Mercury in Vaccines. Is it a risk? – My calculations and my conclusions.

Part 1 ----

How much mercury is too much?

According to Parran et al, “Following exposure to thimerosal for 48 h, there was also a concentration-dependent decrease in cell viability either in the absence or presence of NGF (nerve growth factor) (Fig. 4), with EC50s of 4.35 ± 0.791 nM and 105 ± 11.0 nM, respectively. All EC50 values were significantly different from one another. In total, the cell viability data indicate that thimerosal cytotoxicity was dependent both on the concentration of thimerosal and the length of time the cells were exposed to this organic mercury compound.” In summary, 50% of the cells cultured without nerve growth factor died at 48 hours in presence of 4.35 nanoMolar thimerosal.

My conversion from 4.35 nanoMolar thimerosal to parts per billion mercury are as follows: (Note: Thimerosal is 49.6% ethylmercury by weight with molecular weight 404.81 grams/mole)

0.000000004 Moles/Liter Thimerosal x (404.81 grams Thimerosal per Mole) x (1 liter / 1000 milliliters) x 1,000,000,000 grams = 1.76 parts per billion mercury.

References:

toxsci.oxfordjournals.org...

Part 2 ----

The following study by Long et al looked at nerve cells exposed to even higher mercury levels and noted nerve cell destruction within only a few minutes of exposure:

According to the Long et al, when 10-7 Molar solution of mercury chloride was added to nerve cells in a culture “Within a few minutes of Hg exposure, not only did the growth cone
cease its motility but it also exhibited robust collapse and retraction .” A caveat was expressed that “The actual Hg concentration present in our neuronal cultures was indeed lower than 10 -7 M because of a dilution effect in the culture media. ”

My calculation to convert 10-7 Molar Mercury chloride to parts per billion mercury is as follows:

0.0000001 Moles/Liter mercury chloride x (200.59 grams mercury per mole + 35.45 + 35.45 grams of 2 chloride molecules per mole) x (1 liter / 1000 milliliter) x (1,000,000,000 gram) = 27 parts per billion mercury.

References:

migrated.ifokus.se...

journals.lww.com...

Part 3 ----

How much mercury did/do vaccines contain? In the 1990's, mercury in vaccines was more prevalent than today. According to the vactruth article:

“25,000 ppb mercury (equivalent to 50,000 ppb thimerosal) = Concentration of mercury in multi-dose, Hepatitis B vaccine vials, administered at birth from 1991-2001 in the U.S. and no other industrialized country.

50,000 ppb mercury (equivalent to 100,000 ppb thimerosal) = Concentration of mercury in multi-dose DTaP and Haemophilus B vaccine vials, administered 8 times in the 1990s to children at 2, 4, 6, 12 and 18 months of age.

vactruth.com...

Fortunately, thimerosal and mercury preservatives are less common today than in vaccines given in the 1990's and early 2000's as referred to by the Vactruth article. The following link shows the newer levels with the highest levels contained in the following vaccines:

Diptheria/tetanus produced by Aventis Pasteur, contains 25 mcg mercury/0.5ml dose (50,000 parts per billion)
Influenza, trade name Fluzone by Aventis Pasteur, Inc contains 25 mcg mercury/0.5 ml (50,000 ppb)
Influenza, trade name Fluvirin produced by Evans, 25 µg/0.5 ml dose (50,000 ppb)
Tetanus Toxoid produced by Aventis Pasteur Inc, 25 mcg/0.5 mL dose (50,000 ppb)
Meningococcal, trade name, Menomune A, C, AC and A/C/Y/W-135, produced by Aventis Pasteur, Inc, (multidose), 25 micrograms/0.5 ml dose (50,000 ppb)
Japanese Encephalitis, trade name JE-VAX, produced by BIKEN, 35 micrograms/1.0mL dose (35,700 ppb)

Reference: thimerosal-lawsuits.com...

Thimerosal-free vaccines are allowed to contain 250 to 600 parts per billion mercury content depending on the article referenced. (The FDA allows the use of “Thimerosal-free” labeling despite containing “low” concentrations of mercury.)

Reference:

www.ithacachiropractic.com...

vaxtruth.org...

