My run-in with Donald Nixon and the info he divulged

I consider this to be my 1st grand experience into conspiracy, I mean, I always knew the world wasn’t quite right, and would wade in the kiddie pool of conspiracy every now and again, but this was my first true encounter into things I had only previously read about. this one experience sealed the deal on my love for conspiracies. What’s weird is that I have always tried to tell people about this story but something would always stop or interrupt me and I’d never get to tell the whole story. I really, really, really wish I was a part of the ATS community back then...

This took place almost 15 years ago so most of the “information meat” I had stored in my brain has dried up and only a skeleton with jerky chew remains, but I presume that jerky will still be sweet and fulfilling to some.

This little story of mine takes place back in 1998. I was 19 at the time and you could best classify me as an anti-authority punk-rocker usually sporting blue hair or a tri-hawk and always wearing #ed-Up clothes, because I really could care less what people thought of me…. Around this time I was working at a glass shop as a glazier installing glass wind-wall and custom shower-unit glass in multi-million dollar homes and would also hand cut and polish custom wall-to-wall mirrors. At the same time, I was attending the local community college to get those required stupid studies out of the way.

So one day I get my first jury summons notice, and although I was anti-authority I viewed this as a way to get out the hell out of work for the day, so I decided to go. The notice told me to report to the Santa Ana Court House and this experience lasted approx. 4 to 5 hours.

Upon my arrival to the courthouse, I went through all the proper checkpoints, signed in and sat down, off to the side where nobody really was. About 15 minutes later this older guy in his late 50’s early 60’s (normal height with a bigger build sporting glasses and salt n pepper hair) comes walking over to the area where I was sitting and seriously sits right next to me (there were at least 30 other empty chairs around me).

I immediately started to laugh and said “what’s up man, what made you sit here?”
The gentleman replied “you look like the most down to earth person here”.
I laughed again (remember blue hair or mohawk) and said “whatever you say man, good call on that though, I love talking with older people, they usually have some of the best stories”.
I immediately went into some small talk, basically, telling him why I was there and who I was, I also remembering telling him that he looked kind of familiar…
He smirked and upon his turn for introductions, he said his name was Donald Nixon and…. I slammed the “emergency verbal brake” down and said “Wait, wait, wait you mean like as in the President Nixon?”
He Replied “Yes, he’s actually my Uncle.”
I said “Shut-up, your messing with me, let me see your license.” He let me see it and as plain as day it said Donald Nixon….
This is where it started to get interesting, because like I said, I love to be social and I’ll ask anyone anything… so I did just that, I said “Please tell me you have some sick government conspiracies”
He replied “Well, I don’t have any government ones, but I have seen and experience some pretty crazy things.”

Here is where he started to tell me, which for me at that time, was some crazy # and instead of me trying to remember his exact words I’m going to just sum up each significant topic I can recall into a paragraph for easier reading….


1st Topic – THE KSO
He begins to tell me this story about a group that own an Island off the coast of the Americas, and on this Island the group called themselves “The Knights of the Sacred Order” who had their own society far away from any government’s rule. There was a king and queen figure head, a religious figure head, security figurehead, and an executioner (there was a couple more figure heads, but I can’t recall them)… The way he presented it to me reminded me of a Monarchy system. Then he starts to talk a little more about the executioner and some of the deeds that were performed (if you want to know what I’m taking about look up 16th century execution : ). He gave so many details about this executioner and hardly any on the rest of the figure heads that I ended up by stopping him and saying “you’re the executioner huh?” He replied with that damned smirk.

MISC INFO – So regarding this I ended up searching his name and found he went to Cuba, so I’m presuming it was a Cuban Island that he spoke of in his story (weird seeing as how we still embargo them). According to some Articles he was also hanging around some shady folks.
He also had given me a business card in which top/center was an emblem or seal of some sort, under that KSO and under that his name….that’s it… anyway I had this card for over 10 years in my wallet until my wallet was stolen one night when I was smashed outa my gourd… it sucks cause that and one other thing was the only tangible evidence I had.

2nd Topic – The Serum
While talking about the KSO, he continues to say how no one on the Island has cancer, AIDS, the common cold or any other disease because of a serum they developed… and reaches into his pocket and pulls out a little bottle with a clear liquid in it. He said they developed it from lilacs (the flower) and did some special radiating/manipulation procedure to process it. The final product was this clear serum that smelled like lilacs. He said all you need to do is dab your finger and put it on your skin, it will absorb through your skin and stimulate your natural antibodies to become super antibodies that will seek out and destroy ALL disease. He said that this is actually a well-known thing in the upper echelon. He gave me the vial and told me that I could have it and told me that it will go bad.

