe your enemies ability to track and engage your weapons systems is to put one up there and "listen". Would have relevance to determining the scope and abilities of the newly established "Missile Shield" in Eastern Europe.

Of course the operators of that system would shave been scrambling to test their newly deployed toys and right away give off their own signatures as they uncage radars and burst satellite encryption, etc. I can see the Russians wringing their hands with glee as they intercept all the data. Objectives "met in full".

reply to post by Rocketman7

BEIJING (Reuters) - Leaders of a bloc grouping China, Russia and Central Asian states called on Thursday for dialogue to address the violence in Syria, all but guaranteeing that there will be no end to the deadlock in discussions at the U.N. Security Council.

Russia and China - permanent members of the U.N. Security Council with the power to veto resolutions - have stymied efforts by Western powers to condemn or call for the removal of President Bashar al-Assad, whose forces, the U.N. says, have killed at least 10,000 people in more than a year of unrest.

So essentially as I say it is a discussion regarding the balance of power in the region and I agree that Russia and China that coalition, with the other countries in that coalition be the support system for Syria. In that way they will have freedom to create their own system of government that suits them personally.

We always have to give people the chance to forge their own destiny. It would be arrogant of us to assume that our system is the best. It should always be tested. And the balance of power is crucial for global economics.
You need a free market system since capitalism is easily defeated by monopolies or any form of corporate might that limits innovation. Capitalism needs freedom to operate and so we work towards balancing power structures so that there are always other options and avenues that companies can take.

And without capitalism, its difficult to feed your family.

You know Syria has an average GDP per capita of only 3,000 dollars. Iran 13,000 per person per year.
You can live on 13,000 but you can't live very well on 3,000.

So its an economic imperative and not just change for changes sake, why people have taken to the streets these last couple years. There is no reason these people should be left behind while all around them people are enjoying the fruits of their labors.

I am not going to even tell you what Israel's GDP per capita is, you can look that one up.

Originally posted by chrismicha77
reply to post by Infi8nity

 

The Norway Spiral was a Russian ballistic missle, not a portal or UFO.

This is likely the same thing.

Beep! Wrong Answer!
Read my blog post linking norway spiral and a pleyadian antigravitic drive that is used in their ships acording Vladimir Terziski. Blog post.

Bellow I quote one of his conferences, that are available on youtube, and got two print screens of this part of the conference. Note that the conference was at least ten years on past before the Norway Spiral Event:
Terziski believed that some crop circles were generated by the effect of a gravitic propulsion drive system, in this case of pleyadean (from beings from pleyades) origin, as well spirals in the sky:



"This a very intersting account from Red China, and here, unlike in Britain, that the crop circle is on surface, on the ground, here the drive of the craft affects Space Time and the atmosphere in such a way, that we have a circle formation on the underside of the craft. We have a white and a black forces (vortex?) chasing each other, kind a never ending yin and yang frenesi, ever chasing and never reaching each other.

This is a rotational diapole, the Yin and Yang is basicaly a rotational diapole of vortex.
(in video 5 of 13) I see also a triple yin-yang, where three entitys are chasing each other in a circle, a rotating tripole. The swastica is a very simple representation of a rotating quadripole. Four pole, plus minus, plus minus rotating. You will see very soon , that is exactelly the case , some Russian experiments prove that the swastica is basicaly a representation of their quadrupole antigravity drive."


SO IT IS AN EFFECT OF A PLEIADIAN ROTARY FIELD DRIVE. WHEN THE LAND ON A GRASS OR PLANTATION FIELD , AND TAKE OFF, SOME MAY MARK THE GRASS OR PLANTATION TORNING IT WITH THE SPINNING ENERGY. IN THE SKY THE SAME OCCURS, LEAVING AN SPIRAL ON SKY."

You may believe it or not, but that's my conclusion. We are been visited, or maybe our governments are using some ships with this propulsion drive technology nowadays.

Peace!

reply to post by skullandbonesband


I don't know why the pictures are blocked, sorry, I will post later when I come to my home, but they are online on my blog (the link is on the post).

reply to post by skullandbonesband

SO IT IS AN EFFECT OF A PLEIADIAN ROTARY FIELD DRIVE.

And SpaceX has one? Cool!

reply to post by Rocketman7


Well here is the article if anyone is interested that I quoted a few posts back.

Essentially without even reading it, I knew what it was about because this process of modernization has been going on for the last 30 years and the general philosophy has remained intact that entire time and also more importantly, over that period of time people have learned the diplomatic method associated with it. So to read that article if you were in the loop your impression would immediately be, we are all on the same page.

So even Kofi Anan, a popular figure in global politics since his days as head of the UN, he is involved as ambassador for the UN, and he has a 6 point plan, and that plan has been ok'd by the Chinese business interests in that region.

news.yahoo.com...

So if you read the article you will see that.

So I wonder what Kofi's 6 point plan is?
en.wikipedia.org...-point_peace_plan

So that sounds good so far. So then the thing to stress is that the best way to proceed with change such as this, is by small steps. Which does not mean drawing up a 20 year plan, You may have one but best not to focus on that. You need to always be focusing on the current economic development and positive things.
So you are building your own brand of democracy and you want to see progress.