Thank you for your post. I was just wondering, could you detail the explanation of the data? What does this mean, for example how is your data compared with a vaccine applied to a baby ?

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What is a “normal” mercury blood level? According to a 1999 CDC study, “The geometric mean total blood Hg concentration for all women aged 16--49 years and children aged 1--5 years was 1.2 ppb and 0.3 ppb, respectively; the 90th percentile of blood Hg for women and children was 6.2 ppb and 1.4 ppb, respectively (Table 1). Almost all inorganic Hg levels were undetectable; therefore, these measures indicate blood methylmercury levels.”

www.cdc.gov...

According to the following article which screened residents in Louisiana with suspected high mercury intake related to high fish intake, average mercury blood levels in these residents were 3.21 parts per billion, averaging about 2 parts per billion in those ages 7 or less and increasing to over 4 parts per billion in those above age 40. The highest levels reported in this study were 35 parts per billion.

www.atsdr.cdc.gov...

What is a safe blood level? Unfortunately blood levels do not correlate well to tissue levels and overall body mercury content. According to the following article, persons with blood levels of 5 parts per billion or more were advised to see their physicians.

www.timesunion.com...

According to the following article, the EPA has set a safety limit of 5.8 parts per billion in blood of childbearing age women:

www.seattlepi.com...

Part 5 ----

What is the U.S. Vaccination schedule? See:

www.cdc.gov...

www.healthychildren.org...

Part 6 ----

Would a vaccine cause blood levels above 5.8 parts per billion?
Let's look at a single 0.5 cc thimerosal preserved influenza vaccine containing 50,000 ppb mercury given to a toddler (22 lbs). The injection would contain 50,000 parts per billion mercury diluted in 0.5 cc. For my calculations, I referenced the following article showing that an adult would would be expected to have about 7% of his body mass as blood. See:

hypertextbook.com...

Although the percentage of the percentage of blood volume in a toddler may be slightly higher as a percentage than an adult, I will use the above formula for an estimate. In the above 22 lb (10 kg) toddler, the blood volume estimate is 10 kg * 0.07 = 0.7 kg or 700 cc blood volume. If we now dilute this single vaccine from 0.5 cc to 700 cc, it would be a 1:1400 dilution. Therefore, the blood mercury level after blood dilution would be 50,000 / 1400 = 35 parts per billion.

This blood level would be expected to fall over days and months as mercury is diluted into total body water, deposited in tissues and gradually excreted through feces or urine. Once diluted over the entire body water weight, we can estimate body concentration by dividing initial concentration (50,000 ppb) by total body water. According to the wikipedia, a toddler may have about 65% (interpolation) of body weight as water.

en.wikipedia.org...

Therefore, 0.65 * 10kg = 6.5 kg = 6500 cc total body water for our sample toddler. If we dilute the 0.5 cc of 50,000 ppb mercury vaccine into 6500cc, we get 50,000 ppb / (6500 /0.5) = 50,000 / 13000 = 3.84 parts per billion mercury concentration diluted in total body water after a single vaccination.

Part 7 ----

My conclusions:

A single influenza vaccination using a standard concentration of thimerosal (not thimerosal free) would be expected to produce initial mercury blood levels of 35 ppb (well above 5.8 parts per billion EPA blood safety limit) in our sample toddler. With time, the blood mercury would be expected to dilute into total body water (although mercury tends to preferentially deposit in the brain and kidneys). According to my calculations, using a sampe toddler, total body water mercury levels would reach 3.84 ppb which is over two times higher than the 1.7 parts per billion minimum tissue levels that, according to the Parran study, would be sufficient to decrease cell viability within 48 hours (in the presence of low levels of nerve growth factor). Given that mercury is excreted slowly and given that children are often receiving multiple vaccines within a narrow time frame, it seems likely that toxic mercury levels would be, at least periodically, reached during childhood using the typical thimerosal-containing vaccines. Persons/children of low body weight or whose brain tissues, through genetic or other factors, have low levels of nerve growth factor would be much more susceptible than those with higher levels. If multiple thimerosal-containing vaccines are given at or near the same time, the nerve cell destruction would be expected to occur at a faster rate.

Interesting thread, but unfortunately because I've been poisoned by mercury (I think) I can't make head nor tail of your conclusions, and the numbers are gobbledegook.