MISC INFO – During this part of the discussion, I asked him why they didn’t produce this for all of society. He tried to explain to me that there are powers on this planet that would **** to keep this secret, and that there is too much money to be made from “medicines” covering up symptoms while creating new symptoms that need more “medicines” and so on.

I kept this vial of stuff in a drawer for about 8 years, in the hopes to meet someone to give it to for analyzing…. That was until I opened it up and smelled it again… this time the smell was so foul I almost puked…. So I said F***-It and threw it away. This was the only other tangible evidence I had.

3rd Topic – The Vehicle
Later on after we debated about the serum’s application for the masses (my whole approach was to motivate him to release this tech to the rest of the world – Big Fail), he says you know that’s not the only thing they suppress right? He then went in to how he had this Baja Bug with an engine that was somehow converted to take in these three gasses which combine and create a reaction for the engine to operate and had no exhaust venting what so ever. It was a completely closed system and produce power equal to a 3600cc….. if you know anything about baja bugs and dirt roads, you can easily $#!+ you panties with 3600cc’s
MISC INFO – I read an article where he spent some time down in the Mexican desert, which is where he said he was romping the bug.

So those were the 3 main topics that I have never forget, he even gave me a number to his buddy to get a job where I could get paid more and not have to work so hard….. Now I seriously almost called that number, but I’ve also seen plenty of ol’ skool gangster, secret society and government conspiracy movies that I decided it was probably in my best interest to not take favors from that sort of individual…

Interesting, His uncle was very much against bohemian grove "The faggiest goddamned thing" he called it, i have been trying to find organisations that are anti-freemasonry, the reference of the KSO if real, is something i am going to look into.

you certainly suffered "The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune", with this topic first time it was posted, thanks for posting it again.

Very interesting stuff here. Is the guy still alive I think it's time for you to call that number or just give it to me

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Thanks for that... I'm more prepared for the onslaught now...

As for the KSO (Knights of the Sacred Order), I've looked high and low for any reference to them.... but alas all I could find is something about a video/online game.

I would be stoked to get more information on them... if they even exist

because I won't lie, it was kinda hard to swallow those 3 stories... but they are like a plague, I still think about them to this day

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You do realize that Donald Nixon died on June 27, 1987 right?

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Actually I look him up every year....

He still lives in the area (no death record), found an email for him once, but never got a return...

Found his son and emailed him but never got a return...

Actually I compiled a file on the guy.... It's not gigz by any means... mostly articles mentioning him being a bad guy for hanging out with the cubans...

here's one of the articles I have

Source

Nixon's wife, Helaine, has told authorities that her husband was in Cuba trying to arrange a pharmaceutical test, according to congressional officials.

"She's unclear why he's being detained," said Ernie Ching, an Irvine lawyer representing the Nixons.

Ching said Helaine Nixon has had "intermittent communications" with her husband, who is being held under "house arrest" somewhere in Cuba.

"She is extremely concerned as to his well-being," Ching said. "For any individual to be detained in Cuba for three weeks, you would have every reason to be concerned."

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Opps sorry it's his son Donald Nixon Jr.

Donald Nixon is Richard Nixons brother.... I met the nephew

This guy



except he was older and had glasses

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Here's a reference article concerning Donald Nixon Jr.'s "Serum". It seems he was telling you the truth as he believed it to be and tried to have the Serum studied in Cuba to save on study costs.

Source: articles.latimes.com...

And here's the wiki version: en.wikipedia.org...

I haven't looked into the other topics he told you about yet, but will.

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Yeah I found that article and that's why I was able to "coincidentally verify" some of his info...

... in the article it mentions" citronella-based" where I remember him saying lilac.... and it smelled like lilac... not citronella (which I would picture mosquito repellant)


He told me they made tons of this stuff (in 1998) and treated people all over the world, that's why I kept asking him why he didn't release the info to the main stream public.

Yet the Article in 1995 states "the project to my knowledge has stopped and I have no knowledge that the Cubans will continue"

I will give this a once over again later. My original post in the other thread was off topic. I would like to spend some more time looking into the claims here...

Yeah, I saw the citronella description too, I don't believe it. It's standard for inventors or chemists or labs doing studies that think they have something big to redirect attention until the studies are complete and a patent is locked in.

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Interesting story you have there. Thanks for sharing. It also seems we are about the same age since I myself was 19 back in 1998. Good times....seems like yesterday, yet so much has changed since then.

Originally posted by FORMe2p00p0n
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He told me they made tons of this stuff (in 1998) and treated people all over the world, that's why I kept asking him why he didn't release the info to the main stream public.

