9/11 predicted in X-men comic book?

A friend of mine is a comic book collector and pointed out a possible reference to 9/11 in an X-men comic book from 1985, issue #189.

I have seen other threads regarding pre-9/11 references in movies and television shows. A few of them make me raise an eyebrow. I'm not so sure this one is predictive enough to be considered a foreshadowing.

On the bottom of the first page, it says:

"In her mind's eye, she sees lower Manhattan burning. The Twin Towers of the World Trade Center lie in ruins. Thousands are dead, many more injured. Rachel's a telepath."

The character is a telepath and sees the destruction "in her mind's eye", and there's a picture of the Twin Towers on the top of the next page.

Here is a scan of the referenced pages.



Someone else noticed it, too. Here's a link to Tumblr, but there is no image of the comic book pages: MediaExposed - The Illuminati is Real

I'm not convinced of anything, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Wow... Star and Flagged.

It's unsettling to see, what are the chances?

Very conspicuous, because this X-men comic book precedes both attacks on the twin towers...Good eye, or third eye, whatever floats your boat lol

Crap. Guess we better keep an eye out for Apocalypse now. Prolly even Magneto.

Do you realise that there were no images on that other website because that there is copyrighted material?

reply to post by squidboy

It's unsettling to see, what are the chances?

Oh I don't know, pretty freaking high? I am going to say that an important structure in one of the world's most iconic cities is going to look pretty good demolished in a comic book. Like the White House in that movie with the aliens and stuff. Those towers were HUGE. It's no wonder they have been featured so many times. Doesn't make it a conspiracy.

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Give OP a break, this thread is OBVIOUSLY meant for educational purposes, not to monopolize off of a well known comic book...

Originally posted by sgspecial19
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Give OP a break, this thread is OBVIOUSLY meant for educational purposes, not to monopolize off of a well known comic book...

Im not the site owner so Im just pointing out the obvious.

2nd.

Edit: the only obvious thing is that he scanned a couple of pages off a comic book, Im not sure you are even allowed to do that, as stupid as that sounds.

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There are some that believe in polar flipping, and Magneto did flip the polls in the Ultimate Universe, thus ending the series for a great many fans. So, I suppose anything is possible.

But yeah, in all reality it's just coincidence, though an intriguing one. Seems to be alot of strange coincidences that surround that day (9/11), and as Kyria put it, "a jedi knows true coincidences are a rare thing".

Perhaps the evil that came from that day was in the human subconscious psyche w/e for decades before the act. It wouldn't be the first time people accidentally predicted tragedy.

Just a screw ball thought.

reply to post by InTheFlesh1980

comic book from 1985, issue #189.

Can you scan that with the date and Issue #?
That would be the part of the page you are not showing.

Edit: Oh wait. I found a site that has not only this story bur another about an issue of Spider Man. Scroll down to see the replies and the Xmen issue. There is a URL.

forum.prisonplanet.com...

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by InTheFlesh1980

 

comic book from 1985, issue #189.

Can you scan that with the date and Issue #?
That would be the part of the page you are not showing.

I gave the comic book back. Comic book collectors are a funny breed. It came out of a sealed plastic bag with its condition and other info written on a label on the bag.

Plus, I'm already getting jacked up for posting the image. If you really wanted to get the whole issue (and as a disclaimer I'm not condoning piracy) the bit torrent would be a good source.

As I mentioned in the OP, it was issue #189 and it was from 1985. Seeing the issue number and date will only give you that info, unless you are a numerologist and want more specifics.

It was published in Jan. of 85'

www.uncannyxmen.net...

A link to a synops of the issue from the fans at UncannyXmen.net. The cover is maginfable and the content the poster already put up is contained inside, as the description of the issue informs:

Rachel Summers, the newest X-Man, and New Mutant Amara Aquilla aka Magma are on a tour of New York, currently enjoying the view from the Statue of Liberty. Both of them are strangers in a strange land. Magma comes from a hidden civilization that still lives like in first century Rome, while Rachel is a refugee from a future that has gone horribly bad for mutants. In her mind’s eye, she sees lower Manhattan burning…

taken from the site.

marvel.com... - the whole comic for free, provided my marvel comics themselves.

Sooooooo, the world trade center being attacked in a comic book...means prediction?

or does it mean that the WTC in NY is a good place to have an attack because of what it represents? Somewhere along the line someone was going to put those buildings at the center of a terrorist plot. I bet you can find some crappy indie novel written by Joe Schmoe about terrorists attacking NY and find that the WTC is the target. It was an iconic building, and was also very important at the same time.

If someone attacks the Seattle Space needle anytime in the future, know that I predicted it. I can see the future! BOOK IT. You heard it here first folks.

Also, I call dibs on knowing that something bad happened at a Disneyland theme park somewhere in the world, another explosive incident will happen in Syria/Egypt/Iran/Israel, and someday Chicago will be the target for somekind of attack. You heard it here first folks! Just remember who told you about these events when they happen.

/logical fallacy.

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Did ya bother to read my OP?

I'm not convinced of anything, but it's interesting nonetheless.