I've a few questions though.

How much more mercury is in a tooth filling compared to what's in a vaccine?

Would a chewed up and swallowed tooth filling/or two, have an adverse effect on a persons health in the long term? If yes what would be the effects?

Is it true that mercury is 500X more poisonous than lead?

Here's a silly one but I read it somewhere and always wondered if it were true. If a pond had a tooth filling's worth of mercury dropped into it, would/should be a warning to stay out of the water sign applied to it?

Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by wigit
Interesting thread, but unfortunately because I've been poisoned by mercury (I think) I can't make head nor tail of your conclusions, and the numbers are gobbledegook.

I've a few questions though.

How much more mercury is in a tooth filling compared to what's in a vaccine?

Would a chewed up and swallowed tooth filling/or two, have an adverse effect on a persons health in the long term? If yes what would be the effects?

Is it true that mercury is 500X more poisonous than lead?

Here's a silly one but I read it somewhere and always wondered if it were true. If a pond had a tooth filling's worth of mercury dropped into it, would/should be a warning to stay out of the water sign applied to it?

Thanks in advance.

I am not qualified to give medical advice. I did get good grades in biology and algebra classes, though.

I did run across a few websites talking about amalgam. Your question about the amount of mercury in a filling is interesting. Amalgam is about 50% mercury. Based on the weight of mercury, that would make amalgam contain about 5 grams per cubic centimeter of filling, per very rough calculations. If I had to guess about the average filling size, I'd say the amalgam volume would be about 1/10th of a cubic centimeter (or less). That would give about 0.6 grams of mercury = 600 milligrams = 600,000 micrograms. Since my calculations above showed that 25 micrograms injected would be high enough to produce toxic amounts in a 10 kg toddler, I would guess that 600,000 micrograms would have the potential to be hazardous. Fortunately, from what I have read, amalgam is not well absorbed without going through a chemical reaction that makes it water soluble. I think some acidic solutions have the potential to convert mercury into a water soluble form, but I'm going on vague memory of recent websites I visited.

Amongst all the discussion about vaccinations, I do find the Mercury component to be one of the most troubling due to the long term accumulate effects within the body and the interference on neurological function. The reasoning behind the inclusion of Mercury is to trigger an immune response and make you sick with the theory that the body will not recognise the other foreign matter, build the desired antibodies and the vaccination injection is basically useless without it.

I do give the body a lot of credit in its ability to identify and remove foreign matter like viruses, bacteria and other nasties. But when it comes to heavy metal poisoning there are limitations. Combined with a growing number of other sources of Mercury like tuna and some industrial processes I can understand the concern these issues raise.

The conspiracy theorist in me does consider that the agenda is to build up the populations resistance to heavy metals as they are becoming more widely used throughout our environment. The short term consequences are unfortunate, but for a more resistant population to this reality, it needs to be done. Then there is all the long term drug dependency to conditions like ADHD which helps keep the machine running in the mean time.

In looking into the mental side effect of Mercury poisoning there is a rising social trend and even established norms with things like: irrationality, fearfulness, exaggerated responses, emotional instability, indecision, tiredness, anxiety, restlessness, insomnia, depression and many others. Considering how Washington DC has been behaving lately it describes it quite accurately.

My concern about fillings is that I remember getting some at the dentist and them not being too careful about clearing up the spillovers with their little hoover thing and leaving lots of the -still soft- amalgum down the insides of my cheeks. I'd toddle home, or back to school, chewing the stuff or playing with it on my tongue, and I usually swallowed it after.

I've always had trouble concentrating, and I'm extremely indecisive. I also have a rare neurological disorder (or two), supposedly hereditary, but the conspiracy theorist in me makes me wonder if the symptoms came on around the same time as I chewed that amalgum, as I seem to remember them

RE:mercury poisoning

you might want to look into this, and chelation in general

how-to-cure-autism-and-the-time-bomb-of-mercury-poisoning
healthwyze.org...

Biological and Mercury Free Dentistry
www.educate-yourself.org...

Holistic Dentists Referral List from Dr. Hulda Clark
www.educate-yourself.org...