Yet the Article in 1995 states "the project to my knowledge has stopped and I have no knowledge that the Cubans will continue"

He was referring to the Cuban study only. After the fiasco there he probably found a good separationist chemist in the U.S. that worked on some batches for him. I would imagine something like that would only have a shelf life in cool dark conditions of about a year, yet in 1998 he gave you a fresh vial, so yeah, he definitely had a chemist helping him. I wish him success, for all we know it's out there as an ingredient in some health lotion or creme at Whole Foods. I hope so anyway.

Yeah,

so I lost my original post to a 404?

Glad to see the thread back up

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It all ended for him with the legalities and definitions of health supplements vs. drugs (he evidently was going for drug status) and I truly believe we should leave it at this point on the serum discussion. Please note that it all comes down to having millions of expendable cash to jump through the hoops and make it available as a treatment with claims. I wish him the very best as it is clear he had good intentions. I hope that in the very near future the authorities in charge of what is available to the public eases the costs of testing natural substances as imho they are whole and complete and will work more in synch with our bodies.

So... I found something called the "Knights of the sacred monkey." or something along the lines of. Their opening quote on the webpage is:

We are the knights of the Sacred Order Order of the Golden Monkey.

Link

And they have Richard Nixon quoted on the main page as well:

"I would gladly sacrifice the life of Lyndon B. Johnson for the sake of every American." -Richard M. Nixon

Sounds like the nephew was a bit of a nut judging by this account:

Trixolan was linked in headlines to American fugitive Robert Lee Vesco and to Donald A. Nixon, President Richard Nixon's nephew. In the early 1980s Donald Nixon's wife contracted breast cancer and was treated with chemotherapy. In the search for a remedy for her cancer, he met with Dr. Stephen Herman, who claimed that Viroxan could boost the immune system and could get rid of many diseases, including cancer. Donald Nixon gave his wife Trixolan and claimed that it cured his wife's cancer and her arthritis.[1]

Nixon asked the Federal Government for $300 million to test the drug. When no funding was forthcoming, he formed a partnership with Vesco and other partners. Nixon was placed under house arrest in Cuba when he went to visit Vesco — who had fled to Cuba to avoid prosecution for securities fraud — for financing. [1]

Purportedly, Vesco introduced Nixon to Fidel Castro and his brother Raul, and Fidel set up four laboratories in Cuba with his nephew Antonio Fraga Castro as head of the project to develop the formula. They claim Trixolan suppresses cancer and cures AIDS, arthritis and the common cold - all of which are diseases related to immunity.

[2][citation needed]
Castro imprisoned Vesco in 1996, convicting him of fraud, saying he had defrauded a state-run biotechnology laboratory run by Castro's nephew in a scheme to "develop" TX.[3][4] Associated Press reported that he had been convicted of marketing Trixolan without government permission.[5] Vesco died of lung cancer in 2007.[6]

Source

It seems rather ironic the financier died of lung cancer...

For another angle there is a book here that highlights Vesco's ties to Nixon and the watergate scandal.


The wiki on Vesco is a worthwhile read as well:

After several years of high stakes investments and seedy credit dealings, Vesco was alleged guilty of securities fraud. He immediately fled the ensuing U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigation by living in a number of Central American and Caribbean countries that did not have extradition laws.[2] Charges emerged following the Watergate scandal that linked Vesco with illegal funding for a company owned by Donald A. Nixon (Richard Nixon's nephew).

Vesco was notorious throughout his life, attempting to buy a Caribbean island from Antigua in order to create an autonomous country and having a national law in Costa Rica made to protect him from extradition. A 2001 Slate.com article labeled Vesco "the undisputed king of the fugitive financiers."[3] After settling in Cuba in 1982, Vesco was charged with drug smuggling in 1989. In the 1990s he became involved with Donald Nixon again, and was indicted by the Cuban government for "fraud and illicit economic activity" and "acts prejudicial to the economic plans and contracts of the state" in 1996.[4]

Vesco was sentenced to 13 years in jail by Cuba. Five months after his death in November 2007 the New York Times reported he succumbed to lung cancer at a hospital in Havana, Cuba.[1]

Link

What a fascinating thread. I think we may have stumbled onto something unique here!

Well done OP!

Now all we need to do is try to establish the chemical makeup and process of the compound/serum and spread the word.

Again, fantastic thread. I'll be back soon.


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Originally posted by Monkeygod333
What a fascinating thread. I think we may have stumbled onto something unique here!

Well done OP!

Now all we need to do is try to establish the chemical makeup and process of the compound/serum and spread the word.

Again, fantastic thread. I'll be back soon.

 

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Or establish the fact that the person behind it stole 200 millions from a Swiss mutual fund company and told Castro he was working on a cure-all for protection while other governments wanted to prosecute him?

Idk...