The smarmiest people seem to have attention deficit disorder and can't manage to read a post without barfing their first thoughts on the screen.

reply to post by intrptr

Well, I found the cover... out there... on the *internet*. Here ya go, for what it's worth:

reply to post by InTheFlesh1980

Thanks for that cover. They're hot. Laser1oftheJedi brought this link.

marvel.com...

And in there... on page four... is a picture that is not cropped at the top. Theres a plane flying above the WTC. Check it out. I would snapshot it, but like you said...

Your link is cool too with the Illuminati game and stuff. Precognition or prescience? Or coincidence. Left to the viewer. Heres a pic that I keep around for "color of smoke" people. Its a steel mill that I highlighted a section of on the left. Back in the days when they still used wood and coal to fire steel melting furnaces. Look familiar?


That one is just coincidental.

Nice find, although there are many similar stories and eerie coincidences that foreshadow 9/11

Link

Todd McFarlane's Spider-man crossed over with Rob Liefeld's X-Force in 1991 in a team-up between the webslinger and Cable's mutant revolutionaries versus Black Tom Cassidy and Juggernaut at the World Trade Center. Explosives planted throughout one of the towers by the Irish mutant severely damaged its structure before Juggernaut rammed the wreckage down onto the mutant group and Spider-man.

en.wikipedia.org...

In 2001, The Coup released Party Music to widespread praise. However, in part because of distribution problems, sales of the album were low. The original album cover art depicted group members Pam the Funkstress and Riley standing in front of the twin towers of the World Trade Center as they are destroyed by huge explosions, and Riley is pushing the button on a guitar tuner. The cover art was finished in June 2001 and the album was scheduled to be released in mid-September.[2] However, in response to the uncanny similarity of the artwork with the September 11, 2001, attacks, the album release was held back until alternative cover art could be prepared.

www.ponderabout.com...

This Pakistan International Airlines ad appeared in Le Point, a French weekly news magazine, on March 19, 1979.

This page has many more examples

theinfounderground.com...

The most comprehensive source I've come across on this subject thus far is the following e-booklet, Imagining 9/11 There are so many examples it looks at from movies, books, comics, artwork, advertisements, etc. that foreshadowed the terrorist attacks in the years prior to 2001 that it generates more questions than it answers, especially about the nature and phenomenon of synchronicity and what it reveals about our universe (I suggest reading Michael Talbot's "The Holographic Universe" in this regard); the connection with ritual magic (since the theory of "correspondences" is significant to occult philosophy); and even the relationship between Hollywood and the "dark arts" or intelligence agencies (using the "entertainment" industry in a grand psy-op experiment of sorts to "prime" the American people). Curioser and curioser...

Ha, I have that one in my collection.
I bought it back then, read it, but never thought anything of it.
If someone knew and intentionally put that in there, it was only intended
for a select small audience. Comics would be a great place to hide
communications. The artist most likely wouldn't be in on it, but the editor
most likely would because he has to go over the art and instruct the
artist to redo anything that he doesn't think feels right. The writer may
also be suspect. Chris Claremont is a long time pro and has spun
some interesting tales. Tough call, but would make an interesting
connect the dots for someone on ATS.

I wanted to return to this thread to add a couple of things.

I think it is wonderful for a change that the communication on here lacked the usual 911 back and forth bicker about who's right? That is refreshing.

It seems to me that the idea that most of what has been interpreted as "foreknowledge" about the event can be attributed to other than prescience or precognition.

For part of their short lifetime the twin towers were the tallest buildings in the world in the most influential city, country on the planet. And if "the center of world trade", then one would expect that popularity to attract a lot of attention in film and media. Which it did.

Looking back we see some interesting parallels that now seem to foreshadow certain aspects of their demise. That has less to do with the paranormal I think than the search for revenue. I don't exclude all the examples, like the "Illuminati" card game for instance, but personally am really looking for examples of a more prophetic nature.

There is another major event that was preceded by a novel with uncanny accuracy: The man who foresaw the sinking of the Titanic comes to mind.

Too bad that modern organized religion has poisoned the events predicted in the bible relating to current events. What John saw in his visions while exiled to Patmos Island have got to be some of the most interesting. Many of course regard Nostradamus, The Delphi Oracle and others as credible "seers" of the future but as soon as you mention the bible everybody has spasms of one form or another.

Too bad. They miss out on some good first hand observer accounts of events in the time line of history. Try to imagine the difficulty of seeing modern times through the eyes of a man who lived 2000 years ago. Of course he used symbology in a desperate attempt to interpret his visions, which were of the events themselves.

With that in mind read Revelations Chptr 18 and compare it to 911 from that ancient perspective. The references to Babylon has fallen, has fallen (two times) or the angels coming down and lighting the ground with their glory. The ships that stood off and lamented the burning of the great city. Everyone covered with dust (?). These are but a few of the many direct observations made by a man who little understood the workings of things like modern aircraft, television, etc., but who witnessed them directly in his head all those many centuries ago.

Just my opinion. Look and see for yourself.