Do not have dental work done again until you have read Tooth Truth by Dr Frank Jerome from cover to cover. If you try to buy this book from amazon.com you will have to pay $300 for a used book, but if you simply call Dr Jerome's office (bottom of this page) you can get the book for $21.95 plus shipping. This is the most valuable book in print on the terrible health injustice inflicted on dental patients in this country by an out-of-touch, ignorant, and arrogant dental bureaucracy. Knowledge is power. When you have the facts, you are in the driver's seat. Get in the driver's seat and stay there.

Originally posted by wigit
My concern about fillings is that I remember getting some at the dentist and them not being too careful about clearing up the spillovers with their little hoover thing and leaving lots of the -still soft- amalgum down the insides of my cheeks. I'd toddle home, or back to school, chewing the stuff or playing with it on my tongue, and I usually swallowed it after.

I've always had trouble concentrating, and I'm extremely indecisive. I also have a rare neurological disorder (or two), supposedly hereditary, but the conspiracy theorist in me makes me wonder if the symptoms came on around the same time as I chewed that amalgum, as I seem to remember them

edit on 3-6-2012 by wigit because: (no reason given)

If you are trying to determine whether you were exposed to mercury as a child, it might be difficult since Mercury seems to be eliminated about 1 percent per day according to a website I ran across. From what I can guess about Mercury distribution, blood levels may roughly equilibrate with tissue levels after a period of days to months. I would guess that if your blood level is above the 1.7 parts per billion threshold by two blood tests, separated by a few weeks, then it may indicate tissue levels above the 1.7 ppb threshold which could cause damage. If you are currently having symptoms and have 2 blood tests with greater than 1.7 ppb threshold, I suppose you might have a case to bring to your doctor. Like I said earlier, I'm not qualified to give medical advice, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I do recall seeing numerous online lab companies that don't require doctors orders but I do not know whether they offer a mercury blood test. Good luck with your hunt for the culprit of your symptoms.

Originally posted by kwakakev
The reasoning behind the inclusion of Mercury is to trigger an immune response and make you sick with the theory that the body will not recognise the other foreign matter, build the desired antibodies and the vaccination injection is basically useless without it.

The purpose of mercury in the few vaccines that actually contain it is to be a preservative, an antiseptic. It kills bacteria and fungi. It is not an adjuvant. Most vaccines do not contain mercury, and they are not "basically useless."

reply to post by FurvusRexCaeli


Are you for real

Out of all the different preservatives we have available they pick something like mercury? If there is no conspiracy behind this then man is really one stupid ape. I have not worked on vaccines, but talked with people on these boards that have and just relaying the reason for the mercury that at least holds at little, if still quite stupid reason.

Originally posted by kwakakev
reply to post by FurvusRexCaeli

 

Are you for real

Out of all the different preservatives we have available they pick something like mercury?

If you can think of a better one, you will be a rich man by this time tomorrow.

Originally posted by wigit
Would a chewed up and swallowed tooth filling/or two, have an adverse effect on a persons health in the long term? If yes what would be the effects?

Consuming mercury orally is completely different and cannot be compared to having it injected directly through the blood-brain barrier. Only a certainly percentage of what is consumed through the mouth will be absorbed in the blood, whereas when we bypass our natural protection mechanisms and have mercury injected directly through the skin; it's like dropping a goldfish into a small bowl of piranhas. In nature the goldfish has a fair chance of escaping, but in a small bowl it's defense mechanisms can only briefly delay it's destruction. If humans accidentally eat a substance that will damage our bodies if it ends up in the blood, we have defense mechanisms which may or may be able to prevent it from entering the blood.

If there were at least half a good reason to inject Mercury, that would be something, but it's just a preservative i.e. increasing shelflife. Vaccines with Mercury are for the Pigs, we are the Pigs, the Elite and Royal's probably don't receive vaccines at all, but if they did they'd get fresh vaccines without toxic metals and carcinogenic substances.

Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli

Originally posted by kwakakev
reply to post by FurvusRexCaeli

 

Are you for real

Out of all the different preservatives we have available they pick something like mercury?

If you can think of a better one, you will be a rich man by this time tomorrow.

They don't normally use Mercury anymore, too many people stopped receiving them, you now find a lot of them with another neurotoxic metal; Aluminum. Being injected with this poison is a lot worse than catching Chicken Pox, Mumps or Measles.