Rubio: "We Need To Prepare People" For War With Iran

Originally posted by dawnstar
they want war???

they can find the money to pay for their war!!!

money!! not loans!! not cuts to services and federal programs that actually help the people!!
let the rich give up their tax break, let our elected officials and thier underlings knock it off with their million dollar monthly vacatons!! find the money, then come talk to us about another war!

there's someone suggesting that the retirement age should be raised to 80, while 50 percent or so of the younger generation sits idled by this recesson/depression! they're not leaving home, they've been put on hold....till they can con us into another war!

tell ya what dear wackos in gov't.....
give me the money I have put into social security and I will happily leave this country with my sons in tow, and you can have all the wars for your buddies profits you want. [/quote


Bro, don't underestimate their accountants. There is alot of cash to be made in a syrian war.

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Bro, don't underestimate their accountants. There is alot of cash to be made in a syrian war.

by those who are protected from being taxed by the bushes tax cuts?? by defense contractors?? who will be making all this cash?? ten to one, it won't be the kids who are actually fight the war, or their parents who well, might be home holding fundraisers so they can send their kids money to buy the crap they need to stay alive but the brass is too "broke" to buy!!

no, they find the money first...without taxing the middle class, or just running the presses in hyperdrive and driving up inflation.....then they can come back and "prepare us"!
the sit there and cry they are broke, we're in debt, we don't have the money, to pay the troops, to take care of our seniors and on and on!! but then they go out and blow millions on vacations, dream up bigger and better wars, and in so many ways waste money at every turn!!

Well...now it's clear who Romney's VP running mate is going to be then

What the American people should demand, is that all of Israel's sluts, whores and soon to be whores.....be strapped to all of the bombs that will be flung at Iran come our next and final world war.

Rubio is just another Israeli whore. That's why he or (new Israeli slut) Chris Christie will be VP if Israel chooses Romney to be our next president, which is becoming more likely.

Romney will be president if Israel decides they want American Gentiles to go die as soon as this October in a war with Iran.

Obama will be president if Israel decides they want American Gentiles to die in 4 1/2 years

Originally posted by muse7
Well...now it's clear who Romney's VP running mate is going to be then

And it becomes obvious why the PTB need another rubber stamping clown in office, and, why a Ron Paul presidency is SO not wanted, it would not be conduscive to attacking the last country on earth to not have a rothschild central bank in it.
China and Russia will not stand by idly and let the US/NATO have total hegemony over the middle east.
They would not let a last gasp of a bankrupt empire blow out the last remaining INDEPENDENT sovereign state in the middle east.
The Chinese and Russians know the EU is broke, so is America, and it will be just a matter of time before Federal reserve notes won't be worth the paper the are printed on.
If 700trillion in derivatives start to unwind, The third world war would be a necessary hiccup in the process.
Right now, more so than ever, with so many backwards incompetents with their backs to the wall over so many different reasons, things are dangerous.

i cannot stand the endless wave of violence we are spreading around the world! i'm sick of it! when will it be enough? will it EVER be enough?? people don't have to die for this idiotic crap.

I don't think anyone wants another war particularily THIS one which will lead to a MAJOR regional war, maybe WWIII. it will, in one way or another, probably usher in some sort of NWO, which some will praise, and others will abhor. But that is neither here nor there at this moment.

Whether the US, or Isreal strikes, or whether they do not. I do beleive that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon, and I do beleive they intend to use them on isreal, the US, or possibly Europe.

I don't like everything the US government, the global corporations, the EU, or Isreal does or how they do it. We (I say we because I am an American) have done some pretty crappy things usually for profit, or misunderstanding the region/culture we are in. And we have faced crap back for it. Some of it deservedly so, some of it not. The above should all lead better. They can lead better, they have lead better. I think greed (for money, power, and control), while always present has become far to engrained.

BUT, all this Iran love is about to make me sick. The regime in Iran, are "12vers", they beleive they MUST wipe out the Jews/Isreal/the West/Christians in order for their Iman to return. They are religous zealouts in charge over there. They want sharia law over you, me, and everyone. I am not saying all Muslims want this, but the ones in charge do. I am a Christian, but I don't think I would want Pat Robinson as President. Same problem there, actually far worse so.