And things will evolve as you go along so any plan should be only an outline and you should consider growing your democracy from a sort of grassroots level since in that way it has a firm footing.

When you are moving from the 3rd world to the second and the second to the first there are ways that you can do that so it is not painful. And maybe you can even do it better than others have done it.

One thing you will notice about Iran and I am very proud of Iran and how they did it, one thing that is very impressive is their stewardship of the land. Its a very beautiful pristine country. One of the most beautiful countries in the world. Other places in the region look like post apocalyptic war zones.

reply to post by skullandbonesband


Being gullible is not a very good trait to have.

Give me a list of reputable scientists who believe this to be true, and not one mans blog. Maybe then I'll consider it.

reply to post by Rocketman7


Well I guess I can't just let it go at that. Iraq GDP per capita? 4,800

After all that work and nation building.

Afghanistan? 956 bucks per capita per year. What that means is some make 2 cents a day and they are the rich ones.

If you need some carpets made I know where you can get it done on the cheap.

Iran and China are success stories as are Russia, and many other countries in the east including India and Pakistan. You just have to start down the right road and it gets easier as you go.

The problem with Iraq and Afghanistan and no we shouldn't call them staging grounds for our gigantic military, but that is what they seem to have become and what might be needed to be able to maintain the free market economy in general. You know keep the shipping lanes safe and all of that.
Gotta have cowboys for that. This world demands it. So we all have to pay for them and we all have to support them since the global economy depends also on them doing their part which is often associated with global finance and market management. Things which people constantly haggle over and things which can be so big they need a kind of global security to protect their investments. Investments which create jobs and that sort of thing.
I am glad actually that it hasn't been a success in Iraq and Afghanistan because I was against those two campaigns at the time. Afghanistan ok, they need any help they can get but Iraq I think Saddam would have surrendered maybe given a chance. But that would not suit corporate interests who think only of oil.

So Syria has great wealth in the ground, they have priceless history. It only needs to be developed into a tourist area with quaint accommodations and comfort and there is no reason it couldn't improve its economy drastically.

reply to post by Rocketman7


You know if you look at Syria, its been a political mess there for years.

en.wikipedia.org...

And there are those who might say the only stability they have had there has been that imposed by the regime which has been in power for a very long time.

And they have tried all sorts of parliaments and cabinets and political props.

So what they need is a grass roots icon from political prison, to spearhead a campaign of reforms backed by the International community, (as usual) and we will bank role that new movement using the World Bank (as usual) and they can invest in tourism there since its non destructive.

Then we put the squeeze on de emperor there see, and we tell im look here mr. big, you may be the big kid on YOUR block, but you are just peanuts on main street see. Yeah, if you want to play ball in the big leagues, then you better play ball.

The political mess of border disputes and refugee camps, you know you would be amazed at how fast all that just disappears in a real estate boom. I wouldn't even worry about it. When you actually have money, you will have courts and courts sort out land disputes.

reply to post by Rocketman7


OK, so in a nutshell this is what we are dealing with in Syria. Which is the subject matter related to the missile / rocket display by probably Russia and China as signatory to their agreement to support Syria as part of a larger coalition that makes up the balance of power. The global system for maintaining free markets. Those who don't have that generally have periods of mass starvation and bad overall health. Since that system is what moves goods around at reasonable prices.

IF, when you purchase ANY new item, you say to yourself I got a bargain, it is because that system is there and it is competitive and lucrative. It feeds 7 billion people every day.

So in Syria their type of people who require a type of rule is a Titan form of rule. Which would be Roman, or it could be Muslim, or it could be some hybrid of a king and parliament. Now unfortunately, you do not have a king, you have a president, or what we would call an El Presidente.

Thats better than a dictator but not by much. However other Titan ruled countries do include Brazil, which you have relations with, and China, and Mexico if you need an example of one that isn't working well.

King or Queen as figurehead and then your parliament can work, but you cannot go from where you are, to New America, by any stretch of the imagination.

So you need to think in terms of the second world. And so you need to have families that support the movement and you need to make it local and give the people some ways to speak their minds that are peaceful.
Like farming where small scale agriculture can ship their products to foreign markets, and employ people etc.

These are all dirt poor people living on rice and beans. So? What's good small scale Titan form of rule?
Well? I won't say that the system in Iran doesn't work because it works for them.

So you have a different demographic in Syria, you have the Heinz 57 varieties and might as well just try to be like Greece without the economic disaster. You know fish a bit, don't just sweep.

reply to post by Rocketman7


So there is no such thing as small scale Titan rule. There are no small Titan kingdoms, they are all always vying for world domination. The RC Church is a Titan organization as an example and yes I was baptized Catholic AT BIRTH, so that I would not protest maybe, but none the less they got me too.

But I don't practice, and the subject of religion in that area of a majority Sunni (Muslim) population, in an Arab country, its all one big refugee camp under military rule.

Well you can change that, by going for as much patronage as you can get from China and Russia. Probably China would be your best bet since they are more apt to help you economically.
As much as possible you should try to join some economic collective, so that you can join that huge economic network of Titan organizations that are prospering all over the world, largely through agriculture but not just.
I will be honest with you, the difference between Muslim rule and some other form of rule means that you might be behind other countries economically. But at least its a large Titan organization and since you need Titan rule, you need to think in terms of being part of a large kingdom of some sort in order for it to work to your best advantage. You want to live and prosper and not worry about who is ruling who. Right now that is constantly on everyone's mind there. Almost like Chile.

At least the meeting that was held shows that help of some sort has been mobilized. So you see I encouraged these revolts in the Middle East as did other people, and they made the first brave move towards freedom. We should now back them up and help them attain it.

reply to post by Rocketman7


To answer the question out of Sweden, yes the Russians are Olympians, not Titans, so then why would I have asked them to help Syria?

To see if they could get anywhere. To determine what the population would respond to. And since it has been pretty much established that they are Titan in orientation, then that helps us to understand what type of government they need there to find 'eudaimonia'.

And so then they need a structured form of society, and they need rules and the methods of Roman rule show you a kind of pure Titan type of rule. Its authoritarian. The purpose behind it is to provide a structure to people's lives so they can live without worrying about life in general. So a feudal system would also work.

But as long as you apply certain principles of order, and you have to be purposeful, like a kingdom has high ideals and in that way sees itself as being purposeful. Here though you have cultural ideals that could be conflictual within your own country. You see if you try to bypass the politics, by offloading as much of that as possible to larger organizations in the world, and then concentrate on economic unions, such as agricultural unions and cooperatives and once you build those groups you then have a democratic lobby.

At present you have nothing to unite the people, except for the type of uniting that comes from resistance to oppression. So they need to unite on the local level for economic reasons. More than anything you need economic stimulus. Water. Irrigation. Any investment there would easily be paid back.
goo.gl...

Can you imagine, if you were to use solar power, to charge a battery, that breaks water into HHO through electrolysis, and then you burn that HHO to power a pump, that pumps water, you can pump water by burning water.

goo.gl...

You can see quite plainly here what you need and should be working towards as job one, is irrigation.

And that would mean trying to obtain funding for projects that will desalinate and pump water.

That is where your economic future lies and the sooner you realize that the sooner you will climb out of the trench of destitute poverty.

I'm no expert, but to me it looks like a rocket or missile that was fired to shoot the other down.

reply to post by JustJoe


That's what it looks like to me too....see my post above.. Being that there are 2 objects and one is going down....and here's a video where they seem combined,,,so maybe one shot down the other?

Sorry, I'm posting the two pics that belongs to my post below

Originally posted by skullandbonesband

Originally posted by chrismicha77
reply to post by Infi8nity

 

The Norway Spiral was a Russian ballistic missle, not a portal or UFO.

This is likely the same thing.

Read my blog post linking norway spiral and a pleyadian antigravitic drive that is used in their ships acording Vladimir Terziski. Blog post.

Bellow I quote one of his conferences, that are available on youtube, and got two print screens of this part of the conference. Note that the conference was at least ten years on past before the Norway Spiral Event:
Terziski believed that some crop circles were generated by the effect of a gravitic propulsion drive system, in this case of pleyadean (from beings from pleyades) origin, as well spirals in the sky:

"This a very intersting account from Red China, and here, unlike in Britain, that the crop circle is on surface, on the ground, here the drive of the craft affects Space Time and the atmosphere in such a way, that we have a circle formation on the underside of the craft. We have a white and a black forces (vortex?) chasing each other, kind a never ending yin and yang frenesi, ever chasing and never reaching each other.

This is a rotational diapole, the Yin and Yang is basicaly a rotational diapole of vortex.
(in video 5 of 13) I see also a triple yin-yang, where three entitys are chasing each other in a circle, a rotating tripole. The swastica is a very simple representation of a rotating quadripole. Four pole, plus minus, plus minus rotating. You will see very soon , that is exactelly the case , some Russian experiments prove that the swastica is basicaly a representation of their quadrupole antigravity drive."

SO IT IS AN EFFECT OF A PLEIADIAN ROTARY FIELD DRIVE. WHEN THE LAND ON A GRASS OR PLANTATION FIELD , AND TAKE OFF, SOME MAY MARK THE GRASS OR PLANTATION TORNING IT WITH THE SPINNING ENERGY. IN THE SKY THE SAME OCCURS, LEAVING AN SPIRAL ON SKY."

You may believe it or not, but that's my conclusion. We are been visited, or maybe our governments are using some ships with this propulsion drive technology nowadays.

Peace!

Now it is better. Thanks.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Infi8nity

 

"It reached a height of some 80 kilometers and flew north of the border with Lebanon," he said. "It wasn't a meteor."

True, not a meteor but an astronomer should know better than to make a statement like that. He has no way of knowing its altitude.

The video makes it look exactly like a rocket launch. I wonder where it came from.

It was a guess, his other descriptions are not guesses. Just because he tried to guess the high dose not make his response invalid.