Do any of you remember the PLO and #e terror attacks all through the 60's/70's/80's? The US embassy in 79, the 72' Munich Olympics? The Airports hosed down with automatic weapons fire? The hijackings, the bombs, the hostages? I swear some here just think the US just came on the scene and attacked the poor muslims for no reason at all. We have been at defacto war with Iran since 79, and half the other Arabs since 48'. Why? Primarily because the UN, the UK, the US and to a lesser degree the rest of Europe, beleived the Jews should have a little strip of land to call their own. (And spare me the poor plight of the "palestinians", that's a farce on so many levels. I don't deny that the refugees have it bad, and that Isreal probably needs to handle that entirely differently but there is another thread on that right now)

I know alot of people here think the same thing about Christians. However; I don't personally know one Christian who thinks they, or their government can usher in the Return of Christ. In fact, things like global government, cashless society, etc are things that most Christians are against/yet they are prophocied to happen. I beleive it will happen, but not because a certain president is in power, or because we support a tiny Mid East Jewish state. But because God said He would return, because mankind can't overcome our own downfalls. But even if that doesn't happen, or even just put it aside for a moment, you have the 12vers in charge of Iran, support Syria, who WILL make sure their few happens, because they are "ordered" too in the Koran.

Even if we wait (and quite possibly we should), and don't strike Iran's nuclear capabilities, when they use them, the same war will happen that everyone fears, and just as many, if not many more, will die. And the same NWO will rise out of the ashes, that will likely subjegate everyone. Why? Becuase it's prophosied. But more importantly, it seems to be human nature. War is our natural state, at least it is of enough poeple, on both sides of the equation.

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a broke country that has proven to the world that we aren't worried about paying our debts isn't going to go far in a any war unless someone is stupid enough to lend us money!! maybe we should wait and get our own house in order first???

by the way, sharia law (or anything similar to it) wouldn't fly well in the american society, anyone trying to impose it would find themselves causing a mass revolt!! of course all the playing on our fears, and the "threat" from the radical muslims, has managed to enable the government to cut down our rights to the points where we can't even fly without having our dna scrambled or our bodies groped, but we still have our guns!! as long as we have our guns, there will be no sharia law!

if you want my opinion, our financial mess, and the debt we owe around the world, not to mention the instability that would occur in this country if the people's needs aren't met are a much bigger threat that anything that is happening half way around the world. we are gonna wake up one morning and find that china and the other holders of all this debt owns our homes, the businesses we work in, the highways we drive on and everything else! no bombs needed, takeover through economics! it's already becoming obvious that the debt we owe is being used to manipulate our leaders! and, if you want to see what our future holds, just look towards europe where the elected governments are being replaced by the bankers holding their debt!

like I said, if they want a war, they can find the money to pay for said war, a part of that debt that the warmongers keep griping about while they are knocking the social programs came from the two wars that we fought without any sacrifice under bush's watch and the bailouts that were needed to save the "too big to fails"!
FIND THE DANGED MONEY! kill the bush tax cuts, which the main part that they are fighting to save is the capital gains cut, which well doesn't prompt anyone to create jobs, it just encourages to gamble more on wall street! cut our all the stupid spending that the government does, the extravagant trips by the various agencies to hawaii or where ever else, the multiple vacations for the first lady, quit throwing a ton of money trying to protect american from the american citizens who are just trying to do their jobs and live their lives, while scrambling their dna and then expecting to work till 80 suffering the effects that thier radiation will probably do to them!
JUST FIND THE DANGED MONEY, OR SHUT UP ABOUT THE DANGED WARS!

all we are doing is turning our potentially productive youth into disabled broken dependent citizens missing arms, legs, and sound minds! and after they lose those limbs, we are telling them they don't qualify for disablity!
it's sickening, it's immoral, it's a matter of the rich and greedy wanting to take the rest of us as fools!

reply to post by dawnstar


I am not disagreeing really with anything you posted. You covered many issues that are VERY serious concerns to me, and the US.

That all being said, I think too many are white washing the Iran issue. It is a theat as are some of the radical islamists. Just because we have gone about the whole "war on terror" the wrong way ( and practically gone broke doing it) doesn't mean they aren't threats. And to many younger people seem to think the Islamists haven't been a problem prior to 2001, because they don't know the history. We have been dealing with Islamic extremism since the Barbary Pirates in the late 1700s to the Philipines in the 1910s with the big increase since the formation of Israel.

I think are whole response after 9/11 was wrong. It was driven too much by corporate interests. I can think of a ton of ways to have gone about it better then we did. And I don't nessicarily think we should go to war with Iran. BUT I don't have any problem with Israel doing what they need to do. And frankly, I don't expect us to go to "war" with Iran, but 2-3 day air campaign to knock out some of their capabilities I could support. Except that we have gotten into such a poor position that NOW you have know way of knowing if and or how that thing could spiral out of control.

I had no problem going to Afgahnistan, but we should have put enough troops in early to get Osama, AL-Q, and the Taliban and gotten out. We probably should have NEVER gone to Iraq, or if so, I can think of 2 direct ways to have done it that would have been quicker and cleaner. We should have sent SPEC OPS to operate (probaby from Navy ships to have little or no footprint in country) in Yemen and Somalia, hot beds of Al-Q. We should have put SERIOUS pressure on Saudi Arabia, including opening up US oil reserves to cover the potential loss of oil should the Saudi's not played ball. We should have worked directly with the Russians on combating islamic extremists, as they have struggled with it in Chechnya and all the "stans" on their southern border.

There were just several ways to do that better then we have.

And yes, find the money, I agree. War or no War, we need to get spending under control.

reply to post by Dreine


Conscientious objectors have not only refused to serve in the military but to pay taxes that support a war-making state. Bless their souls - the thousands who have silently borne the full fury of government upon them to make a statement for humanity.
I can only hope that people of such character still exist.
As much I might wish to be among them I am dependent on social security to survive.
My protest days are over and I feel like such a hypocrite for it.

ETA - I just noticed in the Shared Vision logo that the star of David is on top of the US flag.
At least they're honest about it.

reply to post by Asktheanimals


When I was a person of faith, I was very much pro-Israel.

With experience comes wisdom. For everyone that thinks Israel is our steadfast 'buddy', let me introduce you to the USS Liberty...

Wikipedia

USS Liberty Memorial

USS Liberty Cover Up

I have read the actual intercepted transcripts of the Israeli squadron and HQ from that day, and it is sickening to say the least. What sickens me even more is President Johnson's response to Robert Macnamara asking why the President kept grounding the nearest carrier air wing trying to support the Liberty...

LBJ: I don't care if every son of a bitch on that ship dies, we will not embarass an ally!"

If, as an American, that doesn't really piss you off, then I don't know what will.

Before I even think about listening to Israel again, I'd have to see a public, earnest apology and admittal of guilt from the Israeli government in regards to the Liberty.

I doubt that will ever happen.

reply to post by Dreine


Johnson sent 50,000 young Americans off to die in Vietnam.
One ship full was small change to him.
I have little doubt personally he was in on the Kennedy assassination.
Even my mother who never cursed in her life openly admitted to "strongly disliking Johnson."
She's never misjudged anyone's character yet.
If there is a Hell people are taking potshots at LBJ while beagles chew off his ears.

Eisenhower foresaw this. ''In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.''

You sheeple can spew your hatred toward the Democrats, Republicans, the U.S., the U.K., Israel, or the Arabs all you want. It's all about power, money, and control. The Plutocrats may come from different ethnic, racial, and religious backgrounds but their agenda is the same and they have us by the necks and most people are still asleep. Like the old saying goes - everybody wants to rule the world, and the only way to do it to through Global (hence "Globalism") means. The Illuminati know it well. And they're succeeding to a large degree - for now...

Americans are dead prepared for war with Iran all that's holding them is the fact Obama is up to this moment not man enough to have a false flag blaming Iran for it.

I hadn't seen this thread before - posting in order that it stays in my list of subscribed threads...

It seems that the fire is being stoked. I agree that there's a strong chance of a false flag, with Iran to blame, possibly of a scale approaching that of 9-11.

What frightens me is that some quarters suggest that all the apparent enemies are in fact tools of some nefarious globalist cabal, and are all being used as pieces in a game of chess/ risk. That should keep us awake at night.

here's a great example of military waste of money.....

online.wsj.com...

this is what I mean, they want wars, they want more wars...
they aren't paying for the wars they have now, they are borrowing out the arse for them!
they aren't taking care of the troops, they have them coming home without arms and legs, and then trying their hardest to deny them disability benefits even.....
but then they are building things like this??
they have no common sense, and till the find some, I would prefer they don't get themselves into any more wars, thank